Sears Tower, again

[isachar]

This just in:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060623/ap_on_re_us/terrorism_investigation">news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060...estigation</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Official: 7 arrested in Sears Tower plot By KELLI KENNEDY, Associated Press Writer<br> 9 minutes ago<br> <br><br><br>Seven people were arrested Thursday in connection with the early stages of a plot to attack Chicago's Sears Tower and other buildings in the U.S., including the FBI office here, a federal law enforcement official said.<br><br>As part of the raids related to the arrests, FBI agents swarmed a warehouse in Miami's Liberty City area, using a blowtorch to take off a metal door.<br><br>The official told The Associated Press the alleged plotters were mainly Americans with no apparent ties to al-Qaida or other foreign terrorist organizations. He spoke on condition of anonymity so as not to pre-empt news conferences planned for Friday in Washington and Miami.<br><br>Miami U.S. Attorney R. Alexander Acosta said in a statement that the investigation was an ongoing operation and that more details would be released Friday.<br><br>"There is no imminent threat to Miami or any other area because of these operations," said Richard Kolko, spokesman for FBI headquarters in Washington. He declined further comment.<br><br>Residents living near the warehouse said the men taken into custody described themselves as Mulims and had tried to recruit young people to join their group, which seemed militaristic.<br><br>The residents said FBI agents spent several hours in the neighborhood showing photos of the suspects and seeking information. They said the men had lived in the area about a year.<br><br>The men slept in the warehouse, said Tashawn Rose, 29. "They would come out late at night and exercise. It seemed like a military boot camp that they were working on there. They would come out and stand guard."<br><br>She talked to one of the men about a month ago: "They seemed brainwashed. They said they had given their lives to Allah."<br><br>Rose said the men tried to recruit her younger brother and nephew for a karate class.<br><br>"It was weird," she said.<br><br>Gov. Jeb Bush was briefed on the situation Thursday, according to his spokeswoman, Alia Faraj.<br><br>"We have great confidence in the federal, state and local law enforcement agencies who are committed to keeping our country safe," Faraj said.<br><br>She added that there has been greater communication between state and federal agencies since the 2001 terror attacks.<br><br>The 110-floor Sears Tower is the nation's tallest building. Its skydeck was closed for about a month and a half after the Sept. 11 attacks.<br><br>Several terrorism investigations have had south Florida links. Several of the Sept. 11 hijackers lived and trained in the area, including ringleader Mohamed Atta, and several plots by Cuban-Americans against Fidel Castro's government have been based in Miami.<br><br>Jose Padilla, a former resident once accused of plotting to detonate a radioactive bomb in the U.S., is charged in Miami with being part of a support cell for Islamic extremists. Padilla's trial is set for this fall.<br><br>___ <br><br>Associated Press Writer Mark Sherman in Washington, D.C., contributed to this report<br><br><br>Sears Tower was reported to be a possible target on 911.<br><br>Again, South Florida. Hopsicker is on to something. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=isachar>isachar</A> at: 6/22/06 8:35 pm<br></i>

[xsic bastardx]

<br> First off....these guys were busted at a Masonic Lodge....<br> This is a total sham. I have been sitting here all day watching this come thru the wires. It doesn't add up...<br> Senior officials are saying some of these guys took oaths to (ci)al qaeda. Then they got FBI guys on the scene saying they have no connection to them because they have known who they were.....<br> They had a friend of one of the guys on, said that one of the guys was "offered money to blow stuff up....."<br> Sears Tower Cops didnt even know what was going on and thier official statement said..."no credible threat".<br> Why were these guys busted? It just seems a little odd......<br> Once again, they were busted in a masonic lodge. <p></p><i></i>

[greencrow0]

Isn't this the case that was connected with Prosecutor Fitzgerald because the building was where the grand jury was hearing evidence last summer?<br><br>GC <p></p><i></i>

[Et in Arcadia ego]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Once again, they were busted in a masonic lodge.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Huh? Where did you see that at? I grew up in Miami, and I can't say 100%(obviously), but Liberty City's not known for it's Masons..That's like Miami's gutter; it's a major ghetto. <p></p><i></i>

[steve vegas]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Isn't this the case that was connected with Prosecutor Fitzgerald because the building was where the grand jury was hearing evidence last summer?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I'm pretty sure Skolnick had a theory about that. don't remember the specific details. <p></p><i></i>

