On mRNA/Gene Therapy

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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:44 pm

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CRUCIAL TESTIMONY BY ERIC CLAPTON

"The vakzeen took my immune system and just shook it around again … and that's still going on."

The masterful GUITAR LEGEND spoke out about his experience with the jab, a brave example that hopefully others will follow.

Among other things, Clapton exposes here the blatant carelessness with which medical personnel warns about risks & handles the adverse effects in the NIH, a trait that sadly is shared by health systems around the world.

"You get caught in a trap: can you believe what your heart tells you is right, or is it going against the narrative?" Deep reflections by an artist with a strong intuition and a pure heart.

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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby drstrangelove » Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:22 pm

Self-proclaimed creator of mRNA vaccines. https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD

Don't mean that disparagingly, just i haven't verified it. He provides quite a lot of proof though and i personally believe him. He has started speaking out about the dangers of these types of vaccines.
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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:48 am

"AIrlines are addressing the issue of blood clots and recommending vaccinated people not to travel"

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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby Karmamatterz » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:47 pm

Blood clots and travel, especially air travel, have long been a concern. I had my first experience with a blood clot right after a 2 hour flight. Serendipitously, a well known cardiologist was my seat mate and he offered me the aisle seat. I had no idea who he was, but as I approached my seat he sized me up and seeing I was very tall he stood and offered me his aisle seat and he took the middle. As I walked to the parking garage my leg was a hot mess with pain that came out of no where. He may have save my life as the clot that did form remained lodged in my calf. Speculation on what would have happened had I not been able to stretch my legs out. As we chatted he told me about himself and the next day at the hospital when I was diagnosed I thought of this kind doc who was so gracious.

A year later I almost died from multiple pulmonary embolisms. That is one of the reasons I was so keenly paying attention to the Corona virus since the beginning when I read a British medical journal that outlined micro clotting in the lungs which was supposedly a result of the COVID.

Airlines should always warn people about potential clotting IMO. Clotting is another concern about the vaccine, but that is not why I'm not taking it. Blood thinners are my prophylactic. However, it's all the other weird injuries taking place that concern me. Just like my editor colleague who two days after his jab collapsed and nearly died from a heart attack.

After reading more of the comments on these links BS and others have shared the amount of medical professionals speaking out has given me hope, but they are still largely censored. It's appalling to read the dozens and dozens of comments on various forums or blogs to discover how devastating these injuries are. We're not just talking about a fever with aches and pains, many people are facing life changing injuries and likely will never have any help or compensation. Would be great some ballsy law firm decided to find a way to get around the 1986 law which prevents the pharmas from being sued. A $500 billion class action lawsuit would be lovely.
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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:00 pm

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Fortunate serendipity, KM, indeed. All of these anecdotes underscore, among other things, that there is wide variety to the ecosystem of each body, and to mandate, coerce or push wide-scale vaccination across populations/demographics is sheer lunacy -- and criminal, especially for those least at risk of severe symptoms from Covid.
(especially when it's becoming increasingly clear there are other sound and efficient treatment options available out there with far less side-effects)

Tragic case in point:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1404 ... 91939.html

19-year-old Simone Scott was excited to get her second dose of @moderna_tx’s #Covid vaccine on May 1.

Now her mother Valerie Kraimer is arranging her funeral.


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Simone, a first-year Northwestern University student, suffered a case of apparent myocarditis-induced heart failure on Sunday, May 16.

Despite extraordinary measures to save her, including a heart transplant, she died Friday morning at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago.
Now her parents are struggling to understand what happened to Simone – and why they had no idea the Covid vaccines might cause myocarditis.
“I lost my only daughter,” Kraimer said Sunday night. “I never thought I’d have to give up my daughter for the greater good of society.”
Doctors appear to have repeatedly missed signals as Simone’s condition worsened in the two weeks following her second shot – before she abruptly crashed.

In mid-May, Israel was reporting high rates of cases of mRNA vaccine-related myocarditis in young people.
But in the United States, vaccinations had just been opened for 12-15 year-olds - and @CDCgov played down the myocarditis risk in young people.

