Prince Charles's penchant for pedophiles

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Prince Charles's penchant for pedophiles

Postby RocketMan » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:28 pm

I mean what's up with that? Is he just susceptible to flattery and yes men or does his choice of confidantes reflect his own predilections in some way?

Jeff posted this column on Facebook, and I just remembered that I wondered already in the case of Jimmy Savile about how extremely close they apparently were and why no more of a fuss was created. Is it really believable that he had no idea about what that cigar-munching bastard was up to...?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... her-in-law

So long as fresh Markle dramas allow the portrayal of Charles and his family as comparatively reliable, it’s possible the prince’s habit of confiding in men – Laurens van der Post and Jimmy Savile having preceded Ball – who struck others as questionable and repellent, will, once again, be forgotten. Or, at least, be attributed to bad luck. Or, to take a more Bracknellish line – “to befriend two paedophiles, your royal highness, may be regarded as a misfortune; to befriend three…” – to carelessness. As opposed to indicating a self-regard so fathomless as to leave the heir to the throne, surrounded by his habitually grovelling court, vulnerable to any appropriately qualified sycophant.

What would that tell us about Charles’s fitness to inherit? Even Jonathan Dimbleby, in his doting 1994 biography, suggests that a less susceptible reader than the prince might have gathered, from van der Post’s insinuating twaddle, that this shameless charlatan was also “a flatterer and a self-publicist”.

The seer (reportedly still revered by Charles) was discovered, after his death, to have had sex with, that is, raped and then impregnated, a 14-year-old girl who had been entrusted to his care. This is not to suggest that Charles should have somehow detected – where, similarly, did none of Mrs Thatcher, BBC executives and any number of Ball’s devout co-workers – that his favourites were also sex offenders.
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Re: Prince Charles's penchant for pedophiles

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:58 pm

First off, pedophiles are often charming. As much as John Wayne Gacy is a caricature today, it's important to remember the man it was based on - pillar of the community, local Democratic Party operator, Key Man for the Jaycees. They are charming because they have to be, in order to operate safely. The more power they can attain, the safer they are, it's an imperative.

Second, the UK, even more than the US, have an intergenerational elite who are educated & formed at private boarding schools. Part of that education is sexual abuse, and that's been true for centuries in England.

(The UK also has the "D Notice," which accounts for a great deal of why no more of a fuss was created about Jimmy's fixes.)

As for the deeper motivations, well, I've been reading a book about about precisely that by a Canadian fellow named Jeff Wells, it's quite good despite apparently being cobbled together from blog posts. Highly recommended.

It has to at least be countenanced that pedophiles are uniquely suited for the demands of running a Deep State, which is why those ranks tend to be full of such men. (Geoffrey Prime being perhaps the apex specimen.) Mormons are great for desk jobs and operations, but you need something far more savvy orchestrating the circus.

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Re: Prince Charles's penchant for pedophiles

Postby liminalOyster » Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:06 pm

Wombat, did you catch the #spiritcooking discussion in the Emma Best dump?


[2016-11-04 15:50:06] <WikiLeaks> A lot of US east coast elite play with esotericism as a status signal to other elites. Like having a psychiatrist was a status signal.

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Re: Prince Charles's penchant for pedophiles

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:39 pm

liminalOyster » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:06 pm wrote:Wombat, did you catch the #spiritcooking discussion in the Emma Best dump?


No. Worth anything? I don't get the impression Assange is much more knowledgeable than us.
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Re: Prince Charles's penchant for pedophiles

Postby liminalOyster » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:50 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:39 pm wrote:
liminalOyster » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:06 pm wrote:Wombat, did you catch the #spiritcooking discussion in the Emma Best dump?


No. Worth anything? I don't get the impression Assange is much more knowledgeable than us.


Nada. And it does reinforce the impression that Assange is a bit of a turnip trucker.
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Re: Prince Charles's penchant for pedophiles

Postby Cordelia » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:11 am

Wombaticus Rex » Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:58 pm wrote:Second, the UK, even more than the US, have an intergenerational elite who are educated & formed at private boarding schools. Part of that education is sexual abuse, and that's been true for centuries in England.


