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robert: which running man are you thinking of?

Postby glubglubglub » Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:18 pm

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oops, got me

Postby robertdreed » Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:20 pm

I was thinking of the flick "Marathon Man."<br><br>A correction is in order. <br><br>"Wrong movie", indeed...I just edited that message. <br><br>Apologies, slimmouse. The error was all mine. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 10/15/05 5:23 pm<br></i>
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Re: oops, got me

Postby Quentin Quire » Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:26 pm

The relationship between Arnie and movies which carry an innate conspiracy theme is an interesting one though.<br><br>It's strange to consider that the Governor of California played a construction worker turned freedom fighter turned spy in 'Total Recall', based on Philip K Dick's novel. Shades of MK-Ultra mind control run rampant in Dick's work.<br><br>Some interesting esoteric connections exist there, charting Arnies roles from Conan, Terminator etc in terms of social and psychic policy.<br><br>Whoah - got a little James Shelby Downard there for a moment ...<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: oops, got me

Postby Dreams End » Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:04 pm

Inanna, <br><br>this is just me providing context. I may look over the site more carefully, but a guy named "Zundel" who links to a site that looks like another site that is openly anti-Semitic and is hosted by the same company as the linked site just gives you a heads up that that smell, in Denmark, is indeed something rotten. You can obviously check out the site yourself...my theory is simply that his more blatant site got too well known for what it was. this is a typical pattern...put out blatant stuff, get called on it...put out more sophisticated stuff with a broader mix of articles including many we'd all agree with. <br><br>Maybe all just a coincidence, though Mr. Zundel didn't seem to mind that I made the association.<br><br>By the way, I've been waiting for this guy to start posting here since I saw a post in the comments section of the blog from a "Justice, Inc." I thought perhaps Justice Inc and Judicial Inc were the same person...or maybe twins! <p></p><i></i>
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Ok, thanks DE

Postby Inanna » Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:36 pm

I guess I am just not "with it" when it comes to this stuff. I only recently learned there was a board called Storm Front. I don't know much about this kind of stuff, but you all seem to, so I'll take your word for it and maybe someday I will get it. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Taking our word for it

Postby robertdreed » Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:39 pm

Now, don't do that, Inanna...think for yourself. <br><br>But it's worth considering what other people say on a subject, especially if they've been at it longer than you. <p></p><i></i>
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justice-inc., judicial-biz.inc, etc.

Postby proldic » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:48 am

I can't find it in the RI archives right now,<br>but I remember posting some stuff about the guy who runs juducial-inc.biz a month or two ago. He's a frequently-sited favorite of Rense, WRH, Kaminski, Makow, and the lot, and imo one of the main agents -- ahem "opinion leaders" -- pushing the game forward intentionally. I'll try to dig it up, bottom line I found from his own website: <br><br>He's CIA all over, Operation Phoenix veteran, I've seen all sorts of choice quotes from him showing his hand. <br><br>This guy's thinly-veiled existence PROVES that this [Zionist 5th-column-subverts-our-otherwise-relatively-decent-government, 'Blame the Jews', misportraying the role of Israel in the NWO, -- whatever you want to call it] propaganda is coming from the intelligence apparatus and is a concerted "astro-turf" grass-roots effort led by current and former US/UK intel agents...<br><br>[<< fact/opinion>>] in the overall service of a giant conspiracy intent on push-pulling us to Capitalist global government a/k/a a variant of Gross' "friendly fascism" (at least for the Euro-US). For the rest it's 1 in 3 must die-off.<br><br>Check out his site, it's very popular and has been linked to multiple times before from this board. It's chilling. And if you're not chilled by it to some degree, YOU'RE A NAZI. Also, f<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> or my own paranoid reasons which I shall keep to myself, I believe him or associates of his have posted here before.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: justice-inc., judicial-biz.inc, etc.

Postby Dreams End » Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:08 pm

Given that one of Richard Earley's obsessions is "cowardice" of Jews during wartime, it would be ironic, wouldn't it, if he were posting here but not man enough to admit who he is and what he's actually trying to say. That couldn't be the case, could it? That Richard Earley would be too chickenshit to put this stuff out there directly? Not like he needs anonymity for safety from evil Zionists, as his site is right there for anyone to see. So, if you are posting here, ole buddy. Why not just come right out and say it? You can give us all kinds of insight into your patriotic involvement in the Phoenix Program. It'll be educational. <br><br>It'll also be educational who comes to your defense. Oh, you have friends here, Richard...yes indeed. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: justice-inc., judicial-biz.inc, etc.

