WTC Power Down

by **whipstitch** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:23 pm

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJmcvTzYfo">www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJmcvTzYfo</a>

by **FourthBase** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:53 pm

I wonder if there are others like Scott Forbes who could testify to the power down. There must have been other people there that weekend, other people that are still alive.

by **Avalon** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:21 pm

Observe the story of Sakhera Hammad. When Sakhera Hammad was arrested, investigators found a visitor's pass for the World Trade Center, dated Sept. 5, 2001, in his wallet. He told authorities he was a plumber who worked on the center's sprinkler system. <snip> When arrested, one of the men, Sakher "Rocky" Hammad, as already said, was carrying a WTC pass for Sept 5. He told police that he had been working on the sprinkler system. He showed them his business card: Magic Plumbing and Heating In a Memphis court on 3/28, Rocky's father, a NY City engineer, Mr. Peter Hansen (immigrated 15 years ago from Jordan), presented the court with a letter from Denko Mechanical, Ltd, signed by a Mr. Sergei Denko, stating that Rocky and Rocky's cousin had been doing work for his company in the basement and garage of the WTC on Sept 5 and 6. Rocky was released on $250,000 bail. The nature of the work was not specified. The Port Authority of New York claimed no knowledge of hiring a Denko Mechanical and said Denko must have been hired by a tenant. <snip> In addition to the WTC 9/5 pass, also found in Mr. Hammad's wallet at the time of arrest: two video rental cards, a credit card, a membership card for the New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, a card for Detectives Endowment Association of New York with a commemoration for 9/11 victims on it, and a charter membership card to Team Ford Racing. "...The NYC Patrolmen's Benevolent Assoc and Detectives Endowment Assoc of NY are both police unions -- Hammad was carrying cards for both, which would be union membership cards." The company he claimed to be working for at the WTC, Denko Mechanical, is NOT a licensed fire protection contractor in New York and therefore, by NYC law, could NOT touch any pipe or plumbing fixture connected to the building's sprinkler system: NYC administrative code 27-126. Only the building's licensed fire suppression (or protection) contractor can touch anything, any pipe, any valve, connected to the sprinkler system. <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=4822&forum=DCForumID43">www.democraticunderground...CForumID43</a> <a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?id=1521846767-303">www.cooperativeresearch.o...846767-303</a> Because Hammad is a US citizen now, the Memphis judge would not allow his continued detention nor any mention of the 9/11 coincidences at the Memphis drivers license fraud trial. The other defendants, not US citizens, remain in detention. <a href="http://blog.nettribe.org/index.php?module=Blog&action=ShowComment&eid=8b43b2fd1a4957e17744eef4e58ba6f5&bid=458b8494d82afeabd17a856bdc6e6676">blog.nettribe.org/index.p...6bdc6e6676</a>

by **FourthBase** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:40 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>In a Memphis court on 3/28, Rocky's father, a NY City engineer, Mr. Peter Hansen (immigrated 15 years ago from Jordan),<hr></blockquote> HUH? Sakher Hammad's father = Peter Hansen?

by **FourthBase** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:44 pm

<a href="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SakherHammad_WTC_9-11.html">www.whatreallyhappened.co..._9-11.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Hammad's Dad, who presented the letter that bailed him out, is Jordanian immigrant and reportedly senior engineer with the City of NY, Mr. Peter Hansen of 3187 Hylan Blvd on Staten Island. Reportedly Hammad has closer ties with his mother, still in Gaza/Jordan, than with his dad, but it's impossible to find her name.<hr></blockquote> Smells fishy. No, reeks fishy. BTW, I love the Rocky Hammad story, it's such a goldmine. You get Rocky himself, then Katherine Smith, then O.C. Smith...