Refreshing memory of Main Street media covering elite schools on both sides of Atlantic from several years. Doubt much is really changed.

Wave of Sexual Abuse Allegations for Private Boys’ Schools in Britain

By Stephen Castle

March 16, 2014

LONDON — Prompted by publicity surrounding recent child abuse scandals involving well-known figures, dozens of British men are breaking decades of silence about molestation they say they suffered as boys at expensive private schools, forcing the schools to confront allegations that in the past might have been hushed up, ignored or treated derisively.

In one instance involving Aldwickbury School, which educates boys ages 4 to 13, a former student, who requested anonymity because of the intimate details of the case, said he suffered profound feelings of confusion and guilt after being abused by a teacher in the 1970s. He said the teacher molested him regularly during English lessons over a period of two years.

With the teacher dead, and in the absence of an apology from the school, the former student brought a civil case against Aldwickbury, which was settled with a payment.

Getting the school to face up to what happened more than three decades ago was, the former student said, like “knocking my head against a brick wall.”

Vernon Hales, the current headmaster at Aldwickbury — in Harpenden, about 30 miles north of London — said in a statement that the school had reported the allegations, which do not relate to any current staff members or pupils, to the relevant authorities and been told that no further action would be taken.
“All child abuse is horrendous and to be deplored,” Mr. Hales said. “We extend our deepest sympathy to the victims of abuse, and even when the cases are historic, this does not lessen the anguish that they feel.” He added that the school “takes child protection extremely seriously.”

The former Aldwickbury student is one of dozens of people who have come forward, driven in part by the public scandal surrounding Jimmy Savile, a television presenter who, after his death, was revealed to have been a serial sex abuser. The Savile case prompted a wide-ranging criminal inquiry that led to charges against other prominent people, adding to the attention being paid to abuse cases from years or decades ago.

Last month, a former headmaster of Caldicott, a school in Buckinghamshire attended by Nick Clegg, the deputy prime minister, was jailed for past child abuse offenses. The former headmaster, Roland Peter Wright, now 83, was convicted of abusing students 8 to 13 from 1959 to 1970.

“Boys craved your attention and strove for your praise,” Judge Johannah Cutts said as she sentenced Mr. Wright to eight years in jail. “From those, you picked out boys for your individual sexual attentions.”

Mr. Clegg said last year that he had been unaware of the abuse but was appalled.

Other schools facing compensation claims include Ashdown House, which has educated, among others, the queen’s nephew, Viscount Linley, and the mayor of London, Boris Johnson.

Most of these claims are directed at Britain’s preparatory schools, which typically admit children 4 to 13, with students living at the school starting at 7 or 8. Fees can be substantial, but in a country where private schooling is often seen as a key to success, many parents pay up in an effort to prepare pupils for entry to famous establishments for older children, like Eton College, Harrow School and Winchester College (known in Britain as public schools despite being private and expensive).

Britain’s fee-paying schools have a track record of brutality. These days, most have shed the strictness and austerity of previous eras, but many upper-class Britons remember childhoods of cold showers, inedible food and relentless corporal punishment.

The very nature of boarding schools — closed environments in which teachers can wield enormous power — can make them attractive to child abusers. But in previous decades, parents were often reluctant to challenge teachers’ authority, said Alan Collins, principal lawyer at Slater & Gordon, which represented the former Aldwickbury student. He has 30 to 40 more cases pending against schools across the country.

“You had deference and the attitude that ‘this sort of thing happens,’ ” Mr. Collins said, adding that when teachers were discovered abusing pupils, they tended to be moved on quietly to avoid public embarrassment and damage to the school’s reputation.

“Sexual abuse is a taboo subject,” Mr. Collins said. “People do not want to talk about it for the obvious reason that it’s really gruesome, and in this country there has been a tendency or a temptation to sweep it under the carpet.”

The cases he is pursuing took place all over the country and ranged “from inappropriate touching to very intrusive penetration and everything in between,” he said.