Postby Dreams End » Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:24 pm

I see that the iamthewitness site linked to by Mr. Zundel is actually run by a radio guy named Daryl Smith.<br><br>Unsurprisingly, though, is this article, linked from Smith's page to Earley's page. And who knew Israel was behind Jeff Gannon and Johnny Gosch? <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://judicial-inc.biz/Gannon.htm">judicial-inc.biz/Gannon.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> (linked on the left under "Finally something to laugh about." I didn't get the joke, but tastes differ.<br><br>On the right side he has an excerpt from a John Kaminsky article he links to. In that excerpt there is this quote from Eustace "slaves were happier before emancipation" Mullens:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> Things come along when they're needed enough ... what I see instead is a glorious future. I've said to people for years that America is at the dawn of its Republic now, because we never had a Republic. We've been under control of the bankers the whole time. We'll get our own government and America will begin to have a history. We have no history. All we have is a history of Zionist intrigue.<br>— Eustace Mullins, 7/8/03 <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Notice the terms "banker" and "Zionist." So, what we see is that the country, since it's inception, has been basically completely under the control of the bankers. And who are these bankers...they are Zionists. Now, I guess I'm a little weak on history, because I didn't realize there could have been such a thing as Zionists at the beginnings of American history. See, the Zionist movement started much later. Unless, of course, he's using "Zionist" to mean simply "Jews". But no one does that, now do they?<br><br>And what does Kaminsky have to say about history? IN that article, linked from the iamthewitness page we get this:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Study the Tenth Commandment (Exodus 20:17), and realize that men in black frocks insist that God told men only to above all protect their property, and only then to look after the females one had happened to acquire as property. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>These are the people we have let run the world for five millennia</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, and also the ones shouting the loudest that to fix what has been broken, things should be done their way.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Come on, now. Where are all the "DE is a gatekeeper" posts? Come defend your Mullens. Come defend your Kaminski, your Earley, your "Zionists have run the world since long before there was Zionism but Zionist doesn't mean Jews" buddies. <br><br>Come tell me how, since not ALL of his links go to anti-Jewish propaganda he's not an anti-Semite. Come tell me that he doesn't mean "all the jews". Come defend the very ideology that allowed Hitler to round up all the people who are part of this plot to rule the world. Come expose your hypocrisy...one and all.<br><br>The line starts here. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dreamsend@rigorousintuition>Dreams End</A> at: 10/16/05 10:32 am<br></i>
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Kaminski

Postby robertdreed » Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:51 pm

Yeah...that's how it's done, all right.<br><br>They'll go on for pages bfore getting to the punch line. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: justice-inc., judicial-biz.inc, etc.

