Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

[Belligerent Savant]

Has Cuba been mentioned?

No and huge thanks for doing so.

Another piece from November:

Cuba’s bet on home-grown COVID vaccines is paying off
Preprint data show that a three-dose combo of Soberana jabs has 92.4% efficacy in clinical trials.

Thanks, LO.

Cuba has produced five Covid vaccines with no intention of financial profit. Is there a clue there somewhere?

Yeah somewhere....

There is no separation of 'profit' from vaccines, in most cases. Certainly not with these new, shiny mRNA types. Profit is one of the primary drivers, along with vaccine's utility as a vehicle for more overt control mechanisms (passports, digital ID, etc).

To suggest, or hint, that there is some... humanitarian ... objective*, or that such an approach remains a possibility is simply naive, unfortunately. And candidly, frustrating to observe, because it's clear by now the top drivers are malevolent; all citizens/humans with an interest in human rights should be focusing energy on non-compliance and/or protest, however they can.


*at certain levels in the process this may well be the case. But not among the chief drivers of operation and execution. Not in any region where pharma lobbies have influence. America, the EU, Australia, Asia -- they won't be following Cuba's blueprint anytime soon.

[Belligerent Savant]

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Meanwhile, See El Salvador's latest Covid Health Campaign. Note the stark difference in messaging compared to the likes of, say, Fauci or Biden.

(unfortunately I couldn't find a youtube clip of this to embed here. You'll need to click on the link)

https://twitter.com/nayibbukele/status/ ... 17385?s=20

[conniption]

Dr. Sam White | Session 85: Rethinking

Watch >> https://odysee.com/@Corona-Investigativ ... 5-en.mp4:3

Corona Investigative Committee
@Corona-Investigative-Committee
December 31st, 2021

Dr. Sam White - General Practitioner
The Corona Committee was formed by four lawyers. It is conducting an evidence review of the Corona crisis and actions.

@CharlesLeMagne
Timestamps:
00:00▪︎ Dr. Sam White, GB
▫️Highest UK court overturns ruling to revoke a doctor's license
▫️First criminal complaint launched against UK government officials for criminal misconduct in public office relating to the Covid vaccine roll-out
01:44 • A brief summary of Dr. White's history
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18:44 • Underreporting factor for adverse events?
23:34 • Dr Wodarg: Different badges with different contents
34:44 • Craig Paardekooper did the research
38:28 • Vaccine victims self-help groups online are heavily censored

[MacCruiskeen]

Oedipa Maas@bridgietherease 38 mins ago

I'm sorry it's too funny


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIRMrakXMAA ... name=small

Meanwhile, the corporation that calls itself "the world's trusted news source" informs us, on its front page, that these two perfectly healthy 72-year-old men have just died "of Covid" (sic):

France's Bogdanoff TV twins die of Covid six days apart
4 hours ago
... They died of coronavirus within days of each other in hospital, Grichka on 28 December and his brother on Monday. [...] Although their families did not specify the cause of their deaths, their lawyer Edouard de Lamaze confirmed they had both contracted the virus.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59867046

That noise you can hear is the collapsing credibility of mainstream media, politicians of all parties, and TheScience™.

We live in interesting times.

[Belligerent Savant]

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KBirb
@birb_k
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Another side of the Covid response that is far from trivial.

https://twitter.com/birb_k/status/14784 ... 76547?s=20

How do the fervent mask wearers + climate change 'activists' resolve this? Repetitive purchase and use of masks HARMS THE PLANET.

[liminalOyster]

Has Cuba been mentioned?

No and huge thanks for doing so.

Another piece from November:

Cuba’s bet on home-grown COVID vaccines is paying off
Preprint data show that a three-dose combo of Soberana jabs has 92.4% efficacy in clinical trials.

Thanks, LO.

Cuba has produced five Covid vaccines with no intention of financial profit. Is there a clue there somewhere?

Yeah somewhere....

There is no separation of 'profit' from vaccines, in most cases. Certainly not with these new, shiny mRNA types. Profit is one of the primary drivers, along with vaccine's utility as a vehicle for more overt control mechanisms (passports, digital ID, etc).

To suggest, or hint, that there is some... humanitarian ... objective*, or that such an approach remains a possibility is simply naive, unfortunately. And candidly, frustrating to observe, because it's clear by now the top drivers are malevolent; all citizens/humans with an interest in human rights should be focusing energy on non-compliance and/or protest, however they can.

Humanitarian in the sense of altruistic care for others is 100% at the individual or social/relationship level and only incidental to the larger and more powerful machines which are only composed of individuals and small collectives, agreed. There are definitely really well meaning people who work within the same machine that decided to risk the fate of humanity on the possibility of making obscene amounts of money off MRNA. But ultimately, in industrial modern societies for 200 years there has been an emphasis on population management in one form or another that has now come into very very stark relief. It's my opinion and probably divergent from yours, respectfully, that some people have never really thought much about this aspect of modern life and when they come into contact with it they feel betrayed and shocked and that turns into a narrative that insists on the existence of evil that can be countenanced, understood and attributed fairly easily. I really can't find that in the world. I wish I could.