In a statement May 17, the day after Simone died, the CDC reported that it had found “relatively few reports of myocarditis to date...”
Simone’s physicians still have not confirmed that her vaccine caused her heart failure.

But despite nearly a month of intense investigation, including an pathological examination of her heart after its removal in the transplant, they have offered no other explanation.
“My fear is that we’ll never know what happened to Simone,” her father, Kevin Scott, said Sunday night. “[The vaccine] is a coincidence that is too big to ignore.”

“I do suspect it was the vaccine,” Kraimer said. “If it wasn’t direct, it played a role.”
Simone had been a healthy young woman, her only notable illnesses a bout of pneumonia when she was an infant and a second in high school.

She told her mother in sixth grade she wanted to go to Northwestern. Six years later she applied early to the university and was accepted.
“She was very, very disciplined," Kraimer said.

That discipline extended to her attitude toward Covid. She always wore masks and followed Northwestern’s sometimes onerous rules about testing when the school allowed its first-year students on campus in January.
Despite its Covid restrictions, the school was everything she hoped, her mother said.

She produced stories for the school’s in-house television network and quickly made friends.

“She was a Wildcat [the Northwestern mascot] through and through,” Kraimer said. “She bled purple.”
And when Illinois opened vaccinations to younger people, she quickly made an appointment.

“She took it upon herself to get vaccinated,” Kevin Scott said.

But she suffered serious short-term side effects after her first dose April 3 and never fully recovered, her parents said.
Throughout April she had a cough and and felt fatigued. Simone checked in with her mother, who lived near Cincinnati, frequently. Kraimer asked her to go to a doctor.

But neither Simone nor her mother considered whether the vaccine might be behind her symptoms, Kraimer said.
“We thought it was either allegories or a sinus infection.”

So on May 1, as scheduled, Simone received her second Moderna vaccination. This time she had fewer immediate side effects.
But when she flew back to Ohio to surprise her mother for Mother’s Day, Sunday May 9, Kraimer noticed she seemed tired. And Simone told her mother she’d had repeated nosebleeds.

Kraimer told her she needed to make an appointment with a doctor.
Back in Illinois on Wednesday, May 12, she did.

But the visit was virtual and Simone forgot to mention that she’d noticed swelling the day before in her lymph nodes.

The physician told her she probably had allergies.
The next day, she had a low fever and went to the student health clinic. Tests for Sars-Cov-2, flu, and other viruses were negative.

A doctor noted Simone’s heartbeat was irregular but discharged her, telling her to go to the emergency room if the problem worsened, Kraimer said.
The following day she’d developed a sore throat. She went back to the clinic. By now Kraimer was worried enough to insist her daugher FaceTime the visit.

Simone was told she might have a viral infection, given an anti-viral prescription, and again sent back to her dorm room.
By Friday night she was suffering severe fatigue.

Still, her parents assumed she was simply rundown and sick, especially since doctors had now seen her three times in three days.

“People do get sick, and you get some rest, and you sleep, and you get through it,” Kraimer said.
But everything changed Sunday, May 16. Simone texted her father she was too dizzy to get out of bed or eat.

Her mother packed a bag and began the drive from Ohio to Illinois. Her dad called campus police and asked them to check on her. After initially refusing, the police did.
They found Simone unable to walk and called an ambulance to take her to nearby North Shore Hospital.

Kraimer arrived there that night. When she explained who she was there to see, she was escorted into a waiting room. “That’s when I knew things were not right,” she said.
A doctor appeared, telling her that her daughter had gone into heart failure as she was being transported to the hospital and needed immediate surgery.

“They said her heart was not functioning and they needed to insert a balloon pump to get it working.”
Doctors almost immediately diagnosed Simone with myocarditis - heart inflammation, often caused by viral infection. "They did at that point suspect that it was myocarditis," Kraimer said. "They were thinking it was a virus that had attacked her heart."
But Simone's implant failed to restore her heart function. The next day, she was placed on ECMO, a heart-lung bypass. Nearly a month of increasingly desperate medical procedures followed.
On May 20, with a transplant looming, Simone was moved to Northwestern Memorial, the university’s primary teaching hospital.