Postby Sweejak » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:02 pm

Well welcome to the board Zundel,(poor choice of handles btw) this is what you can expect if you bring up anything related to Israel. people itching for a fight... "the line starts here!" LOL. Because, if you crit Israel your also criticising all Jews, which is anti-semetic. There is no distiction made because if you criticize Israel or one of the Zionisms your really only hiding open criticism of all Jews everywhere. Your articles won't be addressed, winnowing fact from falsehood won't even get a chance. No one will ask you what you think, You'll get a flurry of whois's followed with guilt by association. There is one member that can get away with saying things like "... am I the only one shocked to realize, recently, that Israel sold out to Nazis, while we were being taught that this is the refuge from them." but that person is an Israeli.<br><br>Of course folks like DE will <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">say</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--> "I don't mean criticism of Israel or Zionism" but you have to make sure your link and every thing you can drill up or down to is "safe". Still, everybody, except apparently Jews, can be put in the center of "a Satanic race who control the entire world" so there is a fair amount of leeway... you can be anti Christians of all stripes, American, Brit, German, Muslim, and lizard, but some say that too is code for "Jews". Personally I don't think there is a center, I think it's a global problem.<br><br>As I said on another thread (locked) this topic is ruled by the hyper-vigilant on one hand and the paranoid on the other.<br><br>My take on Judicial... interesting connections and occasionally bits that are not available elsewhere but very short on documentation and yes, I think actually anti-semetic, errr.. anti-Jew, No one has defined just what anti-semetic is and it keeps changing.<br><br>But you didn't link to a judicial article you linked to another one by Hufshmidt. Well, the tactics laid out seem to be fairly well known intel ops. While the word Israel, or Jew is not mentioned the word Mossad is mentioned, and Soros, and "Hate Crime" which usually applies to Jews, though sometimes Gays and others. Well, I don't know if Soros is religious or even if he is really semetic but you know. Anyway, he also talks about Liberals, but that is probably a code word for Jews, like some say "neo-con" is. Good article. It handily lays out the deception... you need to watch that word too because Ostrovsky wrote a book about the Mossad that highlighted that word, it's propbably code. If it does indeed attempt to point at only the Jews, than I disagree with the trajectory. There, I made a distinction.<br><br>Actually I think it will go down something like this, via a list:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>You can see what's coming. The exposure of the illuminati etc will be <br>mired in the same fakery as the exposure of 911. The ultimate "truth is <br>lies" scenario, where the illuminati will orchestra the fake exposure of <br>themselves -until things get to the point where it becomes impossible to <br>differentiate between the real exposure and the fake exposure. An entire <br>world view dedicated to the fake struggle against itself.<br><br>People will talk about fighting the new world order in the same way that <br>politicians talk about sustainable growth, and coca cola sponsers health <br>festivals and charity celebrity car races are held to raise money for <br>environmental awareness week.<br><br>There will be every shade of fakery from limited hangout to 1/2 truthers <br>to flat out disinformation. What we've seen in the Orwellian 'truth" <br>movement is a forerunner of the twisting of every intellectual concept <br>to the point that any word or concept means whatever you want it to mean <br>at any particular time.<br><br>Some Ruppert supporter started an argument about the meaning of "truth" <br>when Ruppert had his back to the wall. MI argued about what "source" <br>means, at a time when the word was inconvenient to him, telling the <br>truth will damage the truth movement, the BTS becomes "physical " <br>evidence, The NWO becomes whoever you mean them to be, Cambpell becomes <br>an accurate forecaster because the figures are irrelevant - he still got <br>the idea right...<br><br>Intellectual concepts and language will become like digital imagery - <br>nothing more clip art to be cut and pasted and edited with total <br>artistic freedom following no rules, no guiding concepts, and limited <br>only by the imagination of the user. Photoshopping a plane into an image <br>means that its really there, "disinformation" becomes whatever is <br>damaging to a particular strategy, and strategy itself is defined by <br>whatever euphemism one wants to imagine as success and claim it as such <br>whether it has taken place or not.<br><br>I guess that after the complete destruction of any intekllectual and <br>linguistic guidelines, then they'll start on the same for ethical <br>guidelines, where torture will become re-education and mass murder will <br>be liberation from suffering or torture will become liberation through <br>suffering and imprisonment will become care etc...<br><br>Some of that phase is still hard to articulate at the moment because the <br>language for it is still in its infancy, but I can sense where its going.<br><br>I suppose the word "good" will become subject to the same Orwellianism <br>as "truth", and torturers will sneer at critics who think they know <br>what's "good" better than anyone else.<br><br>A kind of merging of Orwell, the inquisition, free market extremism, <br>apocalyptic fundamentalism, green fascism, consumer driven <br>individualism, conspiracy busting hero worship culture and old fashioned <br>flag waving.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: justice-inc., judicial-biz.inc, etc.

Postby Dreams End » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:19 pm

Thanks, Sweejak. Who's next? <p></p><i></i>
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whats in a name

Postby michael meiring » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:44 pm

It seems to me i have been misguided in the respectful acknowledged intellect of certain posters here.<br><br>Under their logic it seems guilty by assumption.<br><br>No doubt said posters think i am some sort of american fanatical false flagging expert in asia or sympathiser, especially with my screen name michael meiring.<br><br>In fact the truth could not be farther away.<br><br>It seems to be, dont bother me with facts my mind is already made up mentality.<br><br>Within minutes of posting headings, people are trying to lead me to believe they have read long indepth articles.<br><br>Oh well at least now you have had this anomaly highlighted you can wait a decent lenght of time and pretend that youve read them before replying.<br><br>I myself reserve judgement of zundel until he actually gives his views on articles one way or the other.<br><br>i often find 6 words and a link say enough for me not to look any further without the person adding somthing more substantial of their views.<br><br>Rather than hysterical shouting nazi, zionist, neo con or muslem supporter or self hating jew. Still i suppose those things are less hateful than the most outragious claim of being a disinformation merchant or debunker. Seems any other insult can be hurled on here at the drop of a hat. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: justice-inc., judicial-biz.inc, etc.

