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Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:45 pm

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I've been following the story Re: Dr. Noack and Graphene Hydr/oxide in shots. Unfortunately, the reality of the situation won't become clear until fatal events become more common over time (and efforts to suppress vaccine-related deaths are no longer sustainable).

Every day I strain to find a relatively benign cause for all of this ("mass formation", temporary mass hypnosis, greed among those in power, etc), hoping the underlying drivers are not as nefarious as they increasingly appear to be.

Are those of us raising red flags the canaries in the coal mine or just paranoid subversives (or perhaps a bit of both)? I hope it turns out to be the latter, but with each passing month the former is more probable.

A tragedy that so much time must transpire -- and so many lives ruined -- in the process of reaching greater collective awareness.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:01 pm

A longer interview with Dr Campra. Obviously, being interviewed by Stew Peters invalidates all his research, but for those who are interested, it's quite eye opening stuff. The more speculative elements are particularly interesting and strike me as particularly relevant to Rigorous Intuition, well, the RI of old. I remain sceptical, but as ever I keep an open mind.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-pablo ... I2pp9.html
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:26 pm

Harvey, that video was from 18 Nov 2020, I watched it many months ago.

The cops were so over-the-top and their shouting and yelling sounded so stagey that I more-or-less dismissed that film as fake at the time. But the police have since confirmed, on the record, that the raid really took place as filmed. They've said they were there to catch someone (unnamed) who was "wanted for drugs offences" and who was allegedly present in the house at the time. (Dr Noack himself was never charged with anything.) --

https://report24.news/fragen-und-unstim ... -dr-noack/

Now we have this new film from his girlfriend.

It all raises a lot of questions. For instance, how many of these real provincial plods are now half-consciously mimicking the fictional cops they've been watching all their lives in movies and on TV? And how many people who are really grief-stricken or worried look or sound kind of weird and fake nowadays because they too have been learning from mediocre actors on the telly how to perform worry or grief?

I have no idea where Dr Andreas Noack is now or whether he's even still alive, or what killed him if he isn't. Nor have I seen anyone suggest any good reason why he should have lied about his qualifications, his highly-specialised knowledge, his previous employers, or the company he founded, and even gone out of his way to film himself doing so. Nor have I seen anyone even claim that he is lying about any of that. Nor have I seen anyone refute his claims about the dangerousness of the particles he says he's identified.

But unless and until we get irrefutable confirmation of his death (or he turns up and speaks for himself), I'd be wary about this case. The Prickers certainly have a lot to gain from getting people excited prematurely about a false alarm and using that to discredit the Unpricked.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:28 pm

Belligerent Savant » Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:45 am wrote:.

I've been following the story Re: Dr. Noack and Graphene Hydr/oxide in shots. Unfortunately, the reality of the situation won't become clear until fatal events become more common over time (and efforts to suppress vaccine-related deaths are no longer sustainable).

Every day I strain to find a relatively benign cause for all of this ("mass formation", temporary mass hypnosis, greed among those in power, etc), hoping the underlying drivers are not as nefarious as they increasingly appear to be.

Are those of us raising red flags the canaries in the coal mine or just paranoid subversives (or perhaps a bit of both)? I hope it turns out to be the latter, but with each passing month the former is more probable.

A tragedy that so much time must transpire -- and so many lives ruined -- in the process of reaching greater collective awareness.

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I have no doubt that we're being lied to on an industrial scale all the time. That's just industry. While I have never once been afraid of Covid, I stayed on the fence longer than most of you about what it is and what it represents. Some of you saw it very clearly early on, you amongst them BS. But I'm afraid that at this point I am definitely all in.

I know with complete certainty that we're in the middle of a fight for our lives, not against a virus but against the culture that has taken over all of our cultures. I also know that 'Covid' is a final and decisive chapter in that story. I know it is not an accidental hell paved with benign intentions. I know it is pre-meditated and engineered. I know it is a purposefully created crisis, enacted by a relative few. It took a while for me to arrive at this point, but I'm definitely here. What I don't know is how to counter it effectively, beyond a mass movement against all of it, involving almost everybody. In that sense it represents a last great oportunity to bring the whole charade down to the ground and embark on an entirely different journey in an entirely different direction, all of us together.

The odds are against us.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:29 pm

MacCruiskeen » Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:26 am wrote:But unless and until we get irrefutable confirmation of his death (or he turns up and speaks for himself), I'd be wary about this case. The Prickers certainly have a lot to gain from getting people excited prematurely about a false alarm and using that to discredit the Unpricked.


