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Re: "Am I nuts or are these bastards INSANE?"

Postby Seventhsonjr » Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:32 pm

What is frightening to me is that too many of those close to me are succumbing to it either pyschologically or via illness and cancer.<br><br>The opposition is a fierce dragon of hate and necrophilic lust.<br><br>How to help the world survive for my children is my main concern too --- but it is eating us up daily ---- and when I see the horrors of New Orleans and now Texas (GOD that bus explosion just rips my heart apart, nevermind the rapes and the insanity in the superdome).<br><br>It really SMELLS like Auschwitz - only it is everywhere.<br><br>Right now I am dealing with particular stress from what I perceive as the self-destruction of a loved one succumbing to the physical and emotional stress of all of it and my heart is broken over it. And it appears there is nothing I can do.<br><br>Like watching a man who has given up hope and the blank stare of death in their eyes in the concentration camps (I have been reading much Primo Levy and other Holocaust literature lately) --- what can I do. What can I do?<br><br>Especially when they appear to have given up all hope.<br><br>Tragic and mindboggling. <p></p><i></i>
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You're reading Holocaust literature NOW??

Postby maggrwaggr » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:26 pm

Man, you're a glutton for punishment. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Sometimes i just have to walk away. Took a vacation a couple of weeks ago, actually during the hurricane. Sure felt good to be completely ignorant about what was going on (except for the gas prices). When I got back, man, it was like back to psycho-world. <br><br>I couldn't believe what I was seeing, and what I was hearing people saying.<br><br>The main thing that shocked me was that the right-wingers were actually coming out and SAYING OUT LOUD that the victims deserves it, were losers and worse. <br><br>I posted in another blog before the storm hit (and before my vacation) that that was their view of those who were going to die in the hurricane, but I sure didn't think they'd say it out loud.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: You got that right

Postby slimmouse » Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:04 pm

Knowledge is Power. <br><br> Seventh. You ever looked at the "global grid" as defined by the ancients, and checked out the locations of these Nuclear power stations ?<br><br> See if you can find anything, and in the meantime, think about this ;<br><br> Strange how all these guys (freemasons, S+B, illuminati ) pay homage to the ancients, particularly of Egypt huh ?<br><br> Strange how ALL the US presidents are directly related to the Royal families of Europe, who in turn are related back thousands of years huh ?<br><br> Strange how Prince Charles knows that talking to plants can improve their wellbeing huh ? ( see my thread - Has "official science" explained this yet )<br><br> Strange how all the ancient monuments, and particularly the Giza pyramid sit on many of MOTHER earths key leylines huh, and how mathematically encrypted within each of these monuments such as Stonehenge, and the Tikal pyramid in Peru ( using universal constants such as Pi ) are their EXACT locations in relation to the Giza pyramid huh ? <br><br> <br><br> Strange how Jesus knew that if you break a piece of wood, you would find him there, or if you lifted up a stone you would find him there. Kinda like all of us really. Think about where YOUR OWN sound /energy vibrations are dissipated the next time you speak or think. <br><br> I wonder how Jesus knew thousands of years ago, that which modern science is quietly coming to accept as reality ?<br><br> Strange how the Rothschilds chose the double tetrahedron, or the key to how energy works as their emblem on the family shield - Later known as the Star of David huh ?<br><br> Ever looked at the significance of 19.47 in relation to the above, or the key to how light works ?<br><br> Ever thought about the number 66.6 ?<br><br> "He who controls the past controls the present. He who controls the present controls the future" - 1984 - George Orwell.<br><br> Knowledge is power. Get the books out fast. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 9/23/05 6:09 pm<br></i>
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Re: Crazy or Not

