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Re: The Umbrella Man and Radio Man

Postby JerkyLeBoeuf » Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:51 pm

What?! Links please! I'm beyond intrigued and I've never seen those particular pictures before! <br><br>Is there any online scholarship on these two guys? <p></p><i></i>
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highly variable amounts of antimony

Postby Sweejak » Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:33 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>LIVERMORE - More than four decades after his death, John F. Kennedy's assassination remains the hottest cold case in U.S. history, and the clues continue to trickle in. Now Lawrence Livermore Laboratory scientists say a key piece of evidence supporting the lone gunman theory should be thrown out.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/15321194.htm">www.mercurynews.com/mld/m...321194.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The Umbrella Man and Radio Man

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:37 pm

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.copweb.be/Orlando%20Bosch%20Avila.htm">Here's a page</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> that suggests the Cuban was Orlando Bosch. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The Umbrella Man and Radio Man

Postby chiggerbit » Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:47 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Bosch">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Bosch</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<br>Jump to: navigation, search<br>Orlando Bosch is a Cuban exile and former CIA-backed criminal, head of CORU organization, which the FBI has described as "an anti-Castro terrorist umbrella organization". He has been accused of having taken part in Operation Condor and of a variety of terrorist attacks. Most notably he has admitted, together with another anti-Castro Cuban exile Luis Posada Carriles, of taking part in the October 6, 1976 bombing of a Cuban civilian airliner in which all seventy-three people on board were killed. This bombing would have been decided at the same meeting, attended by Luis Posada Carriles and DINA agent Michael Townley, where Chilean former minister Orlando Letelier's assassination, in Washington, D.C. in 1976, was decided.<br><br>Orlando Bosch was in contact with CIA in 1962 and 1963, as the agency itself admitted, as recorded in the National Security Archive [1]. At this time, Bosch was the General Coordinator of the Insurrectional Movement of Revolutionary Recovery (MIRR). He was a member of the anti-Castro Operation 40.<br><br>Orlando Bosch entered Venezuela in mid-September 1976 under protection of Venezuelan president Carlos Andres Perez, according to the National Security Archive [2]. A CIA document described a $1,000-a-plate fundraiser in Caracas, Venezuela, held between September 22 and October 5, 1976, to support the activities of Orlando Bosch. The informant quoted Bosch as making an offer to Venezuelan officials to forgo acts of violence in the United States when President Carlos Andres Perez visited the United Nations in November, in return for "a substantial cash contribution to [Bosch's] organization." Bosch was also overheard stating: "Now that our organization has come out of the Letelier job looking good, we are going to try something else." Several days later, Posada was reported to have stated that "we are going to hit a Cuban airplane" and "Orlando has the details." (Both the Bosch and Posada statements were cited in an October 18, 1976 report to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger posted by the National Security Archive on May 17, 2005.) Bosch was jailed in Venezuela awaiting trial for his role concerning the Cubana Flight 455 bombing, but he was never convicted of these charges.<br><br>He was arrested in Florida for an attack on a Polish freighter with a 57 mm recoilless rifle in 1968. Bosch was freed from Venezuelan charges and went to the United States in 1987, assisted by US Ambassador to Venezuela Otto Reich. Bosch was pardoned of all American charges by President George H.W. Bush on July 18, 1990.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The Umbrella Man and Radio Man

Postby chiggerbit » Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:50 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB157/index.htm">www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSA.../index.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The Umbrella Man and Radio Man

Postby chiggerbit » Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:05 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.copweb.be/Orlando%20Bosch%20Avila.htm">www.copweb.be/Orlando%20B...0Avila.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The Umbrella Man and Radio Man

Postby km artlu » Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:20 am

The man with camera in the b & w shot....I suppose he's assumed to have been just an interested citizen, a businessman on his lunch break.<br><br>But really, if there was a casting call for "CIA field ops veteran", he would do. <p></p><i></i>
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three tramps

Postby thurnandtaxis » Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:28 am

I had recently read in volume three of Peter Levenda's Sinister Forces that Woody Harrelson's father, Cahrles Voydt Harrelson, in jail for the murder of a U.S. district judge had confessed and then recanted to being complicit in the JFK assassination.<br><br>Here is a link to a presentation from a reputable police sketch artist based on photographic evidence that seems to indicate rather clearly that Harrelson Sr. was quite possibly one of the "three tramps".<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/lois1.htm">www.jfkmurdersolved.com/lois1.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Though, she doesn't tag one of the others as E.Howard Hunt like I've heard speculated quite often... <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thurnandtaxis>thurnandtaxis</A> at: 8/22/06 11:59 pm<br></i>
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Re: three tramps