Agreed. (See my additional post.)
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:05 pm


Christine Anderson did not kill herself next month.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:18 pm

Harvey » Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:28 pm wrote:I know with complete certainty that we're in the middle of a fight for our lives, not against a virus but against the culture that has taken over all of our cultures. I also know that 'Covid' is a final and decisive chapter in that story. I know it is not an accidental hell paved with benign intentions. I know it is pre-meditated and engineered. I know it is a purposefully created crisis, enacted by a relative few. It took a while for me to arrive at this point, but I'm definitely here. What I don't know is how to counter it effectively, beyond a mass movement against all of it, involving almost everybody. In that sense it represents a last great oportunity to bring the whole charade down to the ground and embark on an entirely different journey in an entirely different direction, all of us together.

The odds are against us.


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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:27 pm


Christ... Imagine the amount of thought and work (and money) that went into conceiving, designing, approving and distributing that monstrosity. The studied pinkness of it all. The nice cardi. The new hairdo. The shit-eating grin. ("You're ours. The diddly pindeemic is here to stay.") The cutesy typeface. The simpering exclamation marks. The asterisks and footnotes.

Propagandists have come on a bit since Goebbels. But picture the message in gothic script and minus the photo.
"Each booster gives you up to six months worth of freedoms!" *
* Freedoms not available in all areas and are subject to change.

No, Jab, No Job, no refunds.

Obey or starve. "Labour" is not the name of a party, it's a barked command.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:31 pm

Grizzly » Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:05 am wrote:
Christine Anderson did not kill herself next month.


Phwoar! Now there's a woman after my own mind.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:28 am

Germany: The unspeakable bank clerk Jens Spahn is gone...
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"Everyone will be vaccinated, recovered or dead."

...and things have just gotten even worse. Here's the country's new Health Minister:
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Karl fucking Lauterbach (I can hardly bring myself to type his name.)

When I first heard the news I thought it was a joke, but this is 2021. Lauterbach is much more dangerous than he looks. Since March 2020, this sinister and ridiculous publicity-hound has been a fixture on the talkshows -- fearmongering, doomsaying, bloviating, talking up the Variants, predicting mayhem and demanding "tougher measures". Little Karl has played his part and now he's been given his reward.

Meanwhile, the pressure on the stubbornly Unpricked is intensifying daily. Nagging hasn't worked, vilification hasn't had the desired effect, exclusion from work, travel, public life and public transport has still left millions of people determined to defend themselves and their kids, and now even the obediently Pricked are slowly starting to wonder if they haven't in fact been punked.

But it's only a matter of time till the shameless hacks in the media get the "violent protests" or "right-wing * terror attacks" they're pretending to dread and not-so-secretly yearning for. One way or another they'll find or provoke or stage an atrocity. That'll be the cue for the crackdown.

*In 2021 it's right-wing by definition to doubt TheScience, distrust the media, resist Big Pharma, protect children's health, defend the most elementary civil liberties, or demonstrate even peacefully against a fascist coup.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby overcoming hope » Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:59 am

What’s happening now I saw a version of it as inevitable, but I did think it was going to take another 20 years to get there. I keep very quiet my opinions are not discussed and I have no idea what can be done.
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Postby Harvey » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:38 am

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:20 pm

Two days ago, in a suburb of Berlin, a man shot his wife and his three young children dead before turning the gun on himself. The parents were both aged 40, the children 4, 8 and 10.

According to media reports, the police and public prosecutor say the father left a suicide note, in which he stated that he had acquired a fake "vaccination certificate" for his wife, that her boss had discovered the deception, and that he feared they would both be arrested and have their kids taken away from them.



Of course the politicians, pundits, pseudoscientists, careerist medics and sanctimonious hacks will never accept any share of responsibility for this atrocity. But their brutal two-year campaign of lies, disinfo, panicmongering, bullying, isolation and coercion was bound to lead to something like this eventually.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:25 pm

https://unglossed.substack.com/p/a-crisis-in-crisis

Footnotes at source link.

I try not to use this journal as an outlet for “personal notes,” but as media/state intentions haven’t looked this ambiguous in months, what is one left with but stray musings?

The obvious, primary danger of a state of emergency is that the judiciary becomes defunct. In a vestigially federalized government like the US, this would mean that checks on the executive would devolve from the Federal courts to the states - from Judicial Review, to Nullification.

Arguably, this is where it the country should move in the long run - but in the short term, when the Federal government is still accustomed to direct mediation of state affairs, it would have represented a precursor to a second civil war. And yet it turned out that our Federal judiciary is not defunct. The flimsy OSHA “mandate” - really just a pretext for collusion between the administration and corporations - was suspended, effectively refuting the “emergency.”

The administration was not prepared for this rebuke. There was no backup plan, to restore the “emergency” - which is to say, the elite assurance of an artificial, media-sustained consensus of an emergency among the public at large. The Pandemic™ effectively ended; or at least, the theatre of the White House, that cardboard stage adorned with VACCINE.GOV logos and prowled by a snarling skeleton, ceased to have any power to speak for the thing.