Postby slimmouse » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:02 pm

The line starts here. <br><br> I guess its my turn.<br><br> Let me see. The link is to an 9/11 truth article written, I believe by Eric huffshmidt. The overall impression i eventually got was that Huffshmidt was suggesting that we need to be careful exactly "what our 9/11 leaders are doing for us", and how distraction obsfucation and division appears to be the ultimate goal of some within the movement.<br><br> I can relate to that. However I digress.<br><br> To the content of you analysis ;<br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I see that the iamthewitness site linked to by Mr. Zundel is actually run by a radio guy named Daryl Smith.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> I have to say, I never actually noticed. I was looking at an article by Eric Huffschmidt.<br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Unsurprisingly, though, is this article, linked from Smith's page to Earley's page. And who knew Israel was behind Jeff Gannon and Johnny Gosch?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br> Did Zundel make these links ? I never saw that . Just a link to a Huffschmidt article.<br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>judicial-inc.biz/Gannon.htm (linked on the left under "Finally something to laugh about." I didn't get the joke, but tastes differ.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br> Is this a link from a link from a link ? Never saw that. Its getting deep and dirty now though huh ? Kudos to your investigative skills though.<br><br> Whats that ? Theyre talking about Bankers and Zionists ? Whatever next DE. After all, its only Bankers who've usurped the US Fed from YOU, and the B of E from ME. Nothing to point out there huh ?<br><br> Zionists ? Really. Funny how the vast majority of those deluded freaks are actually christians, and yet we are "expected" to make some kind of immediate association. All this from a link from a link from a link.<br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>And what does Kaminsky have to say about history?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br> Ah, got to another viscious racist in Kaminski now have we ? All from a link from a link from a link from a link no doubt, that has nothing whatsoever to do with article linked, which I read.<br><br> We can argue about whether talking about Bankers and Zionists is Anti jewish propaganda all day long. You obviously dont recognise the problems and influence that "Bankers" have on both YOUR life, My life and the World at large.<br><br> And hey, wanna know something ? I dont give a shit who these "Bankers" are. Black, white, Green, Christian, muslim, Jewish, Martian, or whatever. If the cap fits wear it is what I say. <br><br> Its a pity that here is a proffession traditionally associated and dominated by one particular ethnic group though, because anyone who dares so much as mention the word, let alone rightfully mention the heinous activities they indulge in is suddenly cast down with the dirty anti semites. <br><br> Ever stopped to think who actually benefits from that ? Do you ? I dont, and dont know too many who do.<br><br> And finally DE. I have to say, I find your own standards of investigation particularly impressive when they need to be.<br><br> when it comes however, to a simple matter of getting a quote from me in fair context, which actually appears on the very same fucking page, I find your abilities a little less impressive.<br><br> There you go. You can stick me over your line too. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 10/16/05 5:06 pm<br></i>
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Re: whats in a name

Postby Dreams End » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:02 pm

thanks, MM. I'm impatient, so I guess I'll keep going. I wanted all you guys on here at once but let's play.<br><br>This Zundel just posted a now locked thread suggesting we all read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I'd ask us not to debate that particular document or this thread will get locked to, which I guess is okay, but not my intention. But I do point it out for general edification.<br><br>Now Sweejak once(good god, nice spelling...meant "wants") to argue that I don't respond to articles. Okay, I'll play. <br><br>Here's a quote from the article itself:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Other people suspect Ruppert is a wolf in sheep's clothing who is trying to deflect attention away from the Zionists and onto the CIA, vice-president Cheney, and Peak Oil. Some sites <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>think Mossad killed Gary Webb.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>And yes, mm, I read real fast.<br><br>Now, you can't see the hyperlinks in my cut and paste. I simply bolded the text but you can go back to the link and see it. Curious about his source of information on this blockbuster revelation, I clicked on the link. <br><br>Hey, whaddya know, it's Judicial-inc, again. <br><br>Here's how the article, which is the primary evidence on the article you guys say I'm not responding to, begins:<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Presidents of Mexico, Colombia, Argentina, Guatemala, Peru all of Jewish blood or married to Jewesses<br><br><br><br>Peru Is Typical<br>Toldeo Waisman<br> <br><br>Toldeo is married to a Jewess, and his VP is Jewish<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The pictures couldn't be cut and pasted, but the only thing between these quotes is pictures of the people in question. I guess so we could better see their Jewishness.<br><br>It ends with this:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>There are no Colombian cartels.<br><br><br>Drugs are a $ 400 billion dollar a year business, and it has always been control (sice) by Jewish traders since Sassoon ran the Chinese heroin trade in the 1700's. South America has $ 50 billion dollar cocaine and marijuana trade.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dreamsend@rigorousintuition>Dreams End</A> at: 10/16/05 5:55 pm<br></i>
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