She was sedated most of the time, but doctors sometimes lightened the sedation enough for her to text her parents. “Am I going home with you?” she asked.
On Sunday, May 23, Simone’s physicians told her parents that her heart did not seem to be recovering on its own and a transplant was her best option.

“We didn’t have much choice,” Kraimer said.

She had the transplant that night. Ultimately, her new heart did begin to pump.
But her lungs had been severely damaged, and the immunosuppressive drugs necessary for her to avoid rejecting the transplant led to severe lung infections.

After a few hopeful days, her prognosis dimmed.
Her parents never completely lost hope.

But on the morning of Friday, June 11, her doctors told them that they could no longer control her blood pressure and that they should come to say goodbye.

At 11:19 a.m., Simone Scott died. She was 19.
Kraimer and Simone's father repeatedly asked whether the hospital intended to report the case to VAERS, the federal system to report vaccine side effects.

Doctors did not seem particularly interested in doing so for most of the time Simone was there, Kraimer said.
“We kept asking if they did and nobody could tell us if they did,” Kraimer said. “It was just a runaround.”

Finally, the day before Simone died, a physician’s assistant promised to report the case.
With their daughter gone, Simone's parents are now hoping that her story will – at the least – raise awareness of the potential for post-Covid vaccine myocarditis.

“I never knew that there was a risk for something as serious as this,” Kraimer said. “I would have wanted to.”
In the meantime, they are left to mourn the loss of their only child.

On May 12, four days before Simone collapsed, Northwestern required all its students – with very limited exceptions – to be vaccinated for the fall 2021 term.
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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:02 am

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It's only going to get more fucked up from here.

Even if i was vaccinated -- and needless to say, this will never happen, increasingly so on principle as much as for health reasons -- i will 'unsubscribe' from any artist or venue that pushes this segregationist/divisive bullshit (but it angers me that those younger than me will have the increasingly likely prospect of being blocked out of event participation simply for taking a stand against experimental shots).
Now it's not just the unvaccinated that are ostracized; certain vaccines are apparently verboten as well.

Dystopic.

How can anyone 'pro vaccine' NOT be troubled by this?

https://www-standard-co-uk.cdn.ampproje ... 1.html?amp



Fans who had AstraZeneca vaccine won’t be allowed into Bruce Springsteen’s New York concerts


Anyone who has had the AstraZeneca vaccine will be barred from attending Bruce Springsteen’s comeback shows in New York next week.

The intimate five-night run at the St James theatre will be the first Broadway show to reopen since last March and will require attendees to show proof of vaccination, reports The Telegraph

Any potential concert-goers who received their Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine overseas will be left with the prospect of being turned away at the door should they book tickets.

“At the direction of New York State, Springsteen on Broadway and the St James Theatre will only be accepting proof of FDA-approved Covid-19 vaccines,” the official website says.



Keep in mind these shots remain EUA. They are NOT FDA approved. Vile beasts playing on words.
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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:01 pm

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...months late, but coming from a mainstream source -- perhaps more will follow. Or not.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/are-covid- ... 1624381749

Are Covid Vaccines Riskier Than Advertised?

There are concerning trends on blood clots and low platelets, not that the authorities will tell you.

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One remarkable aspect of the Covid-19 pandemic has been how often unpopular scientific ideas, from the lab-leak theory to the efficacy of masks, were initially dismissed, even ridiculed, only to resurface later in mainstream thinking. Differences of opinion have sometimes been rooted in disagreement over the underlying science. But the more common motivation has been political.

Another reversal in thinking may be imminent. Some scientists have raised concerns that the safety risks of Covid-19 vaccines have been underestimated. But the politics of vaccination has relegated their concerns to the outskirts of scientific thinking—for now.

