by eroeoplier » Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:07 pm
<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Besides collectivism and related loss of personal freedom, most attacks by lucid libertarians are on the central banking (debt money at interest, income tax of the middle & working classes & inflationary taxes) support of the state, which (to them) reveals the facade of who really controls the state<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Well if lucid libertarians are interested in attacking the debt money system, I'm interested in talking with lucid libertarians. I'm a relative newcomer re. discovering The Greatest Swindle in the History of the World - privatised central banking - so I haven't quite got my head around it all yet. If LLs can see behind the facade, don't they, like me, see nothing but private interest? Private interests who, never so clearly than as in the case of America, have set the tax system up in concert with the debt money system so that they are assured payment for the money they so graciously invent for the use of the public? Private interests who at every turn are intent on undermining the attempts of private citizens to unite to form mutually beneficial arrangements in order to cater for their needs?<br><br>Muslims are against usury. I don't know how that works. The way I see it (just now), money needs to have a cost, in order to discourage an overproduction of it, and encourage its wise use. The only thing wrong with the current system is that it was privatised at the outset.<br><br>[If you believe in the freedom of private individuals to join together in mutually beneficial arrangements, then ipso facto, you must "believe" in some form of "government." I think I've said elsewhere, the public/private juxtaposition is a false dichotomy. They are in no way mutually exclusive. When you join with a group, you agree to be "governed," it doesn't really matter whether it's considered to be "public" or "private." In one sense, all activity in the world can be considered to be "private" - individual people make both history and government policy, whether they do it as part of a group or not. And all activity (private activity too) can (should) be thought of as having a link to "government policy," because in reality, the most "private" of mutually beneficial arrangements are a form of government.] <br><br>Who would claim that if all the private individuals of a nation knew the truth of the matter, they would choose to pay interest + capital to a private institution, and have payments extracted in the form of income tax to pay off "government debt," rather than instead have the government create its own money, and have the interest payments people make on loans contribute to general revenue, which is then used to pay for other mutually agreed projects?<br><br>The Greatest Swindle in the History of the World.<br><br>See it here:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4991544789166784731&q=The+Money+Masters&pl=true/">video.google.com/videopla...s&pl=true/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Buy the dvds here:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.themoneymasters.com/">www.themoneymasters.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>