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Re: Number 1 Threat - demons and facts

Postby AnnaLivia » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:15 pm

well it sure seems to me that you're trying to have it both ways. i say it's impossible to identify the real enemy by any "means test" other than they are the wealthiest, most powerful people on the planet, and you talk like you agree with that, but then you throw out terms like the word Zionist, and take the idea right back into an attempt to identify them by other categories.<br><br>to be clear, i don't think we even know the names of the very wealthiest and most powerful persons, and i think it's really a waste of time trying to nail down who they really are. because if they don't want us to know, we WON'T know. <br><br>MY point is that the wealthpowerful cross every line known to mankind. and they're not only bankers. they're corporate businessmen and governors, too.<br><br>i personally consider the word zionist actually meaningless. i don't use that at all, precisely because i don't think it does anything but muddy the waters, and i'm trying to clear the waters.<br><br>to me, it's about murdering the idea of having wealthpower giants from our human consciousness, PERIOD.<br><br>as for stormfronters, i can't think of any reason not to swat the obvious flies whilst on the way to my ultimate goal.<br><br>you didn't ask for it, and you don't have to take it, but my advice if you don't want to be mistaken for another brownshirt, is stop using terms that identify by religion, because people are convinced by now that there's an underlying agenda connected to certain terminologies. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Number 1 Threat - demons and facts

Postby slimmouse » Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:58 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>i personally consider the word zionist actually meaningless<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Well, with respect, You should try telling that to the Palestinians, or the Syrians, or the Lebanese, or a few others in the neighbourhood.<br><br> I have to agree overall though. It has very little to do with race or religion or anything else. Religion is one of the tools used on the goyim- A means to an end.<br><br> Its all ultimately about money, power, and to some extent enaction of laws and prophecies of old, whos endgame is definitely still held close and yet dear by the ruling elites.<br><br> I am still extremely unclear about the precise nature of all of this, but without doubt, there appears to be a major focus on Jerusalem mixed into all of this. More reading required for sure.<br><br> I think Anti was hinting at this prior to his exile. <p></p><i></i>
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"Religion Out Of It"..

Postby catbear » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:44 pm

Is the society we live in simply a matter of class when it comes to understanding the dynamics of it.?<br><br>I know people in the "Socialist Workers Party", and their members will have a good knowledge of Marx, etc. They can simplify political and economic control to a simple paradigm of capitalism and a working class. They will be active in fighting racism and supporting industrial disputes. However, at the risk of been patronising or arrogant, I don't think they have anything to offer, in underestanding the world as I view it. The same could be said for the left as a whole. <br><br>I obviously speak for Britain more than America with the following : the right wing/brown shirts/"nazis" are there for merchandise sales and to be used when the need arises for minor activities. Stormfront or the British National Party etc are irrelevant.<br><br>I forecasted years ago that the next world war would be fought against the black moustaches of the world. Already this is happening, and a few hundred thousand black moustaches have suffered in the middle east as a consequence.<br><br>A catayst for understanding the importance and level of hatred and derire for total control, is the false flag operation of 9/11, and the others in its wake. (+ realising that these events have also been orchestrated in the past ) <br><br>Governments can come and go ........you can have lavendar or jasmine scented soap. True democracy has nothing to do with voting every 5 years. The old black south african woman who waited 9 hours in the burning sun to vote, I bet she didn't fucking bother next time.!<br><br>I am more interested in the modern day racists and supremacists who are murdering and degrading black moustaches all over the world....today.<br><br>Those who have lost loved one's might think religion has some role to play in this.<br><br>Who is to blame.! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Religion Out Of It"..

Postby proldic » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:59 pm

I'm genuinely puzzled. If you care to educate me, I'd like to know what you mean specifically by your references to "black moustaches". <p></p><i></i>
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Yessssss....?

Postby catbear » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:58 pm

<br>The polite answer is no comment.!<br><br>I hope you are been sarcastic.!<br><br>Thanks for the reply.... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Yessssss....?