Postby john darmy » Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:02 am

I'm struggling with a similar problem now. I started down the road less traveled about 30 years ago when I was in college and saw the Zapruder film for the first time. Since that time, I have been unable to turn my back on the truth. Unfortunately, I was placed under surveillance as a result of some newspaper articles I wrote about the JFK assassination, and since last year I have been targeted by government-sponsored gang stalking, mind control and electronic harassment that have basically ruined my life. I won't go into all the sordid details, but I can recommend a couple of web sites that describe this phenomenon: www.stopcovertwar.com and www.eharassment.ca. One of the goals of this insidious black op is to drive the target to commit suicide or at least appear crazy so he can be put on psychotropic drugs or institutionalized. Every aspect of your life is sabotaged so they can isolate you to the maximum extent possible. My family claims they don't believe me (I think they were forced to say that), so they demanded that I "get help." Since I am harassed so intensely at work, I decided to go ahead and see a shrink, hoping to qualify for disability. She immediately diagnosed me as "delusional" and put me on medication, but just like you, I know I'm not mentally ill. The criminally insane mass murderers who run the government are the ones who are mentally ill. There are thousands of political prisoners like me all over the world, and we desperately need to educate people about these police state tactics. If I had known my pursuit of the truth would result in this, I can't honestly say what I would have done. But at the time, I felt I had a moral obligation for the good of humanity to do everything I could to expose the problem. I wish there were more people like us out there, maybe we could stop the madness. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Crazy or Not

Postby slimmouse » Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:17 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>There are thousands of political prisoners like me all over the world, and we desperately need to educate people about these police state tactics. If I had known my pursuit of the truth would result in this, I can't honestly say what I would have done. But at the time, I felt I had a moral obligation for the good of humanity to do everything I could to expose the problem. I wish there were more people like us out there, maybe we could stop the madness<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->. <br><br> Nice to see you adopt the "fuck them" attitude John.<br><br> Nice to see you encouraging that attitude amongst those here who KNOW the truth.<br><br> At least I assume that is why you posted ? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Crazy or Not

Postby Seventhsonjr » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:46 pm

This is a quite interesting thread.<br><br>Slimmouse: Can you give me any leads or links on where to find these grids or nuke grids?<br><br>For me - I assume those who have read my stuff know that I tend to the highly spiritual and sometimes esoteric --- so I do tend to see these in archetypal conflicts between good and evil and creation vs. destruction.<br><br>I also am of the opinion that this "Maya" is all somewhat of a divine dreamstate subject to change at the drop of a hat.<br><br>I sometimes look at it as a kind of "Jumanji" game, a Buddhist riddle, or a morality test: what the hell are we supposed to do.<br><br>If you were in the death camps facing death and saw abuses of women and children by the guards would you take a moral stand even if it was fruitless and it meant imminent death?<br><br><br>As for the Holocaust stuff, Maggrwaggr --- perhaps I am a glutton for punishment --- BUT I do not think so.<br><br>As I have mentioned my father was involved in the operations of the Jewish and antiNazi underground in Europe and was a staunch antifascist his whole life. He was involved in an underground railroad rescuing antiNazi endangered from Hitler.<br><br>I am researching this for a book I am working on --- BUT the point is that the lessons of the Shoah (I prefer the tterm to Holocaust generally) are invaluable to understanding what the Bushes and their Fourth Reich are doing TODAY.<br><br>I also come from the same background as these bastards and so I have an insider's perspective with more knowledge of their "secrets" than most. Plus my father did intelligence work during WWII tracking nazis and nazi assets.<br><br>I always tell people that they MUST read "Der Fuhrer" and a "History of National Socialism" both written by Konrad Heiden, if they are to have any understanding of what is happening in America today.<br><br>YES, their methodology is to destroy the will of the opposition (which is every American citizen since we are the only ones with the possible voting power to stop them). It is pure and ugly treason.<br><br>Borne in the dawn of the Third Reich and blossoming into a 2000 year Fourth Reich run by Aryans like Bush, Rumsfeld, et al and using Jewish collaborators like Sharon, Netanyahu and Wolfowitz et al as the new Judenrat and the Israeli Army as the New Capos keeping Israel as the new warsaw ghetto, Jews surrounded by those who hate them and slowly being destroyed as the Aryans want them to be.<br><br>Since my father worked with the Jewish Underground and because I work with survivors and members of the resistance et al in my research and public appearances, I feel like I have somewhat of a handle on what they are doing.<br><br>Slimmouse: with respect to the power plants: my perspective is pretty simple, these men are the current antiChrist (allegorically or literally makes little difference to me as the title fits), the nuke pollution is designed to make us sick and reduce our numbers in the same way that conditions at Auschwitz cut the numbers to make room for new slaves who are healthier until they could be starved or diseased out of the extermination production line.<br><br>In the military handbooks it is called "casualty production".<br><br>That is what is happening here (globally) and it is in a crisis modality on both their ends and ours. A tipping point.<br><br>Things are desperate.<br><br>BUT for me there is always HOPE where there is knowledge of the Truth and Love for the Creation and the mother goddess earth.<br><br>Whether or not WE individually survive this thing, these events, at least if we remain faithful to the dream of love and truth and justice in the ultimate reality, then maybe we can achieve it, even if, like the Reverend Dr. ML King, I may not get there with you: the promised land awaits.<br><br>Keep the faith<br><br>and keep working.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Crazy or Not

