Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

[MacCruiskeen]

It will make no damn difference to anything, because he'll be replaced by another unit

Indeed. But it'll be good to see him go, regardless.

But we should think about why it feels so good when it makes so little difference to the functioning of the machine, i.e. none, like the departure of Hancock or Spahn. .Or Nixon. It's all Spectacle. Two minutes' hate, at most. Then back to business as usual.

The only thing that can halt the conveyor belt is revolution.

unwavering non-compliance. If done en masse, there is nothing that can be done to counter it.

That would amount to about half a revolution (and NB, it still hasn't happened yet). It would signify the complete discrediting of the entire political and media class along with the medical mafia. All of which is long overdue.

But it won't be nearly enough unless those bastards * are forced out forever and kept very far from power. That won't happen by wishing. It will take an effort that will dwarf what was done in any previous revolution. But if the effort isn't made, by millions. and now, they'll create hell on earth. They have not been shy about signaling their intentions. Reset means erasure. Who will weep for obsolete data?

* ON EDIT: See, I'm succumbing to personal aversion myself. It's not difficult to hate these individuals, and it's not even wrong to. It's just not nearly enough. It's another trap.

For generations now, we've been trained to be lazy, passive and helpless spectators, and the last 20 years have addicted most of us to screens. "Distracted from distraction by distraction", faces and names to hate and love. We're so used to having everything done for us, we are now content to let anything be done to us. We are being flattered & cajoled & sedated & entertained to death. By "we", I mean the educated class, the class that already believes it has transcended both matter and spirit, the class that imagines it can avoid dirt and death and decisions, morality and mortality. We are not in the majority. Nor are we right.

If there is hope, it lies in the so-called "proles". No joke.

[liminalOyster]

We (all, you included) need to see the origiunal source of that and to verify its provenence.

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Its also the sort of thing that is easy to fake and perfect for discrediting people if it can be later shown to be fake.

The venue it's being floated through should make anyone suspect that maneuver might be waiting in the wings. I am not as dismissive of mick twink dwarf James O'Keefe as most prog partisans are, because his second act has been far more interesting than the cheap provocations of his first.

Much like feral attack ginger Charles "Chuck" Johnson, O'Keefe has evolved into a serious player in the space where political machinations and opposition research begin to resemble actual journalism. And as I never get tired of saying, all journalism is the work of politically motivated actors; there is no neutral media, no objectivity.

In light of these alleged revelations, a few things: the document itself is mostly plausible as an internal C.Y.A. fact-finding memo, but to my horse sense it goes a bit off the rails when it starts proffering opinions on nCoV treatment regimes like Ivermectin. (And mind ye faithful, I'm like 80-90% on Ivermectin actually being a perfectly efficacious treatment that got bad-jacked for no other reason than a low profit margin and a high proximity to DJT45.) That just seems far beyond the scope of the bureaucracy at work here and it makes me suspicious.

Second, O'Keefe previously disclosed the practice of selling body parts from aborted fetuses. Somehow that has since been ensconced in fact-checker history as a hoax, or at best, one of those pesky "out of context" free radicals, but in the real world, O'Keefe landed a bombshell there, including video recordings of PP personnel frankly discussing pricing and procurement. PP won a lawsuit against the Veritas org not for falsehoods, libel or slander, but for recording those videos without permission per state law.

Third, consider the tireless and incredible volunteer research organization DRASTIC, who were piecing together the EcoHealth / Wuhan origins of nCoV almost as soon as it was being reported as a serious threat. To this day, their massive body of work is constantly used -- used as bombshell new headlines by yellow journalism types who don't cite or credit their work at all. This is something altogether different. There is a lot of buy-in from major media orgs and professional provocateurs like "Intellectual Dark Web" nerd / spy Eric Weinstein.

So, if real, this points towards NIH being targeted, or at least cut loose from the halo of protection, by some faction of the military industrial apparatus. Long term, even though Congressional inquiries are cheap show trials and empty noise, Fauci is turning out to be reliable red meat for the GOP base and the GOP is going to sweep the shit out of 2022 mid-terms. It is plausible that Fauci will actually go down for his craven malfeasance and cynical media manipulation.

This alleged document is either the beginning of that process or an inoculation against it, Alistair McAlpine style.

MVP post. And the suspicion is upped by more than a few oddly blithe comments that seem to parrot punditry. Ala "masks dont work" - regardless what one thinks of the statement - is offered as some sort of taken for granted given which contradicts numerous other intel documents we've seen. This is in addition to touting Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine (both of which I agree are more likely than not relatively effective treatments sullied for political reasons) nonchalantly as known cures which makes it seem written specifically as red meat for a certain angry base. Interesting to see Interferon mentioned though as it gets very little discursive play these days.