Postby proldic » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:12 pm

no no no I'm not being sarcastic, just a little slow on the uptake. I'm really wondering. Does it mean Hitler moustaches? Men? Southern European Men? Arabic men? <p></p><i></i>
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The Path

Postby catbear » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:27 pm

Hi Proldic....<br><br>Muslim people.........why...another discussion. <br><br>Afghanistan.....Iraq.....Palestinians.........who knows next.....Syria and Iran.<br><br>And don't forget the muslims in your own country, they need to know the rules. Guantanamo or false flag London bombings.<br><br>Life is not as straight forward at the upper end.! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Number 1 Threat - demons and facts

Postby Qutb » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:02 pm

Slimmouse said -<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Who is the bigger Nazi ? Makow, Icke and the people who post here, or Ledeen,Strauss, Wolfowitz, Perle, Kristol, Rockerfellas, Rothschilds,Bremer, Feith, Judith Miller and a whole host of other such clearly deranged Zionist creatures ?<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->If you're going to go Jew-bashing, at least get your facts right. No Rockefeller I know of is a Jew, nor in any conceivable sense a Zionist. Same goes for Bremer, I think (did you ever hear of a Jew who adds a "III" after his name?) <p></p><i></i>
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?

Postby catbear » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:07 pm

What the fuck are you trying to say. <br><br>If you have no idea, go and read up , you have a long way to go.<br><br>Your post is sad based on a brain.! Pass on the other <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ?

