Bearing witness to ritual abuse

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Bearing witness to ritual abuse

Postby American Dream » Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:09 pm

http://www.delphicentre.com.au/M%20Salt ... itness.doc

Bearing witness to ritual abuse
Michael Salter


Every morning, when I wake up, I go next door and check on Alex. I knock on her door, and sometimes I hear a rueful answer muffled by bedsheets. Most of the time, I’m met by silence, and I go into her room to find her curled up in bed or on the floor. She can be shaking silently, or crying, her hands clamped to her face. It can take half an hour of coaxing before she opens her eyes.


I’ll wait while she has a shower. If the night has been bad enough, she’ll collapse in the bathroom. I throw a bathrobe over her shivering form, calm her down, and gently lift her out of the shower and take her to her room. Sooner or later, once she’s dressed, we are both off to work.

During the day, it’s hard to think about anything else. I worry about her, how she is going, whether she’s safe, whether she is happy. We make contact a few times during the day through email and text message. If her anxiety levels are particularly high, I will leave a little early to pick her up from her work, and we’ll go home.

She lives mostly on a diet of liquid substitutes such as Sustagen, although, if she’s feeling bright enough, she will eat an entire meal. She does her best, but forcing herself to eat solids will bring on an automatic choking and vomiting reflex. Night-times are the worst of it. She rarely gets more then a few hours sleep; insomnia and flashbacks make sure of that.
I have the bedroom next to hers. At night, I hear her coughing and gasping for breath in her dreams, crying out for help, her body wracked with muscular spasms and memories of agony. Often enough, I go into her room and hold her hand. I tell her that everything is OK, that she’s safe, that she’s just having a ‘bad dream’. I tell her stories and read to her. If she’s feeling particularly bad, I’ll sleep in her room to keep her company.

For me, it’s been a couple of years. For Alex, it’s been two decades.

Ritual abuse and torture

Alex is the survivor of a paedophile ring that used ritualized torture to keep child victims compliant and silent. A cocktail of drugs, electrocution and sexual assault fragmented her young consciousness, and placed her exploitation in a place beyond words. The perpetrators convinced her that what was occurring was normal and natural, and that they were teaching her to be good. Her childhood was spent trying to please them.

Now, Alex has an ‘illness’ that doesn’t exist. You could loosely call it ‘post-traumatic stress disorder’ (PTSD), but what she goes through is much more then the nightmares of a mugging victim. There are terms like ‘complex PTSD’ or ‘cumulative trauma disorder’ that cover it, although they have an apocryphal status at best within psychology and medicine. Australia has yet to admit that torture occurs in our country, or develop any comprehensive diagnostic, treatment or prevention frameworks to assist survivors. That is a denial that reaches far deeper then you think.

Alex and I

I’ve known Alex for six years. I met her when I was still a teenager, living in a student share house. We got along well, but she was private and kept to herself. I couldn’t help noticing how little she ate, how little she slept, or the hours that she spent walking at night. One day, a flatmate told me that she could hear Alex crying herself to sleep every night.
The next night, when Alex set out for one of her long walks, I told her I was coming with her. We were barely around the corner when I confronted her with my suspicion. I told her that I believed she’d been sexually abused. I’ve never seen anyone look so terrified. I asked her who it was, and she told me. “A group of police officers.”

Over the next few months and years, Alex let me into her life. I came to see the ravages of extreme trauma; the depression, the flashbacks, the suicide attempts, the self-mutilation, the hyper-vigilance. The most simple acts and challenges were incredibly fraught for Alex. Getting enough food and sleep was a battle that was lost a long time ago. The everyday pressures of social interaction and study prompted overwhelming and paralysing emotional responses.

What frightened me the most was her silence. She couldn’t speak about her past without being forced to internally re-live it. We worked together to try and create a joint understanding of her history, but the end result was always hours of flashbacks and re-experienced trauma.

What we were able to piece together was well outside my realm of understanding. She told me that there were many abusers, and that they had been organized and systematic. Sometimes, sleeping in her room and bearing witness to the nightmares and flashbacks, I would hear her conversations with people from long ago. I didn’t know what to make of it all; what got me through was an increasing conviction that she needed and deserved assistance, and that, without support, she might not make it through.