[Marionumber1]

This alleged investigation by Maj. Joe Murphy could very well be real, and is pretty elaborate if it is a fake, but I feel like the amount of information which is actually new is limited. Most of this report is an analysis of the HR00118S017 proposal by EcoHealth Alliance which DRASTIC had already obtained, published, and analyzed back in September 2021. We know that a gain-of-function project sounding uncannily similar to COVID and conducted at the Wuhan lab was proposed to DARPA; the question is whether this project ended up happening anyway despite DARPA's rejection, and who funded it if so. To that end, Murphy's report only seems to have this rather vague and brief information early on:



Which would be bombshells if confirmed, but there are also some serious questions to be answered. Would Maj. Murphy be in a position to see US intelligence collections from the Wuhan lab that go into that much detail? I can't imagine such findings are made available to just anyone, and I'd want to know the process by which he obtained access to the information. As for DRASTIC, I'm curious what information they have indicating that the proposed DEFUSE project continued until April 2020. Have they released any of that publicly?

And where is the evidence that NIAID received and approved this DEFUSE proposal following the DARPA rejection? This is a critical claim, yet it is not footnoted at all or even explained where that information came from. I know that NIAID was supporting another EcoHealth project, "Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence", which was also doing gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at Wuhan. But this is research which had been happening since at least 2014, so it doesn't really fit with being a repackaged form of their DARPA proposal. Now, it wouldn't surprise me if EcoHealth was being shady about what they really did with their money, and it wouldn't surprise me if these two research projects were directly related to the same overall gain-of-function work. But this alleged report by Murphy is nevertheless making too strong of an unsourced claim in connecting NIAID to DEFUSE. Leaving out evidence as critical as that in what's meant to be a professional report is hard for me to understand.

Like liminalOyster, I am also suspicious about the gratuitous mentions of how mRNA vaccines and masks don't work while various popular alternative treatments like Ivermectin do. These matters are largely tangential to the issue of COVID's origin and, especially being as controversial as they are, I am not sure why they'd be in a report to DARPA's inspector general that was trying to persuade them to investigate.

[stickdog99]

HI, Joe!

How many active COVID cases are there in Australia right now? Do you have any idea?

If the trends continue, you will have more than 1 million active cases by tomorrow. Right now, roughly 1 in 26 people in Australia currently has COVID-19.

This is despite all of your vaunted Dr. Venture "super science" 92.6%+ overall (and 95.2% in NSW) over 16 double vaccination rate. And the localities with the highest vaccination rates (NSW and Victoria are both over 94% for residents over 16 and both have administer over 1 million boosters to date) are exactly the localities that are currently most infected.

And while NSQ and Victoria have simply stopped reporting their numbers, fewer than 10% of those hospitalized in SA have zero or one doses.

But your reaction to this is still "just not enough vaccination, boosters, masks, and lockdowns." And none of these data have so much as made you reevaluate a single one of Australia's authoritarian policies. Why? What would it take for you to ever even begin to question your stolid belief that every single thing your misleaders have done to ensure the current raging pandemic ripping through Australia was anything but unquestionably reasonable, wholly scientific common sense?

[MacCruiskeen]

"...more than 1 million active cases by tomorrow. Right now, roughly 1 in 26 people in Australia currently has COVID-19."

What is this "COVID-19" of which you speak? How is it identified? What are its unique symptoms? Who counts as a "case", and why, exactly? What does it mean to "have" it, if it doesn't even make most people sick? How, exactly, do we know that it even exists?

These are all rhetorical questions, of course. "COVID-19" is and always has been an obvious and blatant scam. That's why its advocates and defenders are now being called "psychotic": so that they can avoid being identified as toadies, dimwits, corrupt careeriists, and criminal liars.

[stickdog99]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1480 ... 45224.html

Looking at 10 MOST-VAXED states, and 10 LEAST-VAXED states, we see that comparing Year-of-Year % change, there is virtually NO DIFFERENCE...

Except that NOW, the 10 most-vaxed have nearly 400% HIGHER cases than last year, where 10 LEAST-vaxed, "only" up 112%.\



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The large difference (nearly 4x) b/n % increase in YoY cases b/n 10 most-vaxed & 10 least-vaxed may be explained by vaxes' negative efficacy (increased likelihood of infection) for omicron.

