Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Election

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Re: Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Elec

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:55 am

Xeni Jardin


That time I asked Glenn Greenwald on that board meeting conference call if Wikileaks’ Julian Assange was getting his money from Vladimir Putin with his help, and no one said anything and I never got a reply.


And then I quit.

It’s all we have. The footprint we leave behind.
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Michael Cohen’s Testimony Is Really About Impeachment

Forget the racism and bluster and vanity. This is about high crimes and misdemeanors.


Michael Cohen’s prepared statement this morning will make the case for impeachment on three fronts.

(1) Cohen is bringing to his congressional testimony documentation shoring up his claim that Donald Trump committed a felony while in office—a “cover-up” of “illegal hush money” payments to Stephanie Clifford that has sent Cohen himself to jail for three years. The documentation consists of a cancelled check for $35,000 from Trump’s personal bank account written while he was president of the United States “as part of a criminal scheme to violate campaign finance laws.”

(2) Cohen will testify that Trump lied to the American public during and after the presidential campaign about his contacts with Russia; in particular, his efforts to secure a multi-million dollar Trump Tower deal in Moscow. These lies were designed to cover up a blatant conflict of interest for someone seeking the highest office in the United States of America. And Cohen has publicly revealed for the first time that Trump’s lawyers “reviewed and edited” Cohen’s statement to Congress “about the timing of the Moscow negotiations” before Cohen gave it—a statement that gave rise to Cohen’s indictment and plea of guilty for lying to Congress.

Which means that Trump’s lawyers allegedly participated and sanctioned Cohen’s commission of a federal felony that defrauded the American people via their representatives in Congress.

(3) Cohen will testify that Trump knew through Roger Stone that Wikileaks was going to make public dumps of emails that happened to be stolen from the campaign of his rival for the presidency, Hillary Clinton. Cohen claims to know this because Trump put Roger Stone on speakerphone for purposes of giving Trump the heads-up that this was going to happen. “[W]ouldn’t that be great,” Trump allegedly quipped. Stone is now under indictment for obstruction of justice, false statements, and witness tampering in connection with the Wikileaks collusion.

Put aside the hearsay about racism and Trump’s vanity. The real meat of Cohen’s testimony is going to be the predicate it lays for impeaching the president of the United States.
https://thebulwark.com/michael-cohens-t ... peachment/


PERSONAL VIETNAM

Michael Cohen Is Trump’s Worst Nightmare: A Loser With Nothing to Lose

The ‘fixer’ is a perfect exemplar of Trump’s world: Corrupt and corrupting, venal and vicious, he is the true picture of the ‘best people’ with whom Trump surrounds himself.
Rick Wilson
02.26.19 10:24 PM ET
OPINION
Photo Illustration by Lyne Lucien/The Daily Beast/Photos from Getty
Wednesday morning, the nation will be riveted to must-see political TV as a liar, lout, thug, bully, scumbag, and admitted criminal takes the stand before the House Oversight Committee to testify about his former client and our liar, lout, thug, bully, scumbag, and criminal in chief, who will be tuning in from Vietnam.

As the president’s personal attorney for over a decade, the liar has been a man mixed up in dozens of projects and schemes, not to mention the lout’s roles as a senior member of the president’s campaign and the former finance director of the Republican National Committee. The thug served as the in-the-room guy, who’s accumulated years of memories and documents detailing Donald Trump’s crass and criminal actions.

After he spills his guts to Congress, that bully is going to prison because the Southern District of New York checked his arrogance and criminality hard, using just a minuscule fraction of the evidence gathered in their searches of the scumbag’s home, hotel, office, car, and bodily cavities to induce him to both cooperate and accept a jail term. The admitted criminal started talking because he knew he’d be on the hook for the boss’ crimes if he didn’t.

The thug was one of Donald Trump’s most intimate advisers and implementers, a man trusted with the most unholy of unholies; the payouts, gag orders, and fetid details of his rotating stable of girlfriends, dalliances, hookups, and whatever the hell Trump and his pedophile pal Jeffrey Epstein had been up to. This fixer dealt with the sticky aspects of Trump’s wandering pecker directly with the National Enquirer’s aptly named David Pecker, and the Stormy Daniels story is about to come back into the national consciousness, bigly.

That man is Michael Cohen, and he knows where the bodies are buried. Forty years after Trump’s personal Vietnam during the Studio 54 days, he’s now actually there, and Michael Cohen is his Captain Willard, freaked out, but seeing the truth at last, headed upriver to kill his commander.


Cohen knows many of the secrets that comprise the Horcruxes of Donald Voldemort: Trump’s taxes; his shoddy, shady business practices; the extent of Trump’s personal depravity and sexual depredations against many, many women. He knows about business practices they didn’t show on the phony set of Apprentice. He knows all about the roles of Ivanka and Don Jr. and Slow Eric in the business.