Historically, the safety of medications—including vaccines—is often not fully understood until they are deployed in large populations. Examples include rofecoxib (Vioxx), a pain reliever that increased the risk of heart attack and stroke; antidepressants that appeared to increase suicide attempts among young adults; and an influenza vaccine used in the 2009-10 swine flu epidemic that was suspected of causing febrile convulsions and narcolepsy in children. Evidence from the real world is valuable, as clinical trials often enroll patients who aren’t representative of the general population. We learn more about drug safety from real-world evidence and can adjust clinical recommendations to balance risk and benefits.

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or Vaers, which is administered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration, is a database that allows Americans to document adverse events that happen after receiving a vaccine. The FDA and CDC state that the database isn’t designed to determine whether the events were caused by a vaccine. This is true. But the data can nonetheless be evaluated, accounting for its strengths and weaknesses, and that is what the CDC and FDA say they do.

The Vaers data for Covid-19 vaccines show an interesting pattern. Among the 310 million Covid-19 vaccines given, several adverse events are reported at high rates in the days immediately after vaccination, and then fall precipitously afterward. Some of these adverse events might have occurred anyway. The pattern may be partly attributable to the tendency to report more events that happen soon after vaccination.

The database can’t say what would have happened in the absence of vaccination. Nonetheless, the large clustering of certain adverse events immediately after vaccination is concerning, and the silence around these potential signals of harm reflects the politics surrounding Covid-19 vaccines. Stigmatizing such concerns is bad for scientific integrity and could harm patients.

Four serious adverse events follow this arc, according to data taken directly from Vaers: low platelets (thrombocytopenia); noninfectious myocarditis, or heart inflammation, especially for those under 30; deep-vein thrombosis; and death. Vaers records 321 cases of myocarditis within five days of receiving a vaccination, falling to almost zero by 10 days. Prior research has shown that only a fraction of adverse events are reported, so the true number of cases is almost certainly higher. This tendency of underreporting is consistent with our clinical experience.

Analyses to confirm or dismiss these findings should be performed using large data sets of health-insurance companies and healthcare organizations. The CDC and FDA are surely aware of these data patterns, yet neither agency has acknowledged the trend.

The implication is that the risks of a Covid-19 vaccine may outweigh the benefits for certain low-risk populations, such as children, young adults and people who have recovered from Covid-19. This is especially true in regions with low levels of community spread, since the likelihood of illness depends on exposure risk.

And while you would never know it from listening to public-health officials, not a single published study has demonstrated that patients with a prior infection benefit from Covid-19 vaccination. That this isn’t readily acknowledged by the CDC or Anthony Fauci is an indication of how deeply entangled pandemic politics is in science.

There are, however, signs of life for scientific honesty. In May, the Norwegian Medicines Agency reviewed case files for the first 100 reported deaths of nursing-home residents who received the Pfizer vaccine. The agency concluded that the vaccine “likely” contributed to the deaths of 10 of these residents through side effects such as fever and diarrhea, and “possibly” contributed to the deaths of an additional 26. But this type of honesty is rare. And it is rare for any vaccine to be linked to deaths, so this unusual development for mRNA vaccines merits further investigation.

The battle to recover scientific honesty will be an uphill one in the U.S. Anti-Trump politics in the spring of 2020 mushroomed into social-media censorship. News reporting often lacked intellectual curiosity about the appropriateness of public-health guidelines—or why a vocal minority of scientists strongly disagreed with prevailing opinions. Scientists have advocated for or against Covid-19 therapies while having financial relationships with product manufacturers and their foundation benefactors.

Public-health authorities are making a mistake and risking the public’s trust by not being forthcoming about the possibility of harm from certain vaccine side effects. There will be lasting consequences from mingling political partisanship and science during the management of a public-health crisis.

Dr. Ladapo is an associate professor of medicine at UCLA’s David Geffen School of Medicine. Dr. Risch is a professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health.

