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Interesting case, a possible sex affair between Manning and one of Obama's drones.
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The Bradley Manning story in the CIA media is pure fiction.

Learn from it. Framing extraordinaire.
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Simulist wrote:Politics does make strange bedfellows; and bedfellows sometimes make strange politics, too.
I just find it a bit odd that one minute he's apparently being pressured for sex by one of Barry's henchmen, the next minute he's in prison being tortured. I'm not suggesting that the Homintern are behind it all.
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Patsy.
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The Case Against Alleged WikiLeaks Supplier Bradley Manning Takes a Strange Turn
DEC 19 2011, 2:44 PM ET

The military hearing that will determine whether Bradley Manning will receive a court martial for his alleged role in leaking documents to WikiLeaks took a strange turn. In a courthouse in Fort Meade, Maryland, a prosecution witness testified that he found thousands of State Department cables on Manning's computer, but those cables did *not* match those released by WikiLeaks.

If the cables found on Manning's computer don't match the ones WikiLeaks has, the defense can argue that Julian Assange's outfit may have had a different source for the documents. Wired's Kim Zetter was in the courtroom and filed a report on this dramatic moment, which could become a lynchpin of the defense's case.

Special Agent David Shaver, a forensic investigator with the Army's Computer Crimes Investigations Unit, testified Sunday that he'd found 10,000 U.S. diplomatic cables in HTML format on the soldier's classified work computer, as well as a corrupted text file containing more than 100,000 complete cables...

But Shaver said none of the documents that he found on Manning's computer matched those that WikiLeaks published.

Shaver wasn't asked how many cables he compared to the WikiLeaks cables. In re-direct examination, however, he noted that the CSV file in which the cables were contained was corrupted and suggested this might indicate that it had not been possible to pass those cables to WikiLeaks for this reason. The defense objected to this assumption, however, noting that Shaver could not speculate on why the cables were not among those released by WikiLeaks.

The revelation is a bit confusing, but it could be the first chink in the prosecution's forensic case against Manning.

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Wow. Maybe he's really not guilty, i.e., he didn't do it. At all.
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barracuda wrote:Wow. Maybe he's really not guilty, i.e., he didn't do it. At all.
And why would be be framed up for this? :coolshades
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Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:
barracuda wrote:Wow. Maybe he's really not guilty, i.e., he didn't do it. At all.
And why would be be framed up for this? :coolshades
Well, for one thing to scare the piss out of anyone who might even be thinking about telling the unvarnished truth (with evidence to back it up).
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Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:And why would be be framed up for this?
Prolly to keyword hijack some bullshit.
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barracuda wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:And why would be be framed up for this?
Prolly to keyword hijack some bullshit.
Wasn't Hugh arguing previously that Manning didn't exist? This is progress.
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Special Agent David Shaver, a forensic investigator with the Army's Computer Crimes Investigations Unit, testified Sunday that he'd found 10,000 U.S. diplomatic cables in HTML format on the soldier's classified work computer, as well as a corrupted text file containing more than 100,000 complete cables...

I'm sure somebody with more experience will hopefully weigh in because i'm not an internet guru. But, when you read things on the internet it stores it in your cache for quicker retrieval the next time you read it right? And the next time you read it your puter checks for any updates and updates the html right? So it would not be odd for a bunch of html files to be on his computer if he had been reading those files on the internet? Right?
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eyeno wrote:
Special Agent David Shaver, a forensic investigator with the Army's Computer Crimes Investigations Unit, testified Sunday that he'd found 10,000 U.S. diplomatic cables in HTML format on the soldier's classified work computer, as well as a corrupted text file containing more than 100,000 complete cables...
I'm sure somebody with more experience will hopefully weigh in because i'm not an internet guru. But, when you read things on the internet it stores it in your cache for quicker retrieval the next time you read it right? And the next time you read it your puter checks for any updates and updates the html right? So it would not be odd for a bunch of html files to be on his computer if he had been reading those files on the internet? Right?
I'm sure they can tell the difference.

Also:
https://rt.com/usa/news/obama-declares-manning-guilty/

Shades of Nixon declaring Manson guilty, nearly wrecking the trial.
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barracuda wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:And why would be be framed up for this?
Prolly to keyword hijack some bullshit.
Shit is fucked up keword highjack and bullshit.
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Stephen Morgan wrote:
barracuda wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:And why would be be framed up for this?
Prolly to keyword hijack some bullshit.
Wasn't Hugh arguing previously that Manning didn't exist? This is progress.
Choosing yet a different sandbox in which to bury ones head isn't progress, merely a different manifestation of the same ailment.
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