Neg efficacy means more vax = more cases--which we see.

https://twitter.com/TracyBethHoeg/statu ... 2634804224

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No doubt some will say that "well, more cases no big deal, so long as people are vaxxed, it protects from severe disease." Yes, but there are caveats.

The divergence in % changes in death in lower right, could be concerning.



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Vax rates in nearly every state are 90%+ for 65+; most 95-99% w/1 dose. The diff between single vax and double vax in 65+ is not likely due to some kind of late-budding anti-vax sentiments. It's likely due to bad rxns. ⬆️ spread means ⬆️ risk for these fragile people.

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Given repeated studies showing negative vax efficacy--immediately in the case of Omicron, the current push to vax everyone, even kids who are not at-risk, and previously infected, may well be putting elderly who are too fragile to get two doses at risk.



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If this were the case, these mandates, in addition to being ineffective, and morally reprehensible could also worsen the results for the most at-risk.

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Here are the cases and deaths/million for each of the 10 states of each kind, by year. It seems that the variant you get during your season, is what drives everything. South got screwed w/Delta, North got lucky w/Omicron (but unlucky w/alpha).

[stickdog99]

"...more than 1 million active cases by tomorrow. Right now, roughly 1 in 26 people in Australia currently has COVID-19."

What is this "COVID-19" of which you speak? How is it identified? What are its unique symptoms? Who counts as a "case", and why, exactly? What does it mean to "have" it, if it doesn't even make most people sick? How, exactly, do we know that it even exists?

These are all rhetorical questions, of course. "COVID-19" is and always has been an obvious and blatant scam. That's why its advocates and defenders are now being called "psychotic": so that they can avoid being identified as toadies, dimwits, corrupt careeriists, and criminal liars.

What do you mean? We have always been at war with good Germans.

[stickdog99]

This tweet has been flagged as MI$LEADING as it may cause sales to plummet.

[drstrangelove]

I get the feeling we are starting to see trickle down effects of a power struggle between the Military Industrial Complex institutions and World Economic Forum ones. The MIC must be thinking about what place they have in a world of globalised culture and little national identity. While the WEF crowd have been thinking about what happened to the roman senate's little game of cursus honorum once the farce of their 'republic' broke down and caesar crossed the rubicon. International finance has traditionally been close to the Navy per Anglo tradition(which is why the US has odd traditions like the Surgeon General being apart of the Navy), but switched their focus over to the Air Force ever since nukes came into play. Then the spy agencies kind of sit between the interplay of the military branches and the financial institutions. Though these days the NSA is heavily in play, and almost certainly are aligned with WEF interests. Which probably in turn pushes the legacy(Kinetic) spy agencies like the CIA to align closer with the MIC branches.

You can see it play out in the mediasphere. Corporate controlled media pushing the WEF agenda to the urban professional classes, while the MIC agenda is pushed through the independant grassroots - Joe Rogan, Alex Jones etc. Which isn't to say Rogan is a pawn, but his outlook naturally aligns with MIC interests. As does mine at this given moment, as the WEF from what I can gather are trying to achieve world harmony through a global totalitarianism of the multinational corporation.

But the WEF can't align the MICs of each national or intercontinental interest with their own, as what role does a globalised military serve if there is no enemy? The only solution would have to be an extraterrestrial threat. Which would be rather easy to make up since the war could happen in space. One big fictional Star Wars that we watch daily on the news.

Which makes me wonder about the whole UFO truther movement, and the suspects in it like Christopher Mellon. 'Outer Space" in general unites the interests of the Scientific, Military, and Economic institutions of this world. While also providing the mystique for a new secular spirituality.

The only future I can see in which the WEF and MIC unite in a totalitarian agenda is a wag the dog Star Wars. Imagine the wealth they could suck out of this world to build themselves an Elysium.

[MacCruiskeen]

This tweet has been flagged as MI$LEADING as it may cause sales to plummet.

The EMA is the EU agency responsible for the evaluation and supervision of medicinal products. Notice how timidly, defensively and ineffectually they respond to the ferocious profiteering of Pfizer et al. It shows where the real power now lies..

[stickdog99]

Higher per 100,000 case rates all over the USA and Europe are strongly correlated with higher vaccination rates.

But please trust us that there is absolutely nothing to see here folks. All this means is that more COVID-19 cases cause more vaccinations.

Please persist in your total blind faith that had we not forced everybody to get vaccinated, it would have been far, far worse. The Father Pfizer, the Son Moderna, and the Holy Fauci work in mysterious ways!

[Joe Hillshoist]

HI, Joe!