Postby Dreams End » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:45 pm

Well, catbear's drugs have kicked in, so his last post was rather incomprehensible. While he's waiting to come down from his trip, I thought I'd post this. This is a memorandum sent to the UN from the Nation Magazine in 1948. It outlines how, despite Balfour and many British pledges during the handover of Israel, they were actively supporting the fascist Arab League, even to the extent of importing Nazi war criminals. <br><br>The memo is based on documents which can also be found by clicking on the link to the article itself. I thought I'd go ahead and post this before the larouchians came onto this thread and started talking about British Monarchy Zionism or whatever the hell that whacked out theory is.<br><br>It shows quite clearly that the Arab/Israeli conflict was provoked and aided by the British, wanting to keep their own interests (such as oil) in the region secure. I believe a wonderful thread, completely hijacked by our own fascists some time ago, brings that story to the present by showing how the same Fascist and even Nazi elements within the Arab world are continually utilized for all kinds of dirty work. I think perhaps building demolition may be on that list.<br><br>Naturally, these same fascists are not so keen on progressive movements within the Arab world and had no problems killing off Arab communists as well as Jews. <br><br>Zionism wasn't perfect. In fact, one could suggest that it was really a defeatist attitude. Herzl believed, I think, that there was simply no way to defeat anti-Semitism accept by leaving the countries involved. The governments of many countries were rather happy to oblige, as the reputation of the Jews that bothered them the most was not about "banks" but about Jewish socialist and worker movements. <br><br>In fact, as the article at points out, allegations that the Jewish Holocaust survivors coming to Israel were actually Bolsheviks intent on taking over the entire Middle East, were used to stir Arab leaders in the surrounding countries to action against the Jews. I recommend a careful reading of all the supporting documents on the site below.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://emperor.vwh.net/history/br.htm">emperor.vwh.net/history/br.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br><br>The General Assembly of the United Nations, for the third time in twelve months, is meeting to discuss "the future government of Palestine." Discussions are taking place in an atmosphere of violence which may touch off an explosion far beyond the boundaries of the Holy Land. <br><br>The question which the General Assembly must face, and world opinion as well, is this: was an inherent injustice in the November 29 resolution of the General Assembly responsible for the current explosion? <br><br>The Nation Associates presents the facts in this memorandum as essential to a wise and just decision. An examination of the facts will show that the present violence in Palestine results from: <br><br>1) British sabotage of Partition -- This British sabotage was deliberately undertaken in order to insure British base rights in Palestine in perpetuity, as well as to safeguard British oil and trade and military interests in the Middle East. <br><br>2) British Alliance with Arab League -- To achieve these ends, the British have embarked on an alliance with the Arab League, composed of the governments of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Transjordan, and Yemen. The Arab League, and not the Arab Higher Committee, controls the military and political developments among the Arabs of Palestine. Representatives of the British government were present at the meetings of the Arab League where the revolt was planned and organized and are in continuous connection with it. Within a month after the November 29th resolution, the Arabs were encouraged to believe partition would be substituted by a Federal State, and arms shipments continued to the Arab States despite their known use for Palestine warfare. On April 28 [1948] Foreign Minister Bevin was still refusing to halt them. <br><br>The facts will show, moreover, that: <br><br>The British have allowed 10,000 foreign invaders to enter Palestine, offering the feeble excuse that the British armed forces, consisting, at the outset, of over 80,000 men, could not adequately protect the border. <br><br>Although since December 11, 1947 the British have been promising to return to Transjordan the contingents of the Arab Legion brought to Palestine for police duty, they have allowed the members of that force to remain in Palestine and to attack Jewish communities. The only conclusion to be drawn is that the Arab Legion constitutes a major part of the effort to coerce the Jews into accepting less than the Jewish State granted by the United Nations. <br><br>At no time has the British government, in spite of its alleged impotence, requested any help from the United Nations; in fact, as the record shows, the British have continued to deprecate the situation, refused to identify the invaders, and have consistently denied that the Arab states as such are involved. <br><br>Through their action they have admitted into Palestine Arabs of known Nazi allegiance in command of the invading forces, and have even admitted escaped Nazi prisoners of war, now to be found in command of Arab detachments. <br><br>From secret British intelligence reports, which are quoted extensively in this record, it is clear that the British know and have always known of every single Arab troop movement in Palestine, and that their relations with the Arabs are such that they could ask Arab leaders to request the invading forces to remain unobtrusive. <br><br>British sabotage has resulted in turning Jerusalem into an armed camp, has permitted the Arabs to seize the Old City and to hold as hostages some 2000 Jews. <br><br>The British have failed to take any action to insure that Haifa should remain an open city, even though they were fully aware of the desire of local Arabs to achieve this and that the Jews wanted only to be safe from attack. <br><br>Their prejudice against the Jews has been clearly indicated in their refusal to allow the Jews to arm for defense against Arab attack, and their blowing up of Jewish defense posts; in their turning over to the Arabs - and to certain death - members of the Haganah; in their confiscation of Haganah arms; in their treatment of Jewish defense personnel as criminals. The British have connived at the starving of the Jewish population of Jerusalem by their failure to keep the highways open. They have refused armed escorts to the Jews. <br><br>Their attitude to the Arab community is quite different. By British admission, the Arab community has been armed by the British. Arab train robberies, which have been frequent, have been met with shooting over the heads of the robbers. Arab desertions from the police, for the purpose of joining the attackers, accompanied by the stealing of arms, have never been prevented, and Arab violators of the peace go unpunished. <br><br>To this record can be added the detailed facts concerning the fashion in which the British have destroyed central authority, and, under the guise of establishing greater local authority, turned over in largest part to the Arabs the various services of the Palestine government created and maintained chiefly by taxation of the Jewish community. Simultaneously, assets have been dissipated and vital communications disposed of to foreign agencies. The effect of this has been to seal the Jewish community in a limited area, cut off its access to the outside world by land and sea, and surround it by Arabs in order to create such a state of siege as would cause the Jews to send up a white flag. <br><br>By arrangement with the Arab League, if partition is shelved through any one of several schemes to assure Arab dominance in Palestine, the British are to receive base rights in Haifa, the Negev and Galilee. <br><br>But the British are not depending on Arab promises alone. They have already taken the necessary steps to assure the permanent rights in Palestine to air bases and land and sea communications. To be able to carry out this program, the Mandatory has required a free hand. That is why it has kept the United Nations Commission out of Palestine and refused it cooperation. <br><br>The facts contained in this document come for the most part from the confidential reports of British Intelligence.<br><br>So intent are the British upon destroying partition that they have shown themselves oblivious to the fact that with it they may destroy the authority of the United Nations, and even the peace of the world.<br><br>Freda Kirchwey, President<br>The Nation Associates<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ?