Mr. Collins added that the victims had suffered significantly. “Child abuse has the potential to affect a person’s functioning, the ability to form and sustain relationships; it can affect the ability to hold down a job,” he said, noting that some of his clients in their 40s had held 30 positions because “they just can’t settle in a job.”

Because of constraints set by their insurers, schools are often reluctant to issue apologies that could expose them to further legal action.

But the victim in the Aldwickbury case believes it is time for his old school to confront the past. “They need, for their own sakes, to come out about this,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/worl ... itain.html



Private schools, painful secrets


May 07, 2016

More than 200 victims. At least 90 legal claims. At least 67 private schools in New England. This is the story of hundreds of students sexually abused by staffers, and emerging from decades of silence today.

This story was reported by Spotlight team reporters Jenn Abelson, Bella English, Jonathan Saltzman, and Todd Wallack, with editors Scott Allen and Amanda Katz.

Steven Starr reached into the back of his hallway closet and fished out the old camera, a gift nearly 50 years ago from the man he says molested him.

“It’s like a talisman or a grim reminder,’’ he said, holding the dusty Minolta Autocord in his Los Angeles apartment. Not that he could ever forget what he alleges happened to him when he was 11 at the Fessenden School.

In 1968, he was a lonely sixth-grader from Long Island when he met James Dallmann, a Harvard graduate who taught geography at the all-boys private school in West Newton and was an avid photographer.

Dallmann took Starr under his wing. He made the boy his apprentice and encouraged him to visit the teacher’s bedroom in their dorm at Moore Hall after lights out to learn how to use his makeshift darkroom. The teacher photographed Starr and delighted the boy by giving him the twin-lens Minolta.

Then one night, Starr said, Dallmann served him a mix of Tang and vodka, got him to pose naked for pictures on a bed, and performed oral sex on him. This is our secret, Dallmann told Starr, who said the abuse went on for about a year.

For nearly half a century, Starr kept his feelings of betrayal and humiliation inside, sharing his story only with therapists and a few confidants.

But now he is among a growing number of former students at New England private schools who are breaking their silence about sexual abuse by staffers. They are emboldened by a cascade of recent revelations about cases — many of them decades old — that were often ignored or covered up when first reported, and that school administrators still struggle to handle appropriately today.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/ ... story.html


Report names 12 at Choate Rosemary Hall who allegedly abused students


By Jonathan Saltzman Globe Staff April 13, 2017

A scathing report Thursday named a dozen former educators of Choate Rosemary Hall who allegedly sexually abused or assaulted students at the elite Connecticut boarding school since the 1960s, including a Spanish teacher who, witnesses said, forced a female student to engage in sex in a swimming pool while on a school trip in Costa Rica.

The report, by an investigator hired by the school, graphically recounts the experiences of 24 survivors of sexual misconduct and cites a consistent pattern: In almost all of the cases, school officials failed to report sexual misconduct to the authorities when the accusations first surfaced and quietly fired teachers or allowed them to resign.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/ ... story.html


.....so forth and so on.
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Re: Prince Charles's penchant for pedophiles

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:33 pm

Given the M.O. of Savile, this is probably worth looking at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince%27s_Trust

Michael Fawcett and Harold Haywood are both fruitful lines of inquiry there. Kevin Spacey was an Ambassador for this charity that aims to help homeless and disadvantaged youth.

Via: http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... _of_child/

Roger Benson’s child victim confronted him from the witness box at Bradford Crown Court yesterday, telling him: "I feel dirty, damaged, ashamed and rubbish."

Benson, 77, of Victoria Mills, Salts Mill Road, Shipley, pleaded guilty to five offences of indecent assault on three occasions in September 1986.

....

Judge Rose said Benson had been involved in very important work with the Prince’s Trust.

He told him: "I wonder if that work would have continued a day longer if the trust, if the Prince of Wales, had known you were a paedophile?"


The judge ordered Benson to sign on the sex offenders’ register for life and he made a Sexual Harm Prevention Order banning him from ever having any contact with his victim.


The answer to the rhetorical question above is, of course: "Yes."

To be fair to the house of Albion, pretty much any children-focused charity that has existed for more than a decade will have someone like that in the ranks. They are creatures of opportunity.
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