How many active COVID cases are there in Australia right now? Do you have any idea?

Yep shitloads. It was over 1 in 30 people the other day. But i know quite a few people who have had it (opr something), had positive RAT tests and not reported anything. So its probably higher.

If the trends continue, you will have more than 1 million active cases by tomorrow. Right now, roughly 1 in 26 people in Australia currently has COVID-19.

Good. The sooner the better. This is an endemic, mostly harmless virus now. The sooner the population get used to it the sooner we can get on with our lives. Plus most of us are vaccinated so its also a lot less harmful than it was.

This is despite all of your vaunted Dr. Venture "super science" 92.6%+ overall (and 95.2% in NSW) over 16 double vaccination rate. And the localities with the highest vaccination rates (NSW and Victoria are both over 94% for residents over 16 and both have administer over 1 million boosters to date) are exactly the localities that are currently most infected.

And? Its basically a different virus now. You sound like the people who claim we need boosters to deal with this so we stop infections. Are you aware of that? (Or anything? Of yourself for example?)

And while NSQ and Victoria have simply stopped reporting their numbers, fewer than 10% of those hospitalized in SA have zero or one doses.

Interesting. Fewer than 10% of those living in SA also have zero or one dose. What do you think this means?

But your reaction to this is still "just not enough vaccination, boosters, masks, and lockdowns."

Is it? Can you quote me saying that? Go on - find me calling for boosters for everyone. I dare you.

Or mandates.

Also find me calling for more lockdowns now. You can't and the reason is its too late now. Its out there and we would need an impossible level of restrictions on movement to stop it. Plus its Omicron. Its basically harmless.

I don't even own a cloth mask but I'm gonna buy a scarecrow outfit like the guy in Wizard in Oz so I can put it on when responding to your comments.

BTW - NSQ ... Is that New South Queensland. If so well done. If not ... oh well....

And none of these data have so much as made you reevaluate a single one of Australia's authoritarian policies. Why? What would it take for you to ever even begin to question your stolid belief that every single thing your misleaders have done to ensure the current raging pandemic ripping through Australia was anything but unquestionably reasonable, wholly scientific common sense?

I dunno who you are talking about here but it isn't me.

None the less I'm not wasting my time telling you what I really think about this because I've come to the conclusion you're a bit of an idiot.

If you weren't so like the people you whinge about we would have had a productive, nuanced discussion but you're more like these people blaming the unvaccinated for the Omicron wave. Can't have a reasonable discussion with them either. You don't do nuance, or calm assessment of things or whatever.

I like that you think I have faith in my leaders tho. That makes one of us. (Goes to show you haven't actually read anything I've said either, just seen the first line and replaced it with whatever transference bullshit you've got in your head.)

I like drugs and messing with my nervous system too so I'm not gonna judge you for getting high on that outrage rush. (The same one we constantly see with "wokesters" on twitter. I get it, you're having fun...)

Anyway none of this takes away from the fact that that graph is misleading and inaccurate and tries to give the impression that the huge number of cases we have now happened even tho we were in lockdown when they happened after we'd ended all the lockdowns and even the requirement for masks indoors (good thing cos I don't own one.)

IE Its a lie.

You're happy to keep promoting it even tho you now know its not an accurate picture of the situation.

Certain vital information has been left out. Like the CDC saying kids with Covid are more likely to get diabetes when in fact the data actually shows kids are more likely to get covid and diabetes based on their socio economic circumstances and either way the chance of it is really fucken low. (Notice that vital information is left out there too. The CDC isn't interested in linking those disadvantaged by the US system with serious systemic illness.)

LOL - you're both promoting bullshit.

See how I'm supporting the CDC and their authoritarian stance on things.

Must drive a freedom fighter like you wild.

[stickdog99]

[stickdog99]

Joe, do you have any actual evidence that vaccination protects you in any way from omicron?

[drstrangelove]

Size of construction site for Victoria's quarantine camp which opens next month:



The person running it will Emma Cassar, former commissioner of the Victorian Prison system.

Emma has worked within Corrections Victoria and the Corrections System for more than 20 years in a range of roles, starting as a Forensic Psychologist after she finished her clinical doctorate and then moving to the custodial environment. She managed several prisons across the state and acted as Director and Deputy Commissioner on several occasions.

- https://theorg.com/org/department-of-ju ... mma-cassar

Australian prisons have been for the most part contracted to the company G4S for staffing. A very long time ago G4S used to be a called a company which should be familiar to many on this board, fucking Wackenhut.