Postby Qutb » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:13 pm

Loftus and Aaron, in "The Secret War against the Jews", claimed that the British were split betwen the Foreign Office, which supported the establishment of Israel, and the Secret Service (MI6) which opposed it and did their best to sabotage it. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ?

Postby Dreams End » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:16 pm

Did you ever get the Sander Hicks book? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ?

Postby Qutb » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:21 pm

No, too much else to read and do. But it's defintely on my list. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ?

Postby Col Quisp » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:26 pm

For those of you who never venture into the Parlour, here's some info I left recently about interviews on WFMU:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://wfmu.org/special.php/DX">wfmu.org/special.php/DX</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The DJ of this particular show describes himself thusly:<br><br>"Anti-fascist researcher Dave Emory goes into all the hidden truths and details about evil men and their trade practices."<br><br>Here's a sample of the archived interviews you can listen to:<br><br> * November 15, 2005: FTR #532: Interview with John Loftus about Unholy Trinity and Intelligence Summit <br> * November 8, 2005: FTR #531 Interview with Lucy Komisar about Off Shore <br> * November 1, 2005: FTR #530: Alpha Males: One Helluva Conspiracy Theory <br> * October 25, 2005: FTR #529: Nazi Roots and Fascist Flowers <br> * October 18, 2005: FTR #528 Interview with Daniel Hopsicker About the Gus Boulis Murder <br> * October 4, 2005: FTR #527 Death Trap Part 2 <br><br> * September 27, 2005: FTR #525: Interview with Sander Hicks about The Big Wedding. <br> * September 20, 2005: FTR #526 An Interview with Ed Haslam <br> * September 13, 2005: FTR #524: The Safari Club & the Islamic Bomb <br> * September 6, 2005: FTR #523: Catching Up With Daniel Hopsicker <br><br> * August 30, 2005: FTR #522: The Safari Club: 5th Column Pt6 <br> * August 23, 2005: FTR 520: Update On White Supremecists & Neo Nazi's PLUS FTR #521: Miscellaneous Articles and Updates <br> * August 16, 2005: FTR #141 - Interview with Wesley Smith III PLUS FTR #152A: Update on Germany. <br> * August 9, 2005: FTR 124 : Interview II with Wesley J. Smith <br><br> * July 26, 2005: FTR #519: More history of the Islamic-Fascist Axis <br> * July 19, 2005: FTR #518 "Islamism In Europe" <br> * July 12, 2005: FTR #517: Update on September 11th and Related Matters <br> * July 5, 2005: FTR #516: Interview with Daniel Hopsicker about the Venice, Florida coverup <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX">wfmu.org/playlists/DX</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: A straightforeward question gets....

Postby slimmouse » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:52 am

<br> Thanks for posing my question QUTB. At least you quoted me right this time. I suppose I should be grateful for small mercies. I said, and you quoted;<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Who is the bigger Nazi ? Makow, Icke and the people who post here, or Ledeen,Strauss, Wolfowitz, Perle, Kristol, Rockerfellas, Rothschilds,Bremer, Feith, Judith Miller and a whole host of other such clearly deranged Zionist creatures ?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br> Alas However, I shouldnt of course be surprised by your "Answer". Nor was I particularly ;<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>If you're going to go Jew-bashing, at least get your facts right. No Rockefeller I know of is a Jew, nor in any conceivable sense a Zionist. Same goes for Bremer, I think (did you ever hear of a Jew who adds a "III" after his name?)<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br> Is that really the best you can do ? However in dealing with your "Answer", which is nothing more than the usual pathetic diversionary tactic, I dont know if you actually noticed, but I never mentioned any ethnicity. My concern was simply with murdering fascist racists . <br> <br> You know. FASCIST MURDERING NAZIS. Bush, Cheney and Rumsfelds SS and propaganda division. Policy makers and corporate fascists. <br><br> Liars, thieves, crooks and killers to a man. Surely as an ardent "Anti fascist", <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>you cant have any problem with that</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> ? <br><br> Or can you ? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 11/24/05 6:22 am<br></i>
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