While I was living overseas, I received a death threat, and so did Alex. The men from Alex’s childhood came back for her, blackmailing her with photos and videos of the things they did to her when she was younger. After a two year game of cat-and-mouse, in which Alex moved a dozen times in a futile attempt to stay safe, I moved interstate to live with her again. That was over a year ago.

In that time, I’ve intercepted phone calls from perpetrators who demand to speak to Alex and threaten to kill me if I try to stop them. I’ve heard from an adult victim who pleaded for Alex to return to the group. I’ve read text messages telling Alex to ‘give in’ and referring to the rape and torture of young children. I’ve come home to find bloody organs smeared through our beds and strange sigils painted on our sheets.

Alex’s mobile phone rings constantly, day and night. If she answers, the perpetrators demand that she goes to a certain place and wait for a car. Sometimes, Alex disappears for a period of five to ten hours, only to reappear dumped on the side of the road with multiple injuries. It takes her weeks to recover.

Carer-counselor-nurse-private investigator-body guard

Caring for a survivor of ritual abuse is a guerilla war waged against specters both inside and outside her head. Sometimes, it’s an agonizing memory that overwhelms her for hours at night. Other times, it’s the man waiting by her car after work, who moves swiftly from convivial chatter to demanding her keys and forcing her into the car. My role is a blend of counselor, nurse and bodyguard.

Since February, Alex has been undergoing treatment as a trauma survivor, and she has been responding very well. Before treatment began, she could muster little resistance to the orders she received via the phone and email. Experience had taught her that sexual assault and torture was an inevitable part of her life, and that she might as well give in. For the first time, treatment has given her a sense of hope, and a taste of a world free from sexual exploitation, pain and the threat of death.

As she moves towards a healthier state of being, her thought processes are re-ordering, which can be both disorientating and distressing for her. It’s difficult for her to concentrate, and her short-term memory can be unreliable. However, she’s getting more sleep, eating better, and her levels of somatic pain have dropped dramatically. Her flashbacks have lessened in severity, and she inhabits an emotional space that is much more engaged and integrated then when I first met her.

When I first met her, Alex could not speak even tangentially about what she’d been through, without lapsing into flashbacks and mute terror. Now, she speaks openly and eloquently about her abuse and its impact on her. As she keeps speaking, the fear begins to subside, and the memories settle down into a slightly different configuration from where they bubbled up. Change is simultaneously incremental and monumental. We celebrate every small step forward.

Invisible survivor, invisible carer

Like many other ritual abuse survivors, Alex has been groomed since childhood to be deeply phobic of police and doctors. As a result, when faced with a police officer or a medical examination, Alex becomes glassy eyed and speechless with fear. Both police and doctors have interpreted this response as ‘non-cooperation’. They don’t understand that she has no choice.

In the face of ignorance and denial, Alex is rendered invisible to service providers, and so am I. I have found myself in a world filled with memories of rape and torture. Men have threatened to kill me. My dearest friend keeps disappearing and reappearing, bleeding, burnt and speechless, whilst police and doctors refuse to get involved. Without external assistance, I am stretched trying to manage her challenging psychological symptoms whilst ensuring her safety from an organised criminal network.

Who are the perpetrators?

The perpetrators are a sadistically abusive prostitution and pornography ring operating throughout Australia. Members have in common a sexual interest in the brutal torture of young girls, who are ritually abused with the intention of irrevocably shattering their consciousness, ‘bonding’ them to the group, and creating a sense of complicity in their own sexual enslavement.

Ritual abuse is commonly blamed on underground ‘cults’, but these perpetrators are not a ‘cult’ in the usual sense of the word. They do operate within a specific misogynistic occult ideology, however, this appears to function as much as an organizing principle as a shared religious conviction. This ritual abuse group is better conceptualized as a network, in that it is constituted of specific chapters operating across the country under the auspice of an overarching authority structure.

Child victims are usually sourced from within the perpetrator’s family, however, the ritual torture and indoctrination process is effective enough to camouflage a child’s abuse from non-perpetrating parents. Whilst many people presume that parents will ‘intuitively’ sense that their child is being sexually abused, the truth is that the more profound a child’s trauma, the more entrenched their silence. The sexual torture of young children creates such an extreme level of dissociation that parents may be oblivious to their child’s ordeal. This is particularly true when ritual abuse begins so early that the child’s traumatic symptoms – profound shyness, slow social development, inappropriate behaviour – appear to have always been present, and can be dismissed as part of their ‘personality’.

