Who's Afraid of John Edwards?

sunny · Post by **sunny** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:27 pm

Go chig!

Hope you bring back a report. The news is saying turnout is 3 and 4 times larger than in '04 in some precincts.

ETA:Repeated quote since the start: "Clinton and Obama have larger initial support."

sunny · Post by **sunny** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:47 pm

Olbermann keeps repeating entrance poll results, putting Obama ahead and Clinton and Edwards vying for second. But this site has Edwards with a slight advantage, with actual results, I presume:

http://www.iowacaucusresults.com/

chiggerbit · Post by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:32 pm

Done. Edwards got three delegates, Obama and Hillary got two each. Yipee! Of course, you have to understand that this is a county with a total population of 8,000, with several precincts, not exactly the norm here. But yes, the Dem turnout was a record-breaker.

Post by **Jeff** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:33 pm

Looks like the networks are calling it for Obama and Huckabee.

sunny · Post by **sunny** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:37 pm

Jeff wrote:Looks like the networks are calling it for Obama and Huckabee.

Yes, with Edwards coming in slightly ahead of Clinton. I want to hear them say Edwards has to drop out now because he didn't win. Will they say the same about Clinton?

Edwards was outspent 8-1. I daresay this is a good result for him.

Post by **Jeff** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:39 pm

sunny wrote: Edwards was outspent 8-1. I daresay this is a good result for him.

Yes, hopefully he can hold on to second.

chiggerbit · Post by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:40 pm

If course, the number of delegates for each candidate does not accurately reflect how close the votes were--33 for Clinton, 37 for Obama, 40 for Edwards. Fairly tight, really.

sunny · Post by **sunny** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:42 pm

Jeff wrote:
sunny wrote: Edwards was outspent 8-1. I daresay this is a good result for him.
Yes, hopefully he can hold on to second.

Currently:

Senator Barack Obama : 36.72%
Senator John Edwards : 30.16%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 30.03%
Precincts Reporting: 1518 of 1781

chiggerbit · Post by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:49 pm

http://www.iowacaucusresults.com/

professorpan · Post by **professorpan** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:00 pm

It's absolutely bizarre how CNN is not even MENTIONING Edwards. It's all the Obama and Hillary show -- as if the anchors and commentators don't dare go off-script.

sunny · Post by **sunny** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:04 pm

professorpan wrote:It's absolutely bizarre how CNN is not even MENTIONING Edwards. It's all the Obama and Hillary show -- as if the anchors and commentators don't dare go off-script.

It's the same on MSNBC. Utterly bizarre.

professorpan · Post by **professorpan** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:11 pm

Now, the talking heads are yammering about the 2nd place race.

And every answer -- every single one -- is turned into a discussion of Hillary. NOT A MENTION OF EDWARDS!

John King, David Gergen, Suzanne Malveaux, Gloria Borger -- every single one of them avoided mention of Edwards. Persona non grata. They can't even say his fucking name.

And Donna Brazile finally mentioned his name, and in a few sentences, dismissed him as having limited campaign money and an "uphill battle." Then Bill (ack) Bennett said (paraphrasing) "this is going to be a battle between Obama and Clinton."

professorpan · Post by **professorpan** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:13 pm

I'm stopping by Daily Kos -- a hotbed of Edwards activity. Surely... for the love of God... somebody else must be noticing this Soviet-style airbrushing of Edwards out of reality.... right?

sunny · Post by **sunny** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:20 pm

professorpan wrote:I'm stopping by Daily Kos -- a hotbed of Edwards activity. Surely... for the love of God... somebody else must be noticing this Soviet-style airbrushing of Edwards out of reality.... right?

Folks at FDL are sure noticing, but it's hit and miss trying to get into that place.

Edwards speaking now: "corporate greed has a stranglehold on America". Pointing out the injustice of Exxon Mobil's obscene profits and the number of Americans who can't get health care.

Hopefully, New Hampshire is paying attention.

professorpan · Post by **professorpan** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:23 pm

Edwards is speaking now (declaring himself the 2nd place winner). Talking about corporate greed and health care.