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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:48 am

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https://www.kusi.com/eight-chest-pain-c ... ccination/


Eight chest pain cases detected in San Diego adolescent boys after vaccination

Posted: June 22, 2021

SAN DIEGO (KUSI) – Rady Children’s Hospital has detected and admitted eight San Diego boys suffering from painful heart muscle inflammation following coronavirus vaccinations.

These local cases represent the more widespread suspicion that the the inflammation, also known as myocarditis, and another named pericarditis, could be rare side effects of the mRNA vaccines.

The COVID-19 vaccines have proven highly effective at limiting the spread of COVID-19 and the eight reported cases of heart symptoms represent 0.007 percent of all vaccinated young people in San Diego.

Dr. John Bradley, Medical Director of Infectious Diseases at Rady Children’s Hospital, joined KUSI’s Logan Byrnes to discuss the eight cases of painful heart muscle inflammation.
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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:41 am

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Vaccines: Reasons for Concern

Part 2: Why does the CDC keep calling post-Covid vaccine heart problems in young men "rare" and "mild" when they are neither?

We can no longer trust the Centers for Disease Control to weigh honestly the risks and benefits of Covid vaccines for young people.

That is the only possible interpretation of Wednesday’s CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) meeting about the link between Covid shots and serious heart problems in teens and young adults.

At the meeting, CDC scientists presented horrendous data. It showed that even without accounting for underreporting, a second dose of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines could increase the risk of problems up to 200-fold in young men.

But the scientists then went on to suggest the vaccines should still given – even to kids already suffering from heart problems.

The CDC’s focus yesterday was on two illnesses, myocarditis and pericarditis, forms of heart inflammation that can occasionally progress to heart failure and even death. The CDC and many reporters insist on calling the cases mild. In fact 95 percent of the 300+ post-vaccination cases the CDC has reviewed have led to hospitalization.

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Keep in mind cases are continuing to come in, and the agency hasn’t reviewed all the cases it has already received. This issue is part of a bigger problem, which is that the volume of side effects reports that the CDC has received on the Covid vaccines has overwhelmed its monitoring system.

To give you a sense of the problem: In all of 2019, the CDC’s voluntary vaccine side effect reporting system received about 48,000 reports for ALL vaccines. So far in 2021 it has received at least seven times that many for Covid vaccines alone.

Also keep in mind that heart inflammation is only ONE potential problem the vaccines may cause. The CDC and journalists generally like to compare each individual vaccine side effect to ALL the risks of Covid, a slight-of-hand that has the effect of making the vaccines seem safer.

In fact, the CDC’s own data shows that for every 100,000 vaccines given to young people, more than 25,000 will have temporary side effects that prevent them from “normal activities,” 700 will require medical care and 200 will be hospitalized.

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Of course, not everyone has gotten Covid - the CDC estimates that about 1/3 of Americans have. (Most never had a positive test, and many never even knew.) Thus, if EVERYONE got Covid, it is reasonable to assume the 50 Covid hospitalizations out of 100,000 adolescents rate might be about three times as high - or 150 per 100,000.

But even the 150 per 100,000 rate is LOWER than the 200 per 100,000 rate of adolescents who are hospitalized in the first week after being vaccinated.

In other words, even if vaccinations stopped every case of Covid in 12-17 year olds forever, and even if they never had side effects after the first week, it is hard to see how the risk-benefit ratio supports vaccination.

That’s especially true for healthy teens. Most Covid hospitalizations occur in people with other illnesses, including diabetes or chronic lung conditions.


But in its presentation Wednesday, the CDC instead claimed that the rate of hospitalization in adolescents was roughly 400 out of 14,000 cases, or close to 2,900 per 100,000 - almost 20 times what its own data shows. (Estimating three deaths out of 14,000 adolescent cases is even less credible.)

And it did not look at the combined rate of all post-vaccine hospitalizations, only those related to myocarditis.

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By offering numbers that its own data do not support, the CDC was able to claim, bizarrely, that Covid vaccinations have a “positive balance for all age and sex groups.” Then the agency’s scientists went even further, saying teens with previous cases of myocarditis or pericarditis could receive the vaccines.