Postby FourthBase » Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:53 am

Wow, I'd never seen that large b & w photo, and I thought I'd seen everything! It certainly looks like it could be Bosch, those ears and the thick glasses, and the complexion seems right for the post-summer. I wonder how tall Bosch is, and how easy it would be to estimate how tall the Radio Man is?<br><br>But really, wow, to finally see a new picture of them...<br>Exhilarating!<br><br>If it's Bosch, then that would confirm A LOT of Nagell's story.<br><br>EDIT: Actually, not as much as I thought.<br>Operation 40 is barely mentioned.<br>It's Bishop who asks Russell about them, though.<br>Shows him the job descriptions, etc. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fourthbase>FourthBase</A> at: 8/23/06 1:53 am<br></i>
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That picture

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:04 am

was new to me, too. It makes you want to yell at him to turn towards the camera. The face doesn't seem as long as in the more familiar, lower-rez image, and the complexion is darker. Very suggestive of Bosch.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: That picture

Postby Dreams End » Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:45 pm

Interesting stuff. Thought I'd toss in this little tech tip. I sometimes (okay...often) wonder what those images are. If I'm curious, (I use a Firefox browser) I can right click and pick "copy image location" and put that into another browser window. Sometimes the URL tells me what I want to know and sometimes I browse the site it links to (did that for Boyd Rice...didn't know anything about him...still don't, not really...he looks like a spook to me but who knows) <br><br>I don't know exactly how this works in internet explorer, but maybe right clicking on an image will give a similar option. Someone more familiar with IE can maybe give better instructions.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: That picture

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:57 pm

And thanks for the Boyd Rice pictures. I'd been wanting to see a photo of him with his evangelist buddy, Bob Larson, and there it is. (Larson's the little guy with the beard between Rice and another presumed Satanist.) <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Boyd Rice

Postby Ouish » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:41 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>did that for Boyd Rice...didn't know anything about him...still don't, not really<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I've heard of Boyd Rice because he was in Re:Search's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Pranks</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> collection and because of the kerfuffle surrounding his marriage to Lisa Suckdog. He's sort of a Performance Artist/Provocateur. For example, he released a vinyl record where the track keeps branching so the record never plays the same "music" twice (or said he did in <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Pranks</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> -- maybe it's a hoax!). <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Boyd Rice

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:45 am

From <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/05/devil-you-know-part-two_10.html">this post</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, re Larson and Rice:<br><br>On his ministry broadcasts Larson regularly works up a nice head of froth over satanism, but privately he's on friendly terms with frequent guests, including satanist and esoteric fascist Boyd Rice. There's a fascinating interview with Rice <br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.devilsweb.com/snakeoil/boyd.html">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> that presents a window on their relationship. Asked whether he thinks Larson is a "repressed Satanist" Rice replies enthusiastically "That's what I'm always telling him! I'm always saying, 'Bob, you're Satanic, you're just presenting it in a convoluted way, because you're going on the air and taking advantage of these weak, confused people, and they're giving you their money.'"<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Boyd Rice

Postby thurnandtaxis » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:59 pm

I was going to post a link to Boyd Rice's ...ummm...experimental film "invocation" in the Videos Thread.<br><br>but after watching some of it, I'm sure that if there's an accurate usage of the word "triggering" this would be it. I had a hard time watching it and stopped halfway through. Very disturbing "Sex And Death" imagery.<br><br>I'd heard Rice's name bandied about abit in the late 80's early 90's techno-industrial/gothic music community. Ostensibly he's a performer<br>in the tradition of Coum Transmissions and Throbbing Gristle's Genesis P'Orridge crossed with a bit of Kenneth Anger, but something about the sincerity of his overall Fascistic take on the supposedly much less malignant and merely oppositional "Left Handed Path" of occult ritual,<br>really turned me off. He seems a bit more than just some guy playing off at being an asshole or whole heartedly endorsing some dark pagan mythos..."for art's sake".<br><br>I could be wrong and maybe he is just some artsy creep, but DE's coment about him looking like a spook got me thinking...<br><br>Suffice to say, here's a list of the Rice related videos on youtube:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://youtube.com/results?search_query=boyd+rice&search=Search">youtube.com/results?searc...rch=Search</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>you can watch whatever and make up your own mind, but like I said I <br>felt it unethical to post the "invocation" as a link at the risk of implying "Hey, check THIS out - Cool!" <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thurnandtaxis>thurnandtaxis</A> at: 8/24/06 5:01 pm<br></i>
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