He will also reportedly testify that Donald Trump is a flaming racist, for those of you still living in a pre-Charlottesville bubble.

Cohen Prepared to Say Who Signed His ‘Cover-Up’ Checks
Cohen is a man with nothing to lose and the benefit of painful hindsight that his role as Trump’s attorney didn’t shield him from the corruption and collapse of anyone who works for Trump.


Cohen will not be asked to testify about candidate Trump’s lust for an eponymous tower project in Moscow. Nor will be he asked about Trump’s ludicrously amateur efforts to bribe Russian President Vladimir Putin with a penthouse there, or about any quid pro quo between the Trump campaign, the Trump Organization, and their friends in Moscow. That’s not relief for Trump, by the way; the president knows Cohen has already given all that up to Mueller and company.

All this is why the Trump world is in a flaming panic over Cohen’s testimony tomorrow. When Donald Trump Jr.—a man who increasingly looks like a 1980s B-movie villain, all shiny suits and a surfeit of hair product—took to Fox & Friends this week, he was immediately on this dumb message, about how the probe of his pop is “as political as it gets,” as it’s the “dream” of those mean old feds to “try to find something to get Trump.”

Of course, Trump and his allies are taking precisely the wrong approach. Calling Cohen names, or having pals in Congress direct mobster threats at the witness, doesn’t discredit him. It makes him more credible because the things he’s saying are things that the Southern District and Mueller have matched up with more legitimate sources. The feds don’t just have Cohen. They have Allen Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s accountant and CFO.

As in all mob cases from time immemorial, once you take out the consigliere, then you take out the accountant, and the whole house of cards tumbles down.

Trump’s media allies on Fox News and elsewhere have been in overdrive the last few days, shocked that anyone would believe a serial liar like Cohen. For them, truth and character suddenly matter, and any word from Cohen’s mouth is the fruit of the most poisonous tree. Like aides to Stalin being airbrushed out of the picture after being disappeared to the gulag, Cohen’s unpersoning is proceeding apace.

Tuesday afternoon, Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Trump’s Colon) launched a Twitter attack on Cohen in the dumbest effort at witness intimidation in modern memory. If you didn’t think this came directly from Trump, I have some beachfront condos in North Korea to sell you.

In a meaningful way, it doesn’t matter what the Trumps say about Cohen, or he says about the Trumps. What matters is that Cohen’s testimony—public, live, and with few restrictions—will open up new, on-the-record venues for investigation, exploration, and, let’s be honest, prosecution.

The president of the United States has been a busy boy obstructing justice (and capital-J Justice) since the moment his corrupt ass plopped down behind the Resolute Desk, and Cohen will reportedly testify to that effect. The record of the perverse, pathetic man the Republican Party has fallen behind is coming out home to roost in a very, very public way. The party members who stood by his side during the current crisis over the fakemergency at the border and through every other excess, illegality, and affront to the Constitution, conservatism, and American values will stick with him now. Hell, the iceberg already put a hole in the ship. Might as well have a cigar and a listen to the band play “Proud to be an American” one last time.

Is Michael Cohen a saint? Of course not. Michael Cohen is a perfect exemplar of Trump’s world: corrupt and corrupting, venal and vicious. This is the true picture of the “best people” with whom “billionaire” Donald Trump has always surrounded himself. Michael Cohen isn’t an outlier in Trump world; he’s definitional.

The explosion on the Trump right over Cohen is just getting started, and you can expect any and every piece of Cohen’s personal dirt to be exposed in the coming days. Cohen has hit the hardest of bottoms because of the work he did with and for Trump.

For Cohen, testifying will be hard and the attacks tough to take, but for what is probably the first time in his adult life, he’ll be serving the cause of justice rather than subverting it for Donald Trump. The strange new terrain of speaking the truth, admitting to guilt, and revealing the low character and unpleasant history of Trump has to have at least a tiny edge of satisfaction.

Michael Cohen rose to the pinnacle of Trump’s enterprise, and plunged, knife firmly in his back, to the depths. Today, he has a new role as one of the greatest dangers in Donald Trump’s constellation of ill-starred political and legal fortunes.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-c ... itter_page
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Re: Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Elec

Postby RocketMan » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:15 pm

Hot for Russia... Everyone's hot for Russia.
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Re: Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Elec

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:17 pm

omg not tracey again ...he is lying or he just doesn't understand

or he is not up to speed


I'm a bit busy right now but the evidence is in this thread I'll get back to you when I get a chance to search


BTW

WE ARE NOT EVEN ON THE RUSSIAN STUFF :lol:
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Re: Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Elec

Postby RocketMan » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:25 pm

Bernie blackballing Wasserman-Schultz is REALLY thirsty for COLLUSION info...