[yathrib]

From the description of these people, shoe bomber Richard Reed and freelance nutball Zacarias Moussaoui are more typical than are the supermen alleged to have perpetrated 9/11. Imagine recruiting neighborhood kids for your Islamic Death Cult! <br><br>Another interesting thing: The emphasis on "homegrown terrorists." Now it's okay to spy on AMericans, since they're just as dangerous as the Little Foreign Brown People. And how convenient that this should come out just as people begin to realize the true extent of Bush admin. spying on U.S. citizens. <p></p><i></i>

[AlanStrangis]

for et in Arcadia Ego:<br><br>Just shy of the two minute mark in this Anderson Cooper bit...<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlcw7de4lBg">CNN on YouTube</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>! <br><br>EDIT: In this clip, it also mentions that one of those arrested at the Lodge, Nasir Baptiste, goes by the name of Prince Manner, and is an elder at the Lodge. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=alanstrangis>AlanStrangis</A> at: 6/25/06 4:31 pm<br></i>

[*]

<br> am I the only one who was unaware that: <br><br> <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.realestatejournal.com/propertyreport/newsandtrends/20040312-starkman.html">Two investors who are part of Larry Silverstein's group that owns the World Trade Center lease are among the buyers of the Sears Tower, which MetLife Inc. agreed to sell Thursday for more than $800 million, according to people familiar with the situation.</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=1tal>1 tal</A> at: 6/25/06 5:18 pm<br></i>

[AlanStrangis]

Interesting note about Silverstein investors buying the Sears Tower. I wonder what the insurance policy would be...<br><br>Curiouser and curiouser...<br><br>About 2:45 into the Anderson Cooper video, I find it interesting that there's an interview with a man named Master G.H.G. Athea, one of the suspect's friends, saying that he (the suspect) was approached by some men who offered <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>...some funds, to do whatever he wanted to do, if that's what he wanted to do, as for some subversive work. They said they'd give him whatever he needed... but that was far from his mind so he had no desire to interact with these men, to accept anything they had to offer.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>EDIT: BTW, it's worth noting that they lost the feed as soon as Master Athea proclaimed the group's innocence, and Cooper points out that this raises more questions than answers...<br><br>At first the Sears Tower case was sounding like another red herring (I guess the Terror Threat Levels aren't as effective as they were in the 2004 election cycle). It still could be, but now I wanna know who these "money men" were, and more about the sale of the Sears Tower. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=alanstrangis>AlanStrangis</A> at: 6/25/06 5:21 pm<br></i>

[juno jones]

There are masonic temples in black neighborhoods. I'm pretty sure the whole thing originally grew out of segregation, blacks not being allowed in the 'white' halls, and I've also heard that ritual and hierarchies are VERY different. I doubt they have any connection with 'illuminati' type-lodges...if you saw one you'd understand what I'm talking about. If they're part of a glamorous world wide conspiracy to control all wealth, they must be getting gypped. They generally serve as neighborhood meeting places, not unlike a grange hall and are often rented out to other groups for meetings, weddings, social events, etc ...Perhaps this group was sort of a moorish-masonic hybrid. Doesn't sound like they were doing much besides talking, but it reminds me a lot of the infiltration of the panthers in the '60's, where some FBI dude would come in and talk smack until he got others doing it then everyone would be arrested for conspiracy for parroting said smack.<br><br>However, this situation does smell. Whether the attack happened or not, regardless of the outcome of these arrests, etc, It convienently set up a bunch of scary memes that people will instinctively freak out about without checking the facts , like masonry, muslims, black power revolutionaries, etc. Kane was right, George Bush DOESN"T like black people. My guess is we will be seeing more intimidation like this. And the 'sears tower' thing. Hmmph. It's all becoming a bad bond film where the villian is going to make his mark by felling the world's tallest buildings. Gahhh. Thanks for following the money guys, gives a lot of room for speculation...maybe these poor guys wouldn't rise to the bait so they got 'removed from play'?.. <p></p><i></i>

[xsic bastardx]

<br><br> It may have been a renovated Masonic Lodge but it was a lodge. The reporter from CNN was standing in front of it, talking about it and you could see and old sign in some of the footage. I know, it erked me to but thanks to TiVo I got to look at it a few times. High Weirdness. <p></p><i></i>