Iamwhomiam » 20 Jun 2019 21:01 wrote:
The New York Times published on Tuesday a story by Pam Belluck and Reed Abelson that's relevant to this discussion:[url]Vaccine Injury Claims Are Few and Far Between[/url]Data from a federal program designed to compensate people harmed by vaccines shows how rare it is for someone to claim they were hurt after getting vaccinated. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/health/vaccine-injury-claims.html
Neither I, nor my sisters (2), nor my children (2), grandchildren (2), or great grandchildren (2), suffered any lasting ill effects after being vaccinated. Also, of my sisters' children, each has two, and all have been vaccinated, none have suffered any ill effects after being vaccinated. My nephew's two children, aged 5 and 7 also have been vaccinated and neither suffered any lasting effects afterward. We live all across the country and were vaccinated at different times and none suffered any lasting ill effects, with the worst short-term effects being running a fever and localized discomfort from the injection.
Thanks for adding your anecdotal evidence to a misleading NY Times propaganda piece.
Of course most people are not genetically susceptible to whatever causes bad reactions to certain vaccinations in the small segment of the population that is. What is this supposed to prove?
The data presented by the NY Times article is actually quite alarming to anyone who is actually informed about the benefit vs, cost and risk profile of specific vaccines. Only 6,600 injury settlements (including 530 death settlement) out of a breathless BILLIONS over decades actually means that a US federal court with every possible incentive to dismiss the cases presented before it found sufficient reason to award plaintiffs millions of dollars for hundreds of serious vaccine related injuries every year.
Now consider the fact that vaccines are the only medical intervention routinely administered to perfectly healthy individuals who are not seeking symptomatic relief from any medical condition. Further consider that fact that entire REGIMES of vaccines are effectively mandated for every US resident. So you cannot legitimately quantify the harm of this mandated vaccine regime on a per vaccine basis. Over the last 30 years, roughly 120 million American have been born. This means that roughly 1 in 18,000 Americans born over the last 30 years has suffered a vaccine injury severe enough to have been awarded millions of dollars from a US federal court with every possible incentive to dismiss the cases presented before it.
I challenge anyone here to produce a single QALY analysis of any vaccine or vaccine regimen that has included among its model's assumptions the typically severe costs of even a single vaccine-related injury in our entire population.
From the article:“If vaccines do not cause injuries, why has the vaccine injury trust fund paid out $4,061,322,557.08 for vaccine injuries?” asked Representative Bill Posey, a Florida Republican, in a letter defending the right of parents to make their own decisions about immunizing their children.
What would inclusion of even a 1% estimated portion of this fund do to the QALY estimates of Gardasil, for example. Why are these QALY estimates allowed to completely ignore such profound and incontrovertible costs?
Rather than assuaging our fear, the data presented by the New York Times clearly serves as an indictment of our faith-based vaccine "science". If we assume that the average vaccines has has severe injury rate of less than 1 in 20,000, we currently have no safety mechanisms in place at any point of our regulatory procedure, either before vaccines are mandated or even after
, to quantify which vaccines are more dangerous than others. Typical vaccine trials include far less than 20,000 subjects and the classification of any injuries suffered as "vaccine-related" is made almost exclusively at the discretion of the vaccine manufacturer who always funds and typically runs these "safety" trials. "A total of $4.15 billion in compensation has been paid out since the program’s inception. A small proportion of the claims involve deaths. In 30 years, about 520 death claims have been compensated. Almost half involved an older vaccine for whooping cough that has not been used for two decades."
What scientific quantification mechanism is currently in place to discover the next killer vaccine? Please describe this mechanism to us."The likelihood of serious harm if a person contracts measles is much greater than the chance of being injured from the measles vaccine, data shows. About one of four people who get measles are likely to be hospitalized, and one to two of every 1,000 people who get it are likely to die from the disease, according to the C.D.C. In comparison, claims of harm have been filed for about two out of every million doses of the measles vaccine."
First, there is clear and demonstrable medical bias against attributing harm to vaccinations that all doctors (and politicians and newspaper reporters) "know" are perfectly harmless. Second, the CDC is completely full of shit with its wild overestimates of measles hospitalizations and death. Neither I, nor my brothers (2), nor my parents (2), my grandparents (4), or great grandparents (8) suffered any lasting ill effects because of the measles. Finally, the Hippocratic Oath says, "First, do no harm." Even if the measles vaccine causes severe harm to just 1 one in 500,000 subjects, this is severe debilitating harm inflicted on an otherwise perfectly healthy child that was caused
by an effectively mandated injection!