I don't think the top drivers here are any more malevolent than your average surgeon who is basically systematically indoctrinated to objectify patients into bodies by dissociating from them as humans through the grotesque ritual of cadaver dissection. I'm glad surgeons exist, in the end, but I wouldn't want to marry one much less sit next to one on an airplane. They creep me out.

But all sorts of scientific managers, population and otherwise are trained to see humans in aggregate in this way.

That, to me, is a much more complicated problem with far reaching effects and it's a motherfucker to sort out, understand, analyze and figure out how to operate within. I can't, for all I try. The closest I can come is to indict any dehumanized view of "populations" which frames society as an abstract aggregate.

To me, that's what Fauci embodies to a tee. But I'm very wary of any view of society at large which thinks the main problem is evil. I don't see it in my daily life. I see too much good to believe it.

[stickdog99]

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[stickdog99]

Has Cuba been mentioned?

No and huge thanks for doing so.

Another piece from November:

Cuba’s bet on home-grown COVID vaccines is paying off
Preprint data show that a three-dose combo of Soberana jabs has 92.4% efficacy in clinical trials.

Thanks, LO.

Cuba has produced five Covid vaccines with no intention of financial profit. Is there a clue there somewhere?

Yeah somewhere....

There is no separation of 'profit' from vaccines, in most cases. Certainly not with these new, shiny mRNA types. Profit is one of the primary drivers, along with vaccine's utility as a vehicle for more overt control mechanisms (passports, digital ID, etc).

To suggest, or hint, that there is some... humanitarian ... objective*, or that such an approach remains a possibility is simply naive, unfortunately. And candidly, frustrating to observe, because it's clear by now the top drivers are malevolent; all citizens/humans with an interest in human rights should be focusing energy on non-compliance and/or protest, however they can.

Humanitarian in the sense of altruistic care for others is 100% at the individual or social/relationship level and only incidental to the larger and more powerful machines which are only composed of individuals and small collectives, agreed. There are definitely really well meaning people who work within the same machine that decided to risk the fate of humanity on the possibility of making obscene amounts of money off MRNA. But ultimately, in industrial modern societies for 200 years there has been an emphasis on population management in one form or another that has now come into very very stark relief. It's my opinion and probably divergent from yours, respectfully, that some people have never really thought much about this aspect of modern life and when they come into contact with it they feel betrayed and shocked and that turns into a narrative that insists on the existence of evil that can be countenanced, understood and attributed fairly easily. I really can't find that in the world. I wish I could.

I don't think the top drivers here are any more malevolent than your average surgeon who is basically systematically indoctrinated to objectify patients into bodies by dissociating from them as humans through the grotesque ritual of cadaver dissection. I'm glad surgeons exist, in the end, but I wouldn't want to marry one much less sit next to one on an airplane. They creep me out.

But all sorts of scientific managers, population and otherwise are trained to see humans in aggregate in this way.

That, to me, is a much more complicated problem with far reaching effects and it's a motherfucker to sort out, understand, analyze and figure out how to operate within. I can't, for all I try. The closest I can come is to indict any dehumanized view of "populations" which frames society as an abstract aggregate.

To me, that's what Fauci embodies to a tee. But I'm very wary of any view of society at large which thinks the main problem is evil. I don't see it in my daily life. I see too much good to believe it.

Maybe you might want to read RFK, Jr.'s new book about Fauci before dismissing his almost inarguable malevolence? Just saying ...

[Belligerent Savant]

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Liminal - my sentiments are aligned with yours in some respects, though my current position is that the overpopulation problem is not so much an issue of too many people, but an issue of logistics/resources involved in maintaining current excessive lifestyles. Our current lifestyles aren't sustainable, so rather than revert to more practical, natural lifestyles, decisions have been made over time to instead perform passive (and now, more overt) culling of populations to maximize benefit to the few at the expense of the many.

In any event, in the generations ahead headcount will be markedly lower at current trajectories.

So much of "evil" is banal bureaucratic/functionary measures -- our mgmt classes are set up for this. "Just following orders". Empathy decreases with each generation, expedited to practical extinction now.

None of this should be accepted or pardoned, though we can aim to understand the underlying drivers better.

To me, that's what Fauci embodies to a tee. But I'm very wary of any view of society at large which thinks the main problem is evil. I don't see it in my daily life. I see too much good to believe it.

I long ago stopped comparing my own daily life to the machinations in place in the factories, where the sausages are made.
The perspectives of a crime scene investigator will often be distinct from the perspective of the average american, particularly if that average american has consistent shelter and 3 square meals a day.