The rationale imposed on the child by the group is the justification of every paedophile writ large; that the child deserves torture and pain, and that she enjoys and seeks the sexual abuse. The child ‘learns’ that she is innately evil, and that the pain and dehumanization of the torture both ‘punishes’ and ‘purifies’ her. She is instructed that she can only find redemption by doing exactly what she is told. ‘Goodness’ equals obedience. As the child grows, this becomes the underlying belief structure upon which she bases her entire worldview. During sexual assault, she is electrocuted if she resists or cries out, thus dislocating stimulus from affect. She does not dare associate her natural responses of rage and fear with the predations of the ‘Masters’, and they encourage her to vent her pain and anger on other victims.

The victim is progressively dehumanized by the group and socialized into sexual perpetration. She is referred to by a specific number within the group to reinforce her dehumanization. She is marked on her body as a sign of her enslavement. During a torture ordeal, the victim is usually forced to wear a dog collar with her number written on it. The collar is tightened in punishment for imaginary ‘transgressions’. The perpetrators refer to victims as ‘dogs’, ‘slaves’, ‘sluts’ and ‘whores’.

Many torture ordeals are filmed and photographed. An ordeal may be ‘preceded’ by the production of ‘vanilla’ pornography in which the victim is forced to ‘smile’ and act naturally while the camera is rolling. This material is sold commercially, and some of it is available on commercial websites. Ritual abuse pornography is also available online, but it is more commonly hoarded by the group, and used as part of the indoctrination process. During torture, victims are forced to watch the pornographic films made of them in order to further embed their sense of degradation and shame. When they grow older, the pornographic material is used for blackmail.

If a victim survives into adulthood, her torture is ongoing until she commits suicide or ‘agrees’ to become a ‘master’ and begin orchestrating ritual abuses on children and other survivors. In this way, former victims are bought into the 'fold' and the perpetrators ensure that errant survivors do not compromise the security of the group.

Why haven’t they been caught?

The perpetrators have been investigated by law enforcement and other agencies. However, a number of factors have prevented the group and network from being shut down:

The nature of torture: Ritual abuse victims, due to the neurology of extreme trauma, are unable to provide the detailed narrative that the police and judiciary require in order to provide assistance. This is one of the defining characteristics of complex post-traumatic stress disorder – the victim is not able to contextualize the traumatic experience within a larger narrative. When we look at history and anthropology, we can see patterns of ritual abuse and child torture throughout a variety of eras and cultures, but since it results in involuntary and intractable speechlessness, it remains largely unrecognized.

The nature of law enforcement and the judiciary: Ritually abusive groups have been successfully prosecuted overseas through the cooperation of police with welfare services, however, such synergy has yet to be seen in Australia. I have spoken to police officers who are aware of the existence of this group and who have come across victims who corroborate one another’s stories; however, the law does not have the necessary frameworks to prosecute offenders. Moreover, most Australian police receive no training in the nature of trauma or organized sexual exploitation.

Lack of specialized services: The official refusal to accept the phenomenon of ritual abuse and child torture has meant that, although welfare workers and departments encounter survivors and victims in their case loads, the public service has yet to develop any organizational response to ritual abuse. The disbelief associated with ‘ritual abuse’ has forced social workers to refer to such cases as ‘women with complex needs’, ‘sadistic organised abuse’, or other euphemisms, thus effectively fragmenting and camouflaging the crime. Meanwhile, torture services are funded purely to work with refugees and migrants, and Australian-born torture survivors have no access to comprehensive, targeted assistance.

Corruption, misconduct and inaction: No charges have been laid in any Australian police investigation into child sexual abuse involving trafficking and torture. These investigations have been characterized by misplaced evidence, missing reports, uncontacted witnesses, and intimidated victims. A founding member of the Victorian sexual crimes unit described a twelve-year-old abuse victim as a “little slut” and a senior investigator with the NSW sexual crimes unit is under suspicion for possession of child pornography. Some survivor advocates feel that the ritual abuse network in Australia, like those uncovered in Portugal and Belgium, may have sufficient power to pervert police investigations.
Ignorance and disbelief: The “art’” of torture is to never leave a mark. A victim may have no “proof’” of their ordeal beyond what they can disclose. The lack of physical evidence and the extremity of their story means that torture victims are rarely believed within their own communities. This is particularly true in Australia. We don’t know very much about torture and we don’t want to know. It is easier to discredit victims then listen to their harrowing story, particularly if it means that we have to challenge our common assumptions about safety, law and order.

