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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:20 pm
by Karmamatterz
And there you have it in the Wapo today.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... ge%2Fstory
Republicans had better get used to such jarring juxtapositions, now that the party has embraced a man who traffics in racist politics and conspiracy theories.
Granted of course Trump says stooooopid racist crap all the time. But here is another angle. Trash people who speak publicly about conspiracy theory. By juxtaposing the racism with conspiracy theory you instantly create the perception the guy is off his rocker. Of course we know he is, but I'm ok with his talking conspiracy even if he is racist. Does not mean I like or support the blow hard, but more power to him if he wants to rail on about Dubya's lies and shenanigans post 911.

I do tend to think Trump is merely placating a segment of voters trying to come off as challenging mainstream ideas about past events. He can't pull it off like Bernie can but would like a few of those voters knowing Hillary will be his opponent. It's no different than the race baiting he does, just a different genre in the reality stew.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 2:41 pm
by Iamwhomiam
As I see it, Trump is merely echoing a tactic adopted by the tea party soon after its formation: early Tea Party members, through gun control arguments, discovered Saul Alinsky and decided to incorporate the worst of his techniques, to disparage and demean one's opponent. And it has worked wonderfully to bully Congress into line. The Tea Party has effectively taken over control of the Republican Party from its long established power brokers, something the leftist radicals Alinsky was reaching, community organizers and educators only dreamed of. See Alinsky's Rules for Radicals for more.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:31 pm
by zangtang
How about you get used to the idea of him? - because i think he's going to be your next El Presidente.....

- i'm relatively confident the out-of-control power centers will continue to behave in an out-of-control fashion one way or the other.....

if you didn't see the last mission impossible film.........you should.

I suspect the hidden truths therein - are in fact hidden truths.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:48 pm
by Iamwhomiam
I still strongly feel Trump will be indicted before the general election, Trump U fraud.

I will never get used to the idea of him as that would mean giving up my ideals.

He's a boil due for lancing.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:57 pm
by 82_28
At the very least, having to put up with seeing and hearing that guy for four years is enough for me. More important is the racism and sexism. But at the very least having to intellectually deal with that dick will be way too much. I don't care how well or funny the comedians continue to have a field day with his very existence -- I'm sure they're kinda getting sick of it too. He needs to go away. I so wish he would.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:10 pm
by seemslikeadream
Iamwhomiam » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:48 pm wrote:I still strongly feel Trump will be indicted before the general election, Trump U fraud.

I will never get used to the idea of him as that would mean giving up my ideals.

He's a boil due for lancing.

Trump goes on trial Nov. 28 after the presidential election but before the inauguration

If he is elected he will immediately face impeachment? Can someone convicted of fraud be president?

wonder who will be his VP...... :P

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:23 pm
by Iamwhomiam
Jeeze, slad, you should become a scriptwriter for the soaps! What a frightening scenario you present. I hadn't considered that he could still be elected after being indicted! Or about the as yet unknown unknown VP. And we have a stalemated scotus!

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:31 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
seemslikeadream » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:10 pm wrote:
wonder who will be his VP...... :P
Paul Ryan.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:35 pm
by Novem5er
Is Trump going on trial personally? Or just the organization of Trump U?

There is a difference. If he is named as a personal defendant, then this could be a big story.

And with Hillary's ongoing email issue (which again wont be resolved until after the election), is this the first time where BOTH candidates are facing legal problems during the height of their campaign? Usually the scandals come well before or well after an election.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:44 pm
by seemslikeadream
it's him personally ...in 3 different cases...this is just one


his trial is supposed to take about a month.....it is the second oldest case waiting on the judges doc.....if he is elected it will be before the trial starts...then he will be found guilty before he is sworn in ...what fun


he will have to be testifying at his trial after he is elected

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:56 pm
by seemslikeadream
Wombaticus Rex » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:31 pm wrote:
seemslikeadream » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:10 pm wrote:
wonder who will be his VP...... :P
Paul Ryan.

