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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:22 am

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Fox & Friends Idiot: OK So, Notre Dame Fire Bad, But Ratings Good!

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Yesterday 9:21amFiled to: NOTRE DAME

Fox & Friends Hosts Steve Doocy, Ainsley Earhardt, and Brian Kilmeade
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The Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris burned for 12 hours yesterday before some 400 firefighters were able to put out the blaze. French billionaires and companies have already pledged millions to the church’s recovery. But what about the people covering news of the fire, ehh?? Ain’t this story doing GANGBUSTER ratings for us?!!

Leave it to Fox & Friends idiot Brian Kilmeade to make it about the real heroes of this fire, not the preservers of history and fighters of fire, but us—the news people who are tellin’ you all about it
“It’s just amazing when you have one thing happen in one famous city and the whole world watches and has a stake in it,” Kilmeade said on the show today. “And probably, I imagine, the ratings around the world went through the roof because everyone was talking about it.”

What a Trumpy thing to say about a massive fire that injured at least one firefighter and, besides having so far been nonlethal, was a devastating blow to Paris and people around the world who care about history. But can you even imagine the ratings! They must have been amazing! Of course, what else could we have expected from the network that put this guy on the air.
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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

Postby Cordelia » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:44 am

Almost two days... what's taking so long?

Pledges Reach Almost $1 Billion To Rebuild Paris' Notre Dame Cathedral

http://time.com/5571518/notre-dame-donations/



Notre Dame is one of the world’s great treasures, and we’re thinking of the people of France in your time of grief. It’s in our nature to mourn when we see history lost – but it’s also in our nature to rebuild for tomorrow, as strong as we can.

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JFC...... .Is he helping to restore countless bombing sites destroyed during his ministrations to the endless wars? But relieved the Obama family got to view Notre Dame's treasures while all was intact. :roll:
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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:22 am

art is worth saving or is it just some art is just less in value because of where it is? What if had been the Le Louvre, Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, State Hermitage, St. Petersburg, Smithsonian Institution? Anyone that would contribute to one of those tragedies, would they be nailed to the cross for that?


Brazil National Museum: as much as 90% of collection destroyed in fire
Building was not insured, the museum’s deputy director said, but some pieces survived including the Bendegó meteorite
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... ot-insured


Around 2,000 Artifacts Have Been Saved From the Ruins of Brazil’s National Museum Fire
Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... 0DYCFPU.99
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Here's How You Can Help Document Rio's National Museum Collections After The Catastrophic Fire
But Brazil is not the only country using the arts as a political bargaining chip. For the past two years, the Trump administration's annual budget has called for decimating the funding to the United States's arts organizations, public media, and museums. As the Washington Post wrote in February, "Trump's proposal calls for drastically reducing the funding to begin closing the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities, the Institute of Museum and Library Services, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting." Trump proposed that those four agencies should split just $109 million for 2019 - down over $900 million dollars - and shut down soon after.
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Notre-Dame blaze: Flying water tankers 'could lead to collapse'
16/04/2019 - 00:26

Ludovic Marin, AFP | Aerial water tankers will not be used in fight against Notre-Dame fire. The weight of the water could cause the 12th centure structure to collapse, explained French civil protection service on Monday night.
US President Donald Trump on Monday called the blaze engulfing Notre-Dame cathedral in Paris "horrible" and suggested the deployment of flying water tankers, before being told by French authorities that this wouldn't work.

"So horrible to watch the massive fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out. Must act quickly!" Trump tweeted.

Not an option

Following Trump's tweet, the French civil protection service responded that the one thing it was not contemplating was using aerial tankers, which dump enormously heavy loads of water, usually on wildfires.

"Hundreds of firemen of the Paris Fire Brigade are doing everything they can to bring the terrible #NotreDame fire under control," the civil protection service said in a statement.


"All means are being used, except for water-bombing aircraft which, if used, could lead to the collapse of the entire structure of the cathedral."

Later, while in Minnesota for a speech on the economy, Trump called the fire "one of the true catastrophes" and said "the television images he'd watched during his flight were "a terrible sight to behold."

"It was burning at a level you rarely see a fire burn," he told the crowd.

"It's a part of our culture, it's a part of our lives."

The fire spread rapidly through a major portion of the magnificent Gothic cathedral in the heart of Paris, causing a spire to collapse and raising fears for the building.

The cause of the blaze was not immediately confirmed, but the cathedral had been undergoing intense restoration work.
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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

Postby Cordelia » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:41 am

seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:22 pm wrote:art is worth saving or is it just some art is just less in value because of where it is? What if had been the Le Louvre, Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, State Hermitage, St. Petersburg, Smithsonian Institution?


Of course all art is worth saving. But this campaign by the richest in the world is a clear fuck-you to the devastation being inflicted on others around the world.
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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:42 am

that happens every single day...before this fire

the contributions to the black churches soared because of the Notre Dame fire. 1 million dollars in 24 hrs

it is now
$1,221,843 of $1.8M goal

Less than 24 hours ago we were at $159k

there are plenty of rich people that give nothing to a tragedy nothing to humanity, pay no taxes, hide their wealth in off shore accounts it would seem to me they are the ones to be more upset at


like I said I'd tell the billionaires to give their money to the Yemen people but they won't listen to me

president bush/cheney killed a lot of people I wonder how much they gave to the people of Iraq and Afghanistan to rebuild?

how much money they gave to the families of the 20 per day vets that kill themselves because of their war, I guess we all have rich people we hate
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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