Where to now?

Torture victims need a great deal of community support before they can speak about what they have been through; that support is not on offer in Australia, and, consequently, the torturers walk freely amongst us. The inability of law enforcement or the public service to generate any response to this issue (let alone an appropriate one) highlights significant and concerning structural deficiencies. Non-political torture is effectively invisible in Australia and survivors are on their own.

Ritual abuse, non-political torture, and intra-national sexual trafficking are emerging as global human rights issues. Survivors and advocates are becoming increasingly vocal and there have been successful criminal prosecutions overseas, most notably in America and Europe. Whilst public ignorance and police inertia are exploited by ritual abuse perpetrators, who have considerable power and influence of their own, Australian survivors are in the early stages of connecting with one another and developing a cohesive voice. It is only a matter of time before the most disempowered and betrayed citizens of this country begin to demand the same rights and freedoms that the rest of us take for granted.

Despite the challenges, Alex and I are winning. As she heals, every day is a new world. I’m watching her unfurl, exploring possibilities that she never knew were hers, reclaiming choices that the torturers thought they had erased forever. They wanted her to be an empty shell; a slave who would do as she was told. Instead, they face a beautiful young woman fighting for her freedom with a degree of strength and intelligence far beyond them. When you consider what is stacked against us, that’s a profound testament to her and the partnership that we have forged.
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Postby American Dream » Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:19 pm

Here is a rendering of a presentation by the author of the previous piece, Michael Salter:


http://www.cjrn.unsw.edu.au/audio/msalter%20seminar.ppt

Adult accounts of organised child sexual abuse in Australia
Michael Salter PhD candidate, Faculty of Law, Faculty of Medicine



What are the ways in which the sexual abuse of children can be organised or coordinated by multiple perpetrators?

What happens to victimised children in organised contexts?

What are the environmental factors that enable, or compound, the sexual exploitation of children?




Terminology

Organised abuse refers to any instance in which multiple adults act in a coordinated or premeditated way to sexually abusive multiple children.

Abusive ordeals are incidents of organised sexual abuse.

Perpetrator groups are groups that engage in organised abuse.

Primary abuser refers to the individual who is primarily responsible for procuring the child, and trafficking the child to and from abusive ordeals.

The primary abuser is responsible for “managing” the child outside organised contexts.

Procuring refers to the process by which a primary abuser identifies, grooms and inducts a child into organised abuse.

Trafficking refers to the transport of a child to an abusive ordeal.


What are the ways in which the sexual abuse of children can be coordinated or organised by multiple abusers?

Parents, relatives and family friends
Priests and nuns at church or school

Staff and visitors to residential care
One participant described being procured by a stranger in the community
Two participants provided second-hand accounts of corrupt Elders procuring children for abuse from Indigenous communities


Interview data not included in the presentation

“Ad hoc” abuse
A teenage brother who encouraged his friends to abuse his young sister
A stepmother who abused her stepchildren, and encouraged her son to do so
Abuse by multiple perpetrators who do not know one another
Non-contact offences
Forced to strip for staff in a residential institution
Father and family friends expose themselves to the child


What happens to victimised children in organised contexts?

Participants reported a common range of sexually abusive acts, including:

Group sexual assault (oral, vaginal and anal rape)
Sadistic and fetishistic acts (incorporating bondage, urine, faeces)
Forcing a child into sexual contact with other children
The manufacture of child pornography
Child prostitution
Ritualistic abuse/torture


Crimes reported by participants were rarely limited to child sex abuse.