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never ...never.....never.... :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIr5s6IYjB8

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:31 am
by seemslikeadream
Ex-Texas official: Trump U probe dropped due to politics
By MICHAEL BIESECKER
Jun. 4, 2016 2:52 AM EDT



WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has moved to muzzle a former state regulator who says he was ordered in 2010 to drop a fraud investigation into Trump University for political reasons.

Paxton's office issued a cease and desist letter to former Deputy Chief of Consumer Protection John Owens on Friday after Owens made public copies of a 14-page internal summary of the state's case against Donald Trump for scamming millions from students of his now-defunct real estate seminar.

Owens, now retired, said his team had built a solid case against the now-presumptive Republican presidential nominee, but was told to drop it after Trump's company agreed to cease operations in Texas.

The former state regulator told The Associated Press on Friday that decision was highly unusual and left the bilked students on their own to attempt to recover their tuition money from the celebrity businessman.

According to the documents provided by Owens, his team sought to sue Trump, his company and several business associates to help recover more than $2.6 million students spent on seminars and materials, plus another $2.8 million in penalties and fees.

Owens said he was so surprised at the order to stand down he made a copy of the case file and took it home.

"It had to be political in my mind because Donald Trump was treated differently than any other similarly situated scam artist in the 16 years I was at the consumer protection office," said Owens, who lives in Houston.

Owens' boss at the time was Greg Abbott, then the attorney general and now the state's GOP governor.

The AP first reported Thursday that Trump gave donations totaling $35,000 to Abbott's gubernatorial campaign three years after his office closed the Trump U case. Several Texas media outlets then reported Owens' accusation that the probe was dropped for political reasons.

Abbott spokesman Matt Hirsch said Friday that the governor had played no role in ending the case against Trump, a decision he said was made further down the chain of command.

"The Texas Attorney General's office investigated Trump U, and its demands were met — Trump U was forced out of Texas and consumers were protected," Hirsch said. "It's absurd to suggest any connection between a case that has been closed and a donation to Gov. Abbott three years later."

Paxton issued a media release about the cease and desist later Friday, saying Owens had divulged "confidential and privileged information."

Owens first learned about the state's action against him on Friday afternoon when contacted by the AP for response.

"I have done nothing illegal or unethical," said Owens, a lawyer. "I think the information I provided to the press was important and needed to be shared with the public."

Paxton faces his own legal trouble. He was indicted last year on three felony fraud charges alleging that he persuaded people to invest in a North Texas tech startup while failing to disclose that he hadn't invested himself but was being paid by the company in stock. Paxton has remained in office while appealing the charges.

Texas was not the only GOP-led state to shy away from suing Trump.

Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi briefly considered joining a multistate suit against Trump U. Three days after Bondi's spokeswoman was quoted in local media reports as saying her office was investigating, Trump's family foundation made a $25,000 contribution to a political fundraising committee supporting Bondi's re-election campaign.

Bondi, a Republican, soon dropped her investigation, citing insufficient grounds to proceed.

In New York, meanwhile, Democratic Attorney General Eric Schneiderman sued Trump over what he called a "straight-up fraud." That case, along with several class-action lawsuits filed by former Trump students, is ongoing.

Trump, for his part, is standing by his namesake real estate seminars, saying he plans to resurrect Trump University if elected president.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:26 pm
by NeonLX
Wombaticus Rex » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:31 pm wrote:
seemslikeadream » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:10 pm wrote:
wonder who will be his VP...... :P
Paul Ryan.
Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick. I can't imagine anything more vile than a Drumpf/Ryan ticket. Fuck. I recently got my passport. I may have to use it.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:56 pm
by Grizzly
I'm hearing murmurings of Newt Gingrich, for VP, but then again, I hear these every election cycle.

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:26 pm
by NeonLX
I think he will ask $hillary to be the veep.