Postby slimmouse » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:35 pm

Seventh.<br><br> Im sorry I dont have any links regarding the global energy grids, and the nuke power plants. Its just something I picked up from a very trustworthy source who has yet to sell me a bad one.<br><br> Perhaps a search on Global ley lines ,or US leylines might help, followed by a listing of US nuclear power plants ( if such information is available online ) given the threat of "Al Kayeeda" <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>my perspective is pretty simple, these men are the current antiChrist (allegorically or literally makes little difference to me as the title fits), the nuke pollution is designed to make us sick and reduce our numbers<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br> All I would actually add to this is the fact, that once we recognise, as Im sure you can, the fact that these people are the same crowd whove controlled us all through their bloodlines thru millenia, having given us "religion" - or restriction of knowledge for the masses, and have tried desperately to keep the secrets of the ancients for themselves, then make no mistake about it, If my source says that these power plants are strategically placed on these gridlines at key points, then I can practically rest assured that they are.<br><br> I will come back to you however , if I find out more - Sorry, not if - WHEN <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Crazy or Not

Postby Seventhsonjr » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:23 pm

Slimmouse says:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>All I would actually add to this is the fact, that once we recognise, as Im sure you can, the fact that these people are the same crowd whove controlled us all through their bloodlines thru millenia, having given us "religion" - or restriction of knowledge for the masses, and have tried desperately to keep the secrets of the ancients for themselves, then make no mistake about it, If my source says that these power plants are strategically placed on these gridlines at key points, then I can practically rest assured that they are</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>My conclusion is actually quite the opposite in fact: That these families are relatively new to the operations of fascism (only a few hundred years mostly) and that fascism as a modus operandi actually REJECTS ancient knowledge and wisdom in favor of total materialism with a bogus element of "magic" thrown in or just deviant necrophilisma s a totem to the idol of evil. Hitler, for example, and his use of the swastika and lighning bolts was all into the nordic gods and even, I suppose, the "sword of destiny" = death symbols -- NOT the symbols of light and power used by the ancient wise ones and initiates and CERTAINLY not those faithful to the Goddess (whether manifest today as Mary, Mary Magdalene, Artemis, Diana, Isis, Avaloka, or Maia).<br><br>They have rejected the ancient teachings for the worship of mammon, materialism, the annihilation of the spirit, and the destruction of EVERYTHING that equlas the truth and the light.<br><br>IF they happen to have aligned their power points and nuke plants (which i seriously doubt) with the ancient ones --- my guess is that it would be a total accident AND that if it were not it would only be for the purpose of maximizing their destructive abilities (which is really unnecessary since they already have that maximum power from the air).<br><br>The bottom line is that the Fourth Reich, the BFEE, Hitler, GHWBush, the Rockefellers, Morgans, Kerry. Clinton (the Skull and Bonesmen and their fascist lackies like Carter, the Clintons and their collaborators) ALL of these people are really really stupid assholes who have taken over the global monetary and political and military structure NOT out of any goodness or caring about humanity, BUT about lining their own pockets and getting their own penises (or whatever) satisied while enjoying the rituals of death known as Necrophilic lust and ghastly horrors of war and torture. They are sadistic imbeciles not unlike the morons in the Texas Chainsaw massacre (or whatever film where malformed imbeciles lust for blood). The reason they have been successful is that they are totally corrupt, they believe in the big lie, they keep secrets out of fear of being punished, and, like any other human beings, they keep it in the family so that under their theory of eugenics and darwinism and malthusian economics THEIR blood survives and inherits their blood money and the rest of ours (us) don't<br><br>They are NOT smart enough to integrate the ancient wisdom with their plans, except in so far as technically they control the tradespeople who design their works for them and can plot their own victory for an Aryan Reich lasting several millenia.<br><br>I grew up in this shit and am seriously ashamed of it. But I must tell you the truth.<br><br>These bastards are inbred and extremely stupid.<br><br>What's worse is that we are naive enough to let them get away with it and are too propagandized in the vast majority for us to do much about it.<br><br>First: becomenformed.<br><br>Next: inform others<br><br>Third: Resist<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Crazy or Not