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:49 pm

has haunted me for years. I've been wanting to write something about it for a while now, but it's still percolating. (The thing is, though, this is one of those mysteries that can percolate forever.) February 15, 2002  F.B.I. Says Arson Killed Woman Accused in License Scheme By REUTERS MEMPHIS, Feb. 14 — A deliberately set fire caused the death of a driver's license examiner who had been accused of illegally selling licenses to five Middle Eastern men who were being investigated for possible ties to terrorism, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has said. Gasoline was poured on the clothing of the examiner, Katherine Smith, before she burned to death on Sunday in an automobile accident, J. Suzanne Nash, an F.B.I. agent, said on Wednesday. Ms. Smith died one day before she was to have appeared in court with her five co-defendants after being arrested last week on charges of conspiracy to obtain driver's licenses illegally. In a federal court hearing here on Wednesday, Ms. Nash said an accelerant had been found in Ms. Smith's car, adding that her death was "not an accident." Investigators have said the gasoline tank of the automobile did not explode. Ms. Nash also said witnesses had reported that the interior of Ms. Smith's car was on fire before the vehicle struck a utility pole, causing just minor damage to the car. Ms. Nash told the court on Monday that the Federal Bureau of Investigation was looking into whether the five men who were arrested had ties to terrorist groups, citing connections to the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center. The five men, one of whom said he was a plumber at the trade center and had a visitor's pass to the towers dated Sept. 5, are being held without bond. A lawyer for one of the defendants has denied that they had any connection to terrorism and said they were seeking documentation to work in the United States. <a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/628435/posts">link</a>

by **FourthBase** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:24 pm

I'd love to see a post by you, Jeff, on the Rocky-Katherine Smith-OC Smith-Wiley thread of coincidences and anomalies. Re: Peter Hansen, the Memphis Commerical Appeal is the one that lists him as a senior city engineer for NY, and one would think that such a post would lead to some internet mentions. Nothing yet, though. The only Peter Hansens I've found so far are related to a company called Trinitech or the UN Relief and Works Agency, specifically a man in charge of Palestinian refugees, including ones in Jordan.

by **Infernal Optimist** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:26 am

Well, I'm not Jeff but: And in yet another strange twist, on March 14, a bomb and two smaller explosive devices were found at the Shelby County Regional Forensic Center, which houses the morgue and Medical Examiner's Office that conducted Wiley's autopsy. Dr. O.C, Smith, the medical examiner, told Memphis' Commercial Appeal, "We have done several high-profile cases from Dr. Wiley to Katherine Smith (a Department of Motor Vehicles employee mysteriously found burned to death in her car after being charged in a federal probe with conspiracy to obtain fraudulent drivers' licenses for men of Middle East origin) but there has been no indication that we offended anyone . . . we just don't know if we were the attended target or not."

by **Infernal Optimist** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:37 am

And this: One month later, the coroner (Dr. O.C. Smith) who examines her (Katherine Smith's) body is targeted by a bomb, which is defused. Then in June the coroner is attacked, bound with barbed wire, and left with a bomb tied to his body, but he survives. And this: One of the five, Khaled Odtllah, drove from New York City to Memphis on 9/11. And this: It appears that Khaled Odtllah of Cordova shared the same 2840 Morning Lake Drive address at different times over the past year with Rocky Hammad, according to an online people finder database Odtllah and Hammad also spent time in the Bay Ridge section of Brooklyn in 2000 and lived about 22 blocks apart near New York Harbor. Hammad's cousin, Abdelmuhsen Mahmid Hammad, also obtained a Tennessee driver's license last year. He's in the country illegally after overstaying a visa.  And then there's a rat's nest of stuff about fake VA drivers' licenses used by the 9/11 hijackers.

by **Avalon** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:20 pm

This is bothering me a lot. A lot. I looked for about 20 minutes yesterday, couldn't find anything more about Hammad and the resolution of the trial that he was involved with, let alone why becoming naturalized gives you an edge that should affect a trial about something before that event. This may be something where the human side might give up a lot more useful information than endlessly rehashiing the physics of free fall.

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:32 pm

This may be something where the human side might give up a lot more useful information than endlessly rehashiing the physics of free fall. Couldn't agree more, Avalon. This story's worth more than all the thermite in China.

by **bvonahsen** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:39 pm

Sounds to me like dealing with terrorists and helping them get fake IDs is pretty dangerous work. Gangs and mobsters also target witnesses just before they are to appear in court too. No big mystery there, thugs is thugs.

by **FourthBase** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:33 pm

Shall we tackle this angle, group-effort-like? Full-on amateur investigative persistence until we get some answers?

by **Sweejak** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:15 pm

Long thread at Freepers. <a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/703781/posts?q=1&&page=1#1">www.freerepublic.com/focu...&&page=1#1</a>

by **alice** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:20 pm

Dr. O.C. Smith ,the medical examiner was forced to resign and accused of wrapping himself in barbed wire and hanging a bomb round his own head .<a href="http://www.choicechanges.com/print.php?sid=538&MDPROSID=d5cadf80b8aaee67cef4cdff7aade154">www.choicechanges.com/pri...ff7aade154</a>

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