Wasserman-Schultz asks Cohen if, given what he knows of Donald Trump: “Would [Trump] have the potential to collude with a foreign power to win the president at all costs?

Cohen: “Yes.”

Given the litany of connections between Trump campaign staff and Russia, Wasserman-Schultz says: “Is it likely” Trump had had every intent of working with Russia to win the election “at all costs”?

Cohen says he would rather not answer, other government branches are dealing with that question.
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Re: Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Elec

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:26 pm

STOLEN
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Re: Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Elec

Postby RocketMan » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:29 pm

Someone said it pretty well on Twitter...

"Debbie Wasserman Shultz asking ANYONE about election-rigging is the type of cringe irony that I LIVE FOR.."
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Re: Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Elec

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:33 pm

OH WHEN DID WS COMMIT TREASON?

silly me I thought this was about the crimes of trump and company


start a thread on WS
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Re: Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Elec

Postby RocketMan » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:34 pm

Probably not, just rigged an election.
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Re: Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Elec

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:34 pm

yea by trump

WS is not part of a international crime family



HOLY JESUS F*CK! Your Michael Cohen Liveblog!

https://www.wonkette.com/matt-gaetz-isn ... -testifies
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Re: Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Elec

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:03 pm

So Cohen is implicating Trump in the following:

1) Bank fraud

2) Tax fraud

3) Campaign finance felonies


Rouda: Where would we find business records on convicted Russian mobster Sater? Trump Org?

Cohen describes where to find them.

Rouda: When you say in possession of Trump Org, where?

Cohen: In a box offsite, storage facility.



Rouda: DId convicted Russian mobster pay rent for his office (on 26th floor of Trump Tower)

Cohen: No.

Rouda: did Trump lie under oath?

Cohen: Yes.


Rouda; Trump testified under oath, abt Sater, isnt' true Trump knew Sater when he made that statement?

Cohen: Yes. Sater had office on 26th floor, Mr. Trump's floor, his office when he left became my office.



BIG: Cohen says SDNY is looking at "other" illegal acts by President Trump that haven't been raised publicly yet.


GOP Rep. Comer: "You're a pathological liar..."

Cohen: "Are you talking about me or the president?"


Dem Rep. Cooper: What was turning point for you?

Cohen: Helsinki, Charlottesville, watching daily destruction of our civility to each other, putting up ridiculous things like this [points to "liar liar pants on fire" poster produced by the GOP]...I did that for 10 years.


Dem Rep. Rouda asks re "convicted Russian mobster" Felix Sater, whom Trump denied being familiar with.

Cohen confirms Trump knew Sater for years, Sater had an office on the same floor as Trump in Trump Tower, and Sater had business cards saying he was an advisor to Trump.

Cohen says documentation of Sater's involvement would be in the possession of the Trump Org and cc'd to "Bayrock" (Sater's org).

Rouda repeats "convicted Russian mobster


FLAG: Michael Cohen says that he cannot testify about his last conversation with Trump because it is being investigated by the Southern District of New York. Cohen says that he knows about more illegal acts by the president, says that those are part of the investigation.



This was just mentioned in Michael Cohen testimony


Ex-Trump Associate Felix Sater Draws Scrutiny in Bank Suit - Kazakh BTA Bank is suing Mukhtar Ablyazov & Khrapunov family over $4 bil in stolen funds. Sater a key witness who worked w/Khrapunovs was paid $2.5 mil by BTA thru 3rdy party to his co Litco LLC

.....................

THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THIS PRESIDENT
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Re: Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Elec

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:50 pm

RocketMan » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:15 am wrote:
bullshit.tiff



Hot for Russia... Everyone's hot for Russia.



seemslikeadream » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:20 pm wrote:

southpaw

In a notice given to Roger Stone, the government disclosed that evidence relevant to his case was “derived from search warrants executed” in the investigation that led to the GRU indictment. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... Other.html
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Stone has filed an objection to the designation of the GRU indictment as a related case, which is how we have this doc. His atty points out, reasonably, that he hasn’t been charged with hacking or conspiring w GRU, just lying and obstructing/witness tampering. Watch this space.
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/ ... 1830536192



seemslikeadream » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:35 pm wrote:
Brad Heath




Mueller's office says in a new court filing that investigators executed search warrants on accounts used to "facilitate the transfer of stolen documents for release" and several included communications with Roger Stone.

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Mueller's office says the charges against Roger Stone "are part of the same alleged criminal event or transaction" as the ones it filed against Russian intelligence officers for hacking Democratic political organizations.

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https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/10 ... 3952496640


Special counsel prosecutors say they have communications of Stone with WikiLeaks


Washington (CNN)Prosecutors said for the first time that they have evidence of Roger Stone communicating with WikiLeaks, according to a new court filing from special counsel prosecutors.