Postby slimmouse » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:30 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>My conclusion is actually quite the opposite in fact: That these families are relatively new to the operations of fascism (only a few hundred years mostly) and that fascism as a modus operandi actually REJECTS ancient knowledge and wisdom in favor of total materialism with a bogus element of "magic" thrown in or just deviant necrophilisma s a totem to the idol of evil<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Is that so ? <br><br> What happens at Bohemia Grove on the 23rd July ?<br><br> What happens on the Egyptian Eastern Horizon on the 23rd July ?<br><br> 43 US presidents with direct bloodlines to the Charlemagne, Saxe coburg dynasty ?<br><br> Does that sound like the Mother of all conspiracies, worthy of further historical investigation or what ?<br><br> Lets be realistic here !<br><br> PS. Watch for Hilary in 2008. Have a look at her Bloodstock <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Crazy or Not

Postby marykmusic » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:58 pm

Ley lines: <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.leyman.demon.co.uk/" target="top">www.leyman.demon.co.uk/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Blue Grid (United States): <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.megspace.com/science/earthgrid/gift/bgusa.htm" target="top">www.megspace.com/science/earthgrid/gift/bgusa.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>These should help. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Crazy or Not

Postby AlicetheCurious » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:45 am

Innana, I had to go register on the EZBoard, something I've been resisting, just so I could respond to your post.<br><br>I live in the Middle East; last week, I met a French tourist here, who'd lived as an expat all over the world, and she said something that I found very insightful. She found Americans, almost robotic in their behaviour and opinions, which they seemed to be reciting for a camera rather than expressing their personal thoughts and opinions.<br><br>My mother was disconcerted when, at the end of their visit, her American son-in-law made a "thank-you" speech that was stilted and odd to her. But then, she doesn't watch much American tv, otherwise she'd have recognized it as the kind of speech they have in the last 5 minutes of most sitcoms, where everything is nicely tied-up and the music swells as everybody hugs.<br><br>It's like the cops who are unconsciously imitating tv cops, or the teenagers who imitate teenagers from sitcoms, or the way corporate American has taken all the components of human life (from religion to sex to friendship), processed them, and spewed them back in the form of things that are neither completely genuine, nor artificial. <br><br>Instead of food, we get "food products", like processed cheese and coke ("the real thing???"), that ice-cream with fake fat in it, meat in the supermarkets that is too red, milk that is too white, almost like white paint. From Disney's sterile "Jungle Land" to Bush's speeches, to the "news" to "reality" tv, Americans are bombarded with a world-view that is psychotically divorced from reality.<br><br>Americans are told that they live in a democracy, even while that democracy is eroded beyond recognition by Dieboldt voting machines, the Patriot Act(s), corporate censorship of the public discourse and a government that claims to represent ordinary citizens while bleeding them dry to benefit the interests of the super-rich. A "land of the free" that runs international "gulags" where prisoners are routinely tortured and deprived of their human rights, and where ordinary citizens increasingly fear to speak their minds.<br><br>By a huge margin, the US has the largest GDP in the world, around US$ 11.7 trillion, but in terms of quality of life, it ranks 10th in the world. Its per capita GDP ranks 4th in the world (after the tiny British Virgin Islands and Luxembourg, and Norway), so we're talking about a LOT of money, but only 22nd among developed countries in terms of healthy life expectancy at birth and SECOND in terms of child poverty. I could go on, but you can check for yourself at the website: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nationmaster.com.">www.nationmaster.com.</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>So how much of this is part of the national discourse? Does anyone ask why the US is "the greatest country on earth"? If nobody is asking, why aren't they? <br><br>So, why exactly is the US occupying Iraq? To save Iraqis? Has anyone asked Iraqis what THEY want?<br><br>According to FAIR, check their website, it's excellent (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2469):">www.fair.org/index.php?page=2469):</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"But most Iraqis want the U.S. military out of their country -- pronto. As Newsweek reported in its Jan. 31 edition: "Now every major poll shows an ever-larger majority of Iraqis want the Americans to leave." Yet we hear that U.S. troops must stay for the good of the Iraqi people -- even though most of those people clearly want U.S. troops to leave. (Are we supposed to believe that Americans know better than Iraqis whether American troops should stay in Iraq?)<br><br>To paper over such illogic, a media-stoked myth tells us that getting out of Iraq is a notion remaining outside the boundaries of what the U.S. public could take seriously. Most politicians and pundits insist that it's off the table."<br><br>Forgive me for going on and on, but what I'm trying to say is that "normal" for Americans is looking more and more like "psychotic" to those who cling to rationality and the facts. In such a context, if you are a thoughtful, informed individual, it's natural that you would feel somewhat isolated and wonder if you're the crazy one. But first, please decide for yourself if it's crazy to ask the questions, or is it crazy to avoid answers because they don't conform to the programme?<br><br>I guess you're faced with a choice -- you can lobotomize yourself, either by dumbing yourself down and stifling your curiosity or by taking "your" meds, or you can choose to be alive in the truest sense: welcoming the pain and the sadness, because if you numb one part you numb all of yourself and become incapable of joy as well. Instead of who you are, you get something else: a "processed" person, sort of like "processed cheese food", part of the Pepsi Generation. <br><br>Please, if you want to stay sane, seek out other sane people, avoid brainwashed individuals who refuse to face uncomfortable facts, and KEEP AWAY FROM THOSE MEDS. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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ley lines and Charlemagne