Participants commonly reported:
The intensive inhibition of disclosure through drugging, death threats and torture (electro-shock, near-drowning)
The sexual assault and torture of women
Reproductive harms (pregnancy through rape, non-consensual abortions)
The murder of children and adults


The hierarchy of victimisation

A child’s status in the group is determined by:
How they were procured for organised abuse
The identity of the child’s primary abuser

These variables determine:
The range and extremity of acts that may be inflicted on the child
The frequency of incidents of organised abuse
The period of sexual exploitation


1st tier: Children groomed to become adult abusers

Usually the female child of adult perpetrators

Sexual abuse, physical abuse and neglect normative in the family home

Early onset of organised abuse in childhood (infancy, early childhood)

Frequent incidences of organised sexual abuse (at least weekly)

Abuse often had ritualistic features, and structured by the pretence of status (“queen”, “priestess”, “princess”)

Abuse may continue into adulthood, and the captive adult may provide their children for abuse.


Ritual abuse and the pretence of status

… They were getting me to be, some kind of “high priestess” and all this kind of stuff. They tortured me, and conditioned me, and then I end up being used. Yes, it's a position of power over men and boys, but I’m used to recruit the young boys through ... through sex. Then, of course, it's pretty horrible because I'm being tortured, but I end up, I really want to be involved.

… They do it from torturing you first, they give you a position of power after they have conditioned you to be what they want you to be. Basically, so you've got really nowhere else to go. (Joanne)


And I was always told that, that I was in training to be a high priestess. But I also know of a few other ritual abuse survivors who say the same thing, so I’m never sure if that’s a line that is used regularly and it’s just a lie. (Lilly)




2nd tier: Children abused without the pretence of status

Often male, procured extra-familially, or trafficked into organised abuse by parents for money/drugs

Later onset of organised abuse (later childhood, early teens)

Similar diversity and severity of abusive practices as first tier

No compensatory promises of future role/status

Sometimes trafficked opportunistically between multiple perpetrator groups

More frequent reports of commercial abuse (pornography, prostitution)

Abuse frequently ceases in early-to-mid teens


3rd tier: Children at risk of death or severe injury

Children without any protective safeguards (e.g. parent, caregiver, no legal status)

Children born to teenage/adult victims

“Runaways”, Indigenous children or other vulnerable groups


What are the risk factors for organised abuse?

Invaliding environment at home, school and in the community


Now, I spent a lot of my time absolutely black and blue from these people [the abusers]. They’d butt out their cigarettes on me, they’d use me as an ashtray, they’d piss on me, they’d shit on me, they’d belt the fuck out of me, kick me around the room if I didn’t do something properly. But nobody in my family noticed it. Nobody noticed my distress on that first occasion. Nor any other time. It was just put down to me being a clumsy kid. (Neil)



Compounding social factors

Limited alternatives for abused women and children
State intervention in abuse infrequent and harmful

Law enforcement in child abuse ineffective

Symptoms of trauma and distress frequently misinterpreted as evidence of intellectual or moral weakness


Case history: Renee

42, on disability support following a recent hospitalisation, cared for by her partner.

Multiple physical health concerns, particularly arthritis and bone spurs.

Mental health concerns include bipolar depression, insomnia, nightmares, suicide attempts, chronic psychosomatic pain, and episodic paranoia.

History of harmful mental health treatment, including incorrect diagnosis, inappropriate medication and re-victimising hospitalisation.
Currently seeing a sexual assault counsellor and psychiatrist, and feeling comfortable with them.


The context to Renee’s organised abuse

Renee’s stepfather, Mark, was sexually abusive and physically abusive.

Renee’s mother was a victim of domestic violence who drank and used drugs heavily.

Mark has previously been involved in the commercial production of pornography, and had a relationship with the owners of a nearby photographic studio that abutted a brothel.

Renee’s mother sometimes posed topless at the studio for money.

Renee and her sister played in the streets after school with the other “latch key kids”.
They are approached one day by the owners of the studio, Amy and Frank.


Renee’s transition into organised abuse

So they basically befriended us and started saying things like, “How pretty you are!” and that they took photos of pretty children and, y’know, like, you are this chosen, special one.

It sort of went from talking outside, from opening the studio doors up, and there were photos of children on the walls … And that’s how it started, with, just, “take pretty pictures”.

And, look, I can’t remember the exact step from being in the studio to, one day, lying on this mattress with another kid just in our underwear on, and simulating sex. But we had been shown, by Frank and Amy, and we were being filmed.

… It was always – we were always told it was love. Our games after school were called S and L, which was "sex and love“.



The emotional dynamics of exploitation

Renee: Like, it may sound really bizarre but I looked forward to going to see them. [cries] And I really, I guess, felt loved in some way that I wasn’t getting from home.