During its investigation of the Russian hack of the Democrats, "the government obtained and executed dozens of search warrants on various accounts used to facilitate the transfer of stolen documents for release, as well as to discuss the timing and promotion of their release," the prosecutors wrote Friday to a federal judge.

"Several of those search warrants were executed on accounts that contained Stone's communications with Guccifer 2.0 and with Organization 1," which is WikiLeaks.

Previously, the prosecutors had only outlined how Stone attempted to get in touch with WikiLeaks' Julian Assange through intermediaries. Stone sought to learn about what the hackers had stolen from the Democratic Party and how he hoped for its release so it could help Donald Trump's campaign, prosecutors have said.

The new filing provided no further details on what was contained in the communications.

There is one known exchange of messages between WikiLeaks and Stone. In February 2018, the Atlantic reported the Stone exchanged direct messages via Twitter with the WikiLeaks account in which Stone was asked to stop associating himself with the site. Both denied they were in contact about the release of Clinton emails.
The prosecutors have not yet explained in full the extent to which Stone actually reached WikiLeaks or Assange, or levied public charges against them for their role in the distribution of the hacked data.

Friday's filing is the strongest detail yet provided by the prosecutors that Stone and WikiLeaks were in touch.

Prosecutors stated that in obtaining the accounts, they found communications between Stone and WikiLeaks, which is only described as Organization 1, as well as Guccifer 2.0 which is the alias used by Russian intelligence to disseminate the documents.

Stone and his legal team will have access to these search warrants as they review evidence in the case to prepare for his trial. He has pleaded not guilty to charges of witness tampering, obstruction of justice and lying.

Case will not be reassigned


Judge Amy Berman Jackson on Friday denied Stone's attempt to get a new judge in his case, by alleging that his charges are unrelated to a case about the Russian hack of the Democrats. Prosecutors say they are indeed related, partly because they both hinge on some of the same search warrants.

Gag order


Jackson also placed a gag order on Stone and attorneys involved in his criminal case, though Stone's ability to speak publicly isn't completely restricted.

Lawyers "for the parties and the witnesses must refrain from making statements to the media or in public settings that pose a substantial likelihood of material prejudice to this case," Jackson wrote.

They, their clients and even Stone are also not allowed to speak in and around the courthouse.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/politics ... index.html



southpaw

This is the filing I've been waiting for today. The SCO says evidence in Roger Stone's case was found in accounts that were searched for the GRU case, in which 11 Russian military officers were charged with a conspiracy to interfere in the election.

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In other words, following the evidence from the Russian side of the investigation led the Special Counsel's Office to Roger Stone. Consider the implications of that.


For another, it includes the first SCO confirmation of @NatashaBertrand's report that Stone communicated directly with Assange. It also firmly ties Stone to paragraph 44 of the Netyshko indictment, which quoted his DMs with Guccifer 2.0 but didn't name him.

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/ ... 6222486528

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Re: Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Elec

Postby RocketMan » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:36 pm

I have no doubt that Trump has engaged in illegalities during the campaign and during his presidency and as I've said, I believe he has been impeachable since took office.

What I don't understand is why it is so crucial to paint Trump as a stooge of a foreign power. I just don't get it. Russia has fingers in many pies, no doubt about that. So do other major countries. Turkey apparently had several Congresspeople in their pocket years ago. This mania about TRUMP RUSSIA COLLUSION is just... weird. Trump has undoubtedly engaged in some scam or another with Russian parties, hell he may have even pissed on Russian prostitutes. But still. Weird.

Every US president goes to hold hands with Saudi royalty. No one cries collusion about that.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:40 pm

stooge?

that's insane


when did I EVER say that?

far from a stooge ....far far from it ...trump KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING ...laundering Russia money for his own gain ....NO WAY IS trump A STOOGE

I have been posting about Saudi's forever ...I guess you didn't notice...I'll get back top you with all the links


why do you and BS keep putting words in my mouth and making up reasons why I post what I post
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Postby RocketMan » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:46 pm

Trump is close to debilitated by his personal pathologies, psychological and physical, anyway. I'm amazed he still can function. And grift & crimes, absolutely. He's been in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution since day 1. Carry on, you're clearly gonna document, no matter what anyone says.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:48 pm

well that's a small crowd ...you BS Mac and Jack....


Jeff made no rule about c/p......he never told me not to do it as a matter of fact he knew EXACTLY how I posted when he invited me here and never said a thing about how I posted when he was still here


I am going to post the way I have posted here for 14 years after coming here by Jeff's invitation

it would seem to me you would have understood this by now....but apparently you would rather spend half your time here complaining about something I am perfectly within my right to do ...over and over and over again....instead of just posting what you think is important to you...or maybe that is exactly what you are doing
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