If I didn't know this, maybe you do, but did you know

[yesferatu]

that that fireman that is standing next to Bush at the scene of The Crime...you know, Bush has the bullhorn and he is playing his part of excited cheerleader in the midst of death and destruction all around.....and there is this, uh, fireman, who up till now I did not want to say anything, but his body posture and smile actually made me more disgusted and sick than seeing and hearing Bush beat his chest....yeah that "fireman"....did anyone know he was a PAID FOR ACTOR to be there for the moment??? Is this old news? I guess I should wait for confirmation. I thought someone could help me here at RI to confirm this. I really want this to be true, because I will be honest....seeing that idiot really enraged me for some reason....there was just something REALLY wrong about his presence. And if it turns out he is a fire chief, or something, oh well, it is how I feel. Something was wrong there. And if it IS a paid actor, then I have actually hit a new low in how disgusted and out of words I am for this nightmare.<br>I will just be honest. I had something akin to revulsion for the guy when I saw him up there. Hands on hips and gleeful smile. Fuck. I never knew why. Since I have said that, won't I look real bad if he is a fire chief? Like I say, oh well. I will maintain that his presence there was unsettling and seeing the pictures still pisses me off, regardless if he is a fireman. BUT I will bet a day's salary on paid actor. I have no link. Bartcop claims it. He provided no link, so I didn't know what kind of search to try. Thought someone here would know. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=yesferatu@rigorousintuition>yesferatu</A> at: 8/22/06 10:52 pm<br></i>

[JD]

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2001-09/658493.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>As rescue efforts continue in the rubble of the World Trade Center, President Bush puts his arms around firefighter Bob Beckwith while standing in front of the World Trade Center debris during a tour of the devastation.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Not likely he's an actor as identified by name but hey sometimes "you just can't make this shit up".<br><br>As per the fireman's goofy smile, sometimes still shots catch images which are incongruent with the larger moment. Hard to say if it is fully indicative of the fireman's feelings. <p></p><i></i>

[nomo]

As far as I know, Beckwith's a retired firefighter:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/07/cnn25.beckwith.tan/index.html">www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/07...index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>And Bartcop is a tequilla addled nitwit who NEVER sources anything he posts. And he's not funny to boot.<br><br>I suggest you spend a few minutes on Google before you get your panties all in a bunch.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[yesferatu]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I suggest you spend a few minutes on Google before you get your panties all in a bunch.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I need a second and third source to believe he was a fireman and not a paid actor. <br>Not believing bartcop over...........um, CNN<br>.....but......<br>And sorry. I think his mannerisms were preposterous. It was disgusting. I could give a rat's ass if he was a fireman. <br>Who is gleefully smiling with fists on hips amidst something like that? <br>If he was a fireman, I hope he gets mental help.<br>Sorry. His act next to Bush pissed me off. So I am quite ready to believe it was a paid for actor. <br>I need a source other than cnn before I let this rest.<br>And the reason I did not use Google is I thought asking at RI would be quicker than typing in fireman+9/11 on Google.<br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[anotherdrew]

paid actor? no... it's... jeff gannon in makeup!<br><br>no but what's odd is, HE'S SHORTER THAN BUSH<br>and bush isn't too tall to begin with <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

Another example of Bush getting a good feel...of a male. Not that I really care if he's gay, just that he's a hypocrite. Scheeze, it's not like I'm married to the stupid bastard. Poor Laura. <p></p><i></i>

[yesferatu]

I found <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessage?topicID=5814.topic">this</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> on the Ghost Troops thread started by Dreams End. It appears C. May has this to say regarding the fireman:<br><<Incidentally, the date 4/16 (Easter Sunday) is interesting because it sums to 11, and because it contains the same numbers as the 164 in the fireman's hat in the famous <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>(staged) picture</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> of Bush in the rubble of the Twin Towers.<br><br>It's also interesting because 4/16 (this year) is the same number as the 4/19 (2004) attempt reported on the Sears Tower -- if you "flip the 9 into a 6, which is a numerological trick, called the "rotational six."<br><br>Finally, it's also interesting because if we take the 4/16 as a 4+1+6 (an 11), then we have an interesting result when we add in the "6" of the year: 11/6. Again, the "rotational 6" that can flip to be a "9," giving us 11/9 -- a reverse 9/11!<br><br>Folks laugh about the number games until they reflect that the most recent 9/11 reversals on the calendar were the Jordon bombings of 11/9 and the Bin Ladin threat tape of 1/19. The Illuminati work behind the scenes, and the Ignorati tell themselves that it just can't be so!<br>>><br><br> <p></p><i></i>