by Et in Arcadia ego » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:05 am
<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Stick with what you know Jeff, don't let the devils tease with their dollars. Ask why they want you there?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Nothing doing, Sir, I've never had any issue with you whatsoever, and I'll try not to take it personal, but honestly, you can kiss my ass.<br><br>1st thing, vBulletin <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>IS</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> something he knows, because it <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>IS</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> PHPbb, only it's substantailly agumented by professional/commecial code enhancement. In other words, they've taken user licenses and applied those eranings towards making <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>BETTER, SAFER</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> software built using the same PHPbb code while making it as simple to use as the extisting freeware versions, if not easier.<br><br>I possibly made an error in assuming that was more obvious that it really is.<br><br>My apolgies.<br><br>Freeware PHPbb is rife with security flaws that I witnessed myself as a moderator at chemrailcentral. Literally, in my first hour as Moderator, I found myself watching countless 'guests' reading member PM's as well as monitoring/reading sections of the forum that were invisible to everyone but the highest raking moderators. The infiltrators even added to the thread view counts by doing so. I immediately suspected this betrayed the owner of the site as a dirty dog, because he deliberately obfuscated the issue if not outright ignored it against <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>LOUD</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> protests from myself and his co-Admin, who was powerless to stop what was happeningwithout the Boss' cooperation.<br><br>His later actions heavily reinforced my suspicions.<br><br>My point in spending money is for one purpose, and one purpose only: Security, that comes with guaranteed Customer Support unobtainable with freware code.<br><br>This isn't a @#%$ Candy-Land; Jeff's going to need the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>safest</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> forum he can get his hands on, bar none, and if I can halp fascilitate that, I'll pay for the entire goddamned license fee myself. We don't talk about better ways to grow Roses, we talk about Sick Fuckers who want to destroy/exploit everthing in sight, and they watch us do it every single @#%$ day here.<br><br>Why not ask for Mr Well's resolved visitor's IP list one day if you doubt me.<br><br>There is literally <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>NO DIFFERENCE</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> in transfering code from this ezboard to PHPbb or vBulletin, in fact, it may be easier to implement with a commercial code that contains functionality the freeware PHPbb does not/cannot. It also has a Support System that is unmatched in even an open sourse project like freeware PHPbb. Are you not aware that if someone gets a backdoor into his forum they literally can install augmented malicious code into the forum software iitself? This code sits all over the internet..They only need the physical address of the software directory, and that's about as easy to find as picking your own nose or fetching lint out of a filthy navel.<br><br>Turn about is fair play here, methinks.<br><br>Why are you so interested in having Jeff use the most vulnerable, hackable version of PHPbb code? While I suggsted PHPbb, I never suggested he use the freeware versions, myself, if I recall, due to my extremely frusrating experiences using CTC's free PHPbb board of which Jeff himself has been long aware of. I have an entire moderator team of <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>DECENT</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> and <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>REAL</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> people that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>all</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> resigned within 12 hours to corroborate the experience.<br><br>The system was alledgedly 'hacked' by snatching his browser cookies from a SEPERATE machine, which idiotically held the l/p for Head Admin at CTC.<br><br>They got inside and destroyed up to 10,000 significant and very well targeted posts by only <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>THREE</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> individuals within one @#%$ hour while I was getting Married, who coicidentally, had the heaviest observations and data against the 'NWO', 'Illuminati', or whatever the Hell it is that THEY want you to call it..<br><br>Nothing in this life is free, and if I know Mr Wells like I feel I do, he'll remain the new forum's <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>ONLY</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> moderator, which while wholley appropriate, also pries him continously away from his own very important research.<br><br>I want him to have <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Best</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, hands down, so he can more effectively work on things that are more important than moderating a forum and defending it from effortless attacks a commercial version has a much greater potential to mitigate.<br><br>Why would you not wish to see him have the best security he can get his hands on? The only argument I have for it is because he deserves the best, and you know it.<br><br>Cal; me out as a Devil again, and I'm going to get @#%$ irrate. I've supported this person since day one, and I'll do anything in my power to help and protect him because he's simply TOO IMPORTANT.<br><br>Do you seriously have a problem with that?<br><br>Pick your commercial forum, Jeff. If it appears I'm manipulating you into vBulletin, I will match the same contribution to the forum of YOUR choice, NOT mine.<br><br>Paranoid fuckers..How do you expect this Man to have a chance in hell of getting through to the most people he can without the best tools he can aquire? I have a very young daughter I seek to protect and I <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>NEED</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> brave and intellegent people like Jeff to help me learn how to protect her, and who it is I'm protecting her from.<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>''tease with dollars.."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>@#%$ you man,. Seriously. That's some bullshit I'd never have expected to hear from a regular, and don't even try telling me that I'm not a core member here, and I remain one while my wife is slowly dying even as I speak. <br><br>I dare you.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_idiot.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Maybe it's just too embarassing to admit you're flat broke, or worse, don't support the community enough to care? Either way, you're compromising my respect, not because you might be under financial contraints, but insted of simply stating so(or even just keeping your mouth shut about your own peroson financial situation which is no one's business here), you felt compelled to attack those willing to put their money where their mouth is..<br><br>You owe me as well as Jeff a serious apolgy, my friend. <br><br>What a contrast you provide against my good friend, Joe Hillshoist, another old school 'chemmie' that's seen as bad or worse than I have forum-wise. I can't wait until he reads this crap. He <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>WILL</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> weigh in here..<br><br>And it's not going to be in your favor. <p>____________________<br>Wehret den Anfängen</p><i></i>