(I for one have seen some unpleasant things in my 40-odd years of life so far. Yes, there is inherent good out there -- commoners are largely inherently good. But circumstances and events can change people, sometimes en masse. Observe current collective psychological trauma; "Mass formation" is now in everyone's search engine due in no small part to the recent exchange between Malone and Rogan, but people -- otherwise decent people -- can be drawn to evil thoughts and acts. Numerous examples throughout history of this. We're witnessing it again now, perhaps more wide-scale than ever before)

[MacCruiskeen]

Macron ever more thuggish, ever more openly fascist:

Covid: President Macron warns he will 'hassle' France's unvaccinated
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59873833

The word this fine statesman actually used was "emmerder" (from "merde"); he's threatening to fuck up the lives of the Unpricked. (Je t'emmerde! = Fuck you!) The same policies are already in force in Germany. This is a coordinated global coup. Divide and conquer.

"Eh bien là, les non-vaccinés, j’ai très envie de les emmerder. Et donc on va continuer de le faire, jusqu’au bout. C’est ça, la stratégie."
https://www.lemonde.fr/politique/articl ... 23448.html

[drstrangelove]

Macron is taking over the EU presidency just in time to preside over the push for mandatory vaccination within the European Union. I think Germany and Austria have already set a date for Feb 1st 2022.

Besides being groomed by his wife from an early age, Macron was mentored by Baron David de Rothschild at Rothschild & Co for about five years just before he reentered politics a rich man with a fresh perspective on what the real power situation is.

Best of luck my European friends.

[liminalOyster]

Has Cuba been mentioned?

No and huge thanks for doing so.

Another piece from November:

Cuba’s bet on home-grown COVID vaccines is paying off
Preprint data show that a three-dose combo of Soberana jabs has 92.4% efficacy in clinical trials.

Thanks, LO.

Cuba has produced five Covid vaccines with no intention of financial profit. Is there a clue there somewhere?

Yeah somewhere....

There is no separation of 'profit' from vaccines, in most cases. Certainly not with these new, shiny mRNA types. Profit is one of the primary drivers, along with vaccine's utility as a vehicle for more overt control mechanisms (passports, digital ID, etc).

To suggest, or hint, that there is some... humanitarian ... objective*, or that such an approach remains a possibility is simply naive, unfortunately. And candidly, frustrating to observe, because it's clear by now the top drivers are malevolent; all citizens/humans with an interest in human rights should be focusing energy on non-compliance and/or protest, however they can.

Humanitarian in the sense of altruistic care for others is 100% at the individual or social/relationship level and only incidental to the larger and more powerful machines which are only composed of individuals and small collectives, agreed. There are definitely really well meaning people who work within the same machine that decided to risk the fate of humanity on the possibility of making obscene amounts of money off MRNA. But ultimately, in industrial modern societies for 200 years there has been an emphasis on population management in one form or another that has now come into very very stark relief. It's my opinion and probably divergent from yours, respectfully, that some people have never really thought much about this aspect of modern life and when they come into contact with it they feel betrayed and shocked and that turns into a narrative that insists on the existence of evil that can be countenanced, understood and attributed fairly easily. I really can't find that in the world. I wish I could.

I don't think the top drivers here are any more malevolent than your average surgeon who is basically systematically indoctrinated to objectify patients into bodies by dissociating from them as humans through the grotesque ritual of cadaver dissection. I'm glad surgeons exist, in the end, but I wouldn't want to marry one much less sit next to one on an airplane. They creep me out.

But all sorts of scientific managers, population and otherwise are trained to see humans in aggregate in this way.

That, to me, is a much more complicated problem with far reaching effects and it's a motherfucker to sort out, understand, analyze and figure out how to operate within. I can't, for all I try. The closest I can come is to indict any dehumanized view of "populations" which frames society as an abstract aggregate.

To me, that's what Fauci embodies to a tee. But I'm very wary of any view of society at large which thinks the main problem is evil. I don't see it in my daily life. I see too much good to believe it.

Maybe you might want to read RFK, Jr.'s new book about Fauci before dismissing his almost inarguable malevolence? Just saying ...

I'm not a fan of Fauci and I'm not defending him in any way. But I think he's more a product of a very sick strain of (banally "evil") thought that is common as hell due to conditions (*and* machines) much bigger than him.

I do think he has a bit of a streak of authoritarian sadist in him if you watch him in old videos clearly enjoying (or just feeling powerful for) alarming people about things related to HIV which turned out to be very bogus, but I doubt he's full-blown.

And, on the other hand, I was touched (in a very small way and as part of a much more complicated portrait of the man) by the friendship he eventually cultivated with Larry Kramer. It showed a bare modicum of human ability to change view, empathize, etc. Seems more like your average wonk who achieves some degree of power/celebrity/influence and it goes to his head a little.

[stickdog99]

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@Shirley04101935
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I can't abide dishonesty and from the top down we're being taken for fucking idiots.

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Most of the population are behaving like them to be fair.

https://twitter.com/Shirley04101935/sta ... 12928?s=20

[MacCruiskeen]

"Brought to you by Pfizer." "Brought to you by Pfizer." "Brought to you by Pfizer." ...

Follow TheScience™. Follow the money.(45s):
https://twitter.com/Detrieman/status/14 ... 5779854341

Children's Health Defense, 11/02/21
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These are just some of the many recent examples where Pfizer has sponsored prominent television news and information programs on American television. ...

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