Postby Cordelia » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:31 pm

Wonder...should the Sackler Family pledge a donation, will Notre Dame reject it, as have other art institutions and museums?
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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:33 pm

should they reject a donation for the bush family....they've killed a whole lot of people also

and spent a whole lot of money doing it $2.4 trillion

going back I am not the one that started this "who should give and who shouldn't" and what destruction is worthy of rebuilding

people are always going to do what they want with their fortunes some hide it some do good with it and some just build great big buildings. put their names on them and put brown immigrant children in cages. I wonder how much that guy gave to charity, never mind he just decided to keep the Yemen war going despite the congress wishes. Maybe he could ask his BFF Saudi friend to help out


bush kills 20 vets a day

we all have rich people and presidents we do not like I understand that
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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

Postby RocketMan » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:13 pm

It really is a strange and disheartening spectacle to see a building get more love and empathy than entire countries recently destroyed by, among others, France. Libyans must feel so much sympathy for the stricken French.
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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:23 pm

this is how the present president of the Untied States of America SYMPATHY for people of Yemen. I guess it is a good thing he didn't give any money to Notre Dame

Trump vetoes Yemen War Powers Resolution, his 2nd veto since taking office
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics ... index.html



it is really disheartening


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Postby RocketMan » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:26 pm

You really must not have any idea how you come off, do you.
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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:27 pm

to you? yes, most definitely


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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

Postby Karmamatterz » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:33 pm

Anyone that would contribute to one of those tragedies, would they be nailed to the cross for that?


Yes, because those without money seem to always want to tell those with money what they should be doing with their wealth. I'm not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination. I'd be SOL within a few months if I lost my job and couldn't get a new one fast. It's none of my business what those with truckloads of cash do with their wealth. Not sure why so many people think it's acceptable to tell others where and how they donate their money to. My guess is that if one did serious digging you would find those that are donating large sums to Notre Dame are already also donating money to several other things.
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Re: Paris: Notre Dame built in 1160 burning

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:34 pm

over a million dollars raised for these black churches in 24 hours since the Notre Dame fire

100 thousand dollars in just two hours

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$1,312,799 of $1.8M goal

Not sure why so many people think it's acceptable to tell others where and how they donate their money to. My guess is that if one did serious digging you would find those that are donating large sums to Notre Dame are already also donating money to several other things.


absolutely agree 1000%


Sorry, Flint and Puerto Rico.

JUST IN: White House offers to assist France in Notre Dame rehabilitation http://hill.cm/ijHPeHC

not that there is anything wrong with that but trump does not realize that Flint and Puerto Rico are part of the U.S. help wouldn't be charity it would be deserved




Francois-Henri Pinault, the billionaire CEO of the Kering luxury goods empire, announced he would forfeit his rebate on the €100m he has pledged.

"The donation for Notre-Dame of Paris will not be the object of any tax deduction. Indeed, the Pinault family considers that it is out of the question to make French taxpayers shoulder the burden," he said in a statement.


Billionaires face 'yellow vest' scorn over Notre-Dame pledges

An aerial shot of the fire damage to Notre Dame cathedral in Paris CREDIT: GIGARAMA.RU
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18 APRIL 2019 • 8:19AM

Billionaire French tycoons faced a mounting backlash on Wednesday over tax breaks on their huge donations to restore Notre-Dame, as Yellow Vest protestors said the hundreds of millions of euros should be spent on tackling France's social problems.

The contributions to the cathedral's renovation approached €900 million (£780m) on Wednesday as the owners of Chanel and Dior stepped forward with donations along with Disney and the technology giant Apple.

However, the outpouring of cash has angered supporters of France's Yellow Vest movement, which noted that President Emmanuel Macron's "rich friends" stood to receive major tax breaks linked to donations in support of the public good and restoring national treasures.

They also pointed out that the sudden willingness of wealthy businesses to turn out their pockets showed that money was available to boost the French government's coffers.

French corporations are eligible for a 60-percent tax rebate on cultural donations. “There is growing anger on social media over the inertia of big corporations over social misery while they are showing themselves capable of mobilising a crazy amount of cash overnight for Notre Dame," said Ingrid Levavasseur, one of the founding members of the Yellow Vests.


12 apostles removed from Notre-Dame a week ago
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Benjamin Cauchy, a spokesman for the Yellow Vests, added: “It’s fine that the oligarchy is paying for Notre Dame. Good consciences do not hide misery and austerity.”

The Yellow Vests say they will be holding more demonstrations against Mr Macron this Saturday despite the Notre-Dame catastrophe.

Previous protests have led to violent clashes on the streets of French towns and cities with riot police.


Anti-government protesters at the Place de la Republique Square during yellow-vest protests in Paris CREDIT: ARINA LEBEDEVA/TASS

Stung by such criticism, Francois-Henri Pinault, the billionaire CEO of the Kering luxury goods empire, announced he would forfeit his rebate on the €100m he has pledged.

"The donation for Notre-Dame of Paris will not be the object of any tax deduction. Indeed, the Pinault family considers that it is out of the question to make French taxpayers shoulder the burden," he said in a statement.

The government said the 60 per cent tax break would remain unchanged but increased the rebate to 75 percent on individual donations for Notre-Dame of up to €1,000.

The French president has called the fire an opportunity for the nation to show unity and that now is "not a time for politics."

"It is up to us to convert this disaster into an opportunity to come together, having deeply reflected on what we have been and what we have to be and become better than we are. It is up to us to find the thread of our national project," he said in a television address earlier this week.
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