But because of this accidental defiance by the Federal judiciary, and the accidental unpreparedness of the executive to respond to it, some small shred of legitimacy has been retained, in the government of the US. The states and the Federal government can return to a state of cold war - a patchwork of in-minority-party states in quiet defiance to current Federal policy, with no formal declaration of crisis.

I’ll skip over the recent capitulation of several larger healthcare providers, as any comment on the subject would hazard fantasy. I don’t really know anything about what goes on in the mind of a the administrator of an institution whose core mission is to denaturalize human life and pervert human death in the service of manufacturing billable event codes. Did another concern briefly overtake the core mission, only to be renounced, or has the calculus on the core mission changed? Who can say.

I’ll also exempt schools from my comments. Here, things are still seemingly up-in-the-air. Until there is a broad, feet-to-the-ground revolt against masking and injecting children, I’m not sure they can count on any protection from continued theatre and experimentation. We, as a society, are simply too indifferent to them.1

More significant and perceptible is the alteration to “Leviathan,” the public at large. Even through autumn, through the constant, gleeful expert promotion of Covid Vaccine Failure, the ire of the Believers in the Experts was intensely focused on the unvaccinated, but all at once the air seems to have been let out. What changed?

I think it was the same thing that was obvious in August: Once the double-dosed were declared “unvaccinated,” the illusion would begin to crumble. This moment must not precede the purge of the un-dosed, in order to bring the police state into being.2 And yet the administration tried.

Has it, at last, failed? The rapid evaporation of a sense of crisis over Omicron suggests this may be the case. But a more pessimistic strain of thought in Covid-vaccine-skeptical world suggests that Omicron is merely the “emergency” framed in advance for impending illness among the Covid-vaccinated - referring, in this case, to the theory that the “common cold” has now become deadly for those who have submitted to this wild experiment on their immune systems. I remain ambivalent on the matter, at present; as always I think the shots are directly harmful enough as it is that a legitimate crisis of some “universal human illness” might only be a matter of months or years away. The best chance of skirting such a crisis lies in the possibility that inconsistencies in manufacture and cold chain essentially resulted in most recipients receiving little or no viable product. We won’t know until we know.

But, the chance remains that the pessimists might be vindicated. There is really no need to keep the masses terrified of a virus, or to maintain hatred and “otherizing” of the unvaccinated, if an iatrogenic crisis arises - it will still be quite fertile ground for the ushering in of autocracy. The new script can be written after the fact.

Either way, it is refreshing (unless you live in a region that has doubled down over Omicron, such as NYC) to not just catch a glimpse at the end of the Vilification of the Unvaccinated Tunnel, but to suddenly feel that we may already be on the verge.

But don’t have the audacity go breaking any toes for the moment. You’re still not a “person,” entitled to legal protection against deliberate media slander, just yet.3
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:05 pm

stickdog99 » 05 Dec 2021 12:01 wrote:
Of course its not fucken okay.

How many times do I have to say its the same shit that always happens in the NT, or that the lockdown in Rockdale and Binjari is more severe than in the rich suburbs of SYdney before it gets thru your fucken skull that it is never okay and that forcible removal is just the same shit people like you have ignored up until now cos it isn't a chance to whinge about nazis and covid.


So it's not fucken OK, but because it happens all the time and I never noticed before because I live on the exact other side of the world, it's actually OK?

Meanwhile you are happy to call someone a moron cos they come from one of the most medically disadvantaged populations on the planet and started down the path to helping their people, possibly being a doctor one day, by going from no qualifications to some.


Who called anyone a moron? What I said it that the guy works for Cheery Postcard Authors Incorporated. Which he does. And I guess my "insult" of Mr. Cheery Postcard is now supposed to be what makes something that is "not fucken OK" OK?

You pretend to give a fuck about indigenous people but you don't really.

You are literally doing what that fella said - using his people as props in your little psycho drama. You responded to him pointing this out by calling him a moron. That's contemptible.


So now, my lack of real concern for your bestest buddies and my contemptible "use" of them by suggesting that what has happened to them is not fucken OK is actually what makes something that is "not fucken OK" OK?

They aren't concentration camps either. Kids were able to escape from them. Our Olympic team quarantined in the same facility after the Olympics. None of them were held beyond their quarantine, used as sexual slaves or murdered.


Aha! Now we finally have something that makes the way they treated your bestest buddies OK. Right?

Because despite your efforts to bring me into this situation personally. it really wasn't anything that I did that makes what your government did to these innocent and perfectly healthy indigenous people OK. Now, was it?


Bullshit. What you posted is there for anyone to see.
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