Michael: What was it about Amy and Frank? What had they done to make you feel –
R: Because they told me how beautiful I was. And how pretty. And, y’know, not “many children are like that, and you are”. Really played on that. And “we want to be your friend”.



The abuse escalates

Adults begin to participate in the sexually abusive activity in the studio
The children are threatened with death if they disclose the abuse

Drugs and sedatives are used to disorientate the children
Abusive practices begin to diversify and intensify, incorporating new “games”, costumes, scenarios, and sadistic acts

The children are tortured for disobedience, using techniques that don’t leave a mark

The children are instructed to recruit other children for sexual abuse


New sites of organised abuse emerge

Um, then it went to going to, what I now know, was the brothel owner’s house. And other children and … [crying] being given these lollies [drugs] again. And, like, a game, but there were lots of older men there. And it was almost like a, like a “pick the child” thing.
… And – like every time, this would happen – we would go to sleep, and come out of it and getting told that you’d had this terrible dream, “you poor thing”. And you knew deep down, that, nope, something terrible had happened.



Questions without answers

Police corruption or perpetrator “games”?

The police came to my house once. As I said, we were latch key kids, and I was home from school one day, and the police knocked on my door.
And there was a man and a lady. I can’t remember word for word but it was basically, “We’ve been told to come and see you because you’ve been telling stories.” Now. I truly don’t … believe they were real police. They may have been, I don’t know, but they took me for a walk up the street and back home and that was it.


Questions without answers

What else did Renee witness?

Everyone has there own memories, and they are their memories, and it’s their reality – but I had memories of, y’know, blood. And having to clean up blood.

But I know it wasn’t. Like … when I was a child, I believed it was blood. But I know now it wasn’t. Tomato sauce or something.



Parental complicity

… Mark was a part of what was going on. How much a part, I don’t know. I have a memory of him being at one of the “parties”. I have another very vivid memory of his red truck, of him backing up into the driveway of this studio, Frank opening the big doors – I have a very vivid memory of money exchanging hands.

… Mum was inducted, so to speak. She did a bit of, um, ah, “modelling” work at the time as well, in which she just had, like, cossie bottoms on … I’m sure it was for the people in the studio, the same place. She went there, y’know. She knew I went there.



Stigmatisation by her local community
and revictimisation


In school, I was, y’know ,the one that everyone’s parents would say, “Don’t hang around with that Renee, y’know, she’s bad news”. So I always had this, y’know, I was a bad kid, and always in trouble.
My deputy head principal at high school, I have never actually said the words, [cries] but he was into abusing girls. And, y’know, we all wore uniforms up to here, and I’ve got memories of him, cos I was always getting sent to him – saying “Step back a bit, step back a bit”, so that he could see.




And I remember him telling me to pull my dress higher, and going around the side of his desk and he is having a wank. And him saying something like, “I know people who know you.”

It was well known. There was a group of us that were just dead shits at the school, and we knew it was going to happen when we got called to his office.



Points to consider

Renee was vulnerable to organised abuse because her basic needs weren’t being met at home

The perpetrators were the only attachment figures in Renee’s life, forging strong emotional bonds through promises of love and threats of harm.

Renee’s capacity to remember her abuse has been deliberately interfered with through drugs and torture.

Renee will probably never know everything that happened to her.


The organised abuse was able to continue because Renee was stigmatised by her school and local community
This stigmatisation placed her at risk of revictimisation and limited her opportunities to find help.

Renee continues to live with a high level of chronic disability associated with her history of abuse, although she has been seeking mental health treatment for 17 years.

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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:24 pm

I can't get those links up and I live in this fucking country.

If thats the sort of thing Stephen Conroys new internet filtering system is meant to block then I'm going to Canberra to punch him in the face.

My deputy head principal at high school, I have never actually said the words, [cries] but he was into abusing girls. And, y’know, we all wore uniforms up to here, and I’ve got memories of him, cos I was always getting sent to him – saying “Step back a bit, step back a bit”, so that he could see.


A very good friend of mine was abused from the age of 3, and worked as a child prostitute from about 8 years old till we met her when she was 17.

Her stepdad was the deputy principle of a posh Melbourne private school, PLC or MLC, and a fucking rape councellor.