This line of reasoning is so strange that I almost wonder whether a CDC scientist included it to raise alarm about the other recommendations.

Because otherwise, it - like most everything else the agency said yesterday - makes little sense.


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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:53 am

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Q: Why do you call the adenovirus-based (J&J) and mRNA-based vaccines gene therapy-based vaccines? And why is that important? Are you just trying to scare people? Are you an anti-vaxxer?

A: I have spent my whole career seeking to develop fundamental enabling vaccine technologies, developing vaccines, designing and managing vaccine studies etc. Vaccines are my business. I am not an anti-vaxxer. I am a pro-truth, pro-safety, pro-bioethics vaccine developer. Vaccines save lives. They are often (but not always) our best hope for reducing the death and disease associated with many pathogens, and offer hope for treating cancer and other diseases.

So, why are these gene therapy-based vaccines? Because both of these types of vaccines employ technologies that involve transferring foreign genetic material into the cells of the person receiving the vaccine, and making those cells essentially become miniature vaccine antigen manufacturing factories - inside the body.

Why does this matter? Because, from my point of view as the person who first came up with the idea to use "gene therapy" and "mRNA delivery" for vaccination, the "active drug substance" is not the gene therapy vector, it is the protein that is manufactured in your cells. So, from an FDA/regulatory point of view, these products need to be reviewed using the regulations applied to "gene therapy" products as well as those which apply to "vaccines". These are NOT traditional vaccines. Therefore, the FDA should have insisted that the levels and duration of production of the transgene-encoded active drug product (spike protein) should have been well characterized. Make sense? How much spike is being made, in the body of people receiving the vaccine, for how long. Simple stuff. Pretty important.

But the FDA did not think this way, or just did not think. They treated these products like any other vaccine. They have check lists. And to their way of thinking (or not), the formulated mRNA and the adenoviral vector are the active drug product, and they did not need to insist that the product developers characterize how much and for how long the "antigen" (spike) would be produced in your body.

They were wrong.

For example, recombinant adenoviral vectored-vaccines expressing a variety of antigens have been investigated in human clinical studies for years. I am not aware of prior problems with coagulation triggered by those vaccines. So it is reasonable to conclude that the difference is the antigen. Spike. Adenoviral vectors are designed to make lots of protein for a long period of time. So FDA should have had the developer(s) determine how much Spike is being made, and for how long. Simple stuff, right? And the developers should have had to prove that the spike protein produced is not biologically active, that that level is safe, does not bind ACE2, does not open the blood brain barrier, is not cytotoxic etc.

Does that make sense?

Same logic applies to the mRNA vaccines.

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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:12 pm

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[side-note: Robert Malone's LinkedIn account has been suspended, for posting content along the lines quoted above -- which is no longer available]


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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby semper occultus » Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:23 am

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Joining me today is Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA technology used in the COVID-19 injections, here to discuss his concerns over their safety, and the way in which these genuine concerns are being suppressed and outright cenored in real time.

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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby drstrangelove » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:50 am

New Zealand have added "Menstrual disorder" to Pfizer side effects.

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Re: On mRNA/Gene Therapy

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:57 pm

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#MRNA #COVID It is very difficult to get information about mRNA vaccines that dissents from mainstream narratives. Dr. Robert Malone, the self-described inventor of mRNA vaccines, was recently removed from Linkedin. He is joining me to discuss the technology and censorship.





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you know, and the next day i
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was de-listed
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so and that was the that was the post
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that they
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they indicated as their top reason for
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deleting
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me so so they and and one of the others
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that they deleted me for so well
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in general it was that i had outed the
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chairman of the board of reuters
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i had posted the
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editorial
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about risks with the covered vaccines
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rna vaccines from the wall street
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journal
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and i had complained about censorship so
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those are the reasons they censored me.
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This is kind of hilarious actually it is
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even worse
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because they misspelled the subject line
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uh so it seems that it was a custom
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thing that somebody hastily put together
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because of senior management pressure at
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least that's the appearance


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