Postby Seventhson » Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:11 am

Mary <br><br>Could you maybe explain your perspective on these lines and why the powers that be might want to put nukes on them?<br><br>Also --- re: the Charlemagne stuff---<br><br><br>Lots of people claim descendancy from Charlmagne and everybody is related somehow. But that is different in my estimation from the claim that this is somehow a single family line problem (tyhese fascists).<br><br>Sure the Anglo German wasp lines are interrelated. But my point is that the current trends in fascist necrophiulia and eugenics, this lust for global war and death, is relatively a new phenomenon and the families who "came of age" into it with eugenics and malthusian darwinism -- Aryanism --- to justify their evil deeds, is also relatively new.<br><br>The twentieth century gave rise to a new form of such evil in its worst incarnation as Naziism and spawned a new approach to global imperialism , i.e. global fascism.<br><br>Prior to the 1900's this was not quite yet possible on such a massive scale --- that is it was not possible for its evil to be spread to every cranny and nook of the earth.<br><br>With the nuclear age the pollution went global, the plans for death and culling the herd went global and the idealogy was born anew under a new form of totalitarian capitalism as corporate fascism.<br><br>Before this the plans were regional and focussed on particular regions where there were resources and exploitable goods etc.<br><br>I agree that the general principle is the same and the anglo-german wasp aryan idealogy of a small number of families is too. But these new incarnations of evil and their modus operandi and who they let play and rule has changed.<br><br><br>As far as the egyptian and bhemia dates mentioned above and their significance - please enlighten me.<br><br>My point is hat the true esoteric knoweldge of spiritual initiates is NOT at work here. What we have is a bogus mumbo jumbo ibn skull and bones etc which is merely an excuse or justification for mass murder and criminal theft on a global scale.<br><br>That is what the skull and bones mean: that NOTHING is permanent and so EVERYTHING must be all about getting what you can steal NOW: this is the skull credo.<br><br>It is nothing but the worship of mammon, the acquisition of filthy lucre and surfeit, and the worship of necrophilic lusts as the highest goal of the powerful from the WASP ruling families.<br><br>Thye PRETEND to have clues about the mysteries of Egypt etc., but their rituals and their fruits are rotten and meaningless.<br><br>They MEAN nothing.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ley lines and Charlemagne

Postby marykmusic » Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:20 am

I asked Dragon to write on this subject, Jr, and it deserves its own thread.<br><br>I don't want to hijack Inanna's heartfelt, poignant subject matter and these informative responses. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>
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'they PRETEND to have clues about...'

Postby rain » Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:27 am

Oh dear !!!<br> <p></p><i></i>
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"In plane site" etc 9-11 and disinfo questions for

Postby darkbeforedawn » Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:44 am

Good for you sm if you really got that many converts... Did you rent a movie house or something? For my part, I have gone around giving all my friends copies of "Waking up From Our Nightmare" by Don Paul and Jim Hoffman. Now I am very p.o. because it seems common consensus that this guy Jim is really a disinfo agent... interested to hear your take on this. Haven't seen In Plane Site, but would like to soon. BTW how did everyone find out that Jim Hoffman is a fraud. I don't know who to believe anymore.... <p></p><i></i>
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