She was probably involved in a similar network or the same one. It was pretty fucking full on, and getting her to deal with it, and start healing herself was one of the most difficult things I had ever been involved in.

Pretty scary too, there were some nasty people involved.

She seems OK these days tho I hardly ever see her, being stuck in Melbourne while I live in paradise.

Anyway right now I'm pissed off about not being able to view those pages. I don't think Conroy's nationwide net filter has actually come into use yet, but being unable to view those sites makes me wonder.
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Postby American Dream » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:12 pm

Joe Hillshoist wrote:
I can't get those links up and I live in this fucking country.


Try again now. The URL's came from Google, and each had an extra"." on the end.

Now corrected.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:16 pm

Cheers.
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Postby LilyPatToo » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:19 pm

Joe, I'm getting "Page not found" messages when I try to access them, too--and that's from the US. Not sure what's up with that--???

Glad you were able to help your friend deal with her awful personal history--bless you for your patience and compassion and outrage. Too many people just instinctively shy away from any survivor of sexual trauma. I wish I knew how much of that is natural knee-jerk avoidance-of-nasty-stuff and how much is conditioned response brought about by mass MC that came into being to protect the perps.

And I'm glad this thread exists--thank you American Dream. Just recently I came across the term "C-PTSD" and was pleased to see that at least a few people within the mental health community are beginning to differentiate between what I and other survivors of chronic abuse now have and what people traumatized once or twice in a more conventional sense have to deal with afterward.

There is such a huge breadth to the term "PTSD" as it's currently used. And most people only understand it to apply to victims of wars or to survivors of muggings. All the complexity of growing up in an abusive environment is ignored, even though our basic personalities have been profoundly altered (no pun intended, believe me) by our helplessness in the face of adult aggression. It will be interesting to see if the newer, more specific term is permitted to come into wider use.

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[Edited to add--now the links automatically download a document to my computer--I'd prefer to go to a page, if that's possible]
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:32 pm

To be honest Lilypat, I dunno if I'd have had the patience to go through all that if I knew what I was getting into.

But there was something incredibly rewarding about it. I can see that now looking back. When we met she had a one year boy, and he was next in line to join the cult. He was a pretty looking boy too, bright blue eyes and white blonde hair. I remember her being intears when she mentioned how happy one of her handlers/pimps was that she had such a cute child.

That kid is gonna be 18 soon, and tho I have hardly seen him in the last 5 or 6 years when I last saw him he was happy, together and doing well. My bro in melbourne sees them fairly often and I know they are doing OK.

Thats one of those things, you know when I die thats one of those things I'm gonna look back and really be proud of. One of the few "good things" I know I have done. Makes me tear up a bit thinking it actually.
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Postby Avalon » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:16 pm

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Postby LilyPatToo » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:25 pm

If it helps, Joe--no day goes by that I don't thank Heaven (if it exists) that I've had friends to help me through the years that I've been delving into my own mess of a past. Without their support and incredible patience, I'd be dead now and I know that absolutely, since I've been suicidal since around kindergarten age and made a couple of attempts in my 20's when things were particularly horrific. Friends have made the difference in my life and kept me strong enough to search for answers despite all the emotional baggage, cruelty of ignorant people and continuing interference from perps.

You did a Good Thing and a woman has had another chance at life and so has a boy, as a direct result. Some good deeds shine on through time and the ripple effect from them keeps on spreading positive change far afield. I hope for that sort of intervention for each other human being growing up the way I did.

There really are more good folks than perverted, damaged monsters in the world--what's needed is to get the Good Guys to read articles like the ones above and wake up to the actions of the socio/psychopathic abusers among us. And work to stop them. Slavery is an evil that can be eradicated, but not as long as the public is kept in the dark, dis- or misinformed and distracted.

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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:30 pm

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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:33 pm

LilyPatToo wrote:There really are more good folks than perverted, damaged monsters in the world--what's needed is to get the Good Guys to read articles like the ones above and wake up to the actions of the socio/psychopathic abusers among us. And work to stop them. Slavery is an evil that can be eradicated, but not as long as the public is kept in the dark, dis- or misinformed and distracted.

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Beautiful and true. Sometimes its hard to keep your faith in humanity when you see so much bad stuff. But the good stuff is there too. Everywhere, its so common we often fail to notice it, its part of the background or the fabric of the world.

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