What you don't know can't hurt them.
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He's a Tory, you know.blanc wrote:Well, that was pretty racist wasn't it? Intentionally or not he seemed to say thuggery equals black culture, we have white thuggery too because they've adopted black culture. Stupid.
That fuckhead Andrew Bolt has been saying the same thing since this started.blanc wrote:Well, that was pretty racist wasn't it? Intentionally or not he seemed to say thuggery equals black culture, we have white thuggery too because they've adopted black culture. Stupid.
It's intentional. But Starkey'll say pretty much anything for attention. No real historian could be ignorant of the fact that London has been wracked by riots and disorder since it's inception as a large human settlement - like every other big city. I'd ask him how many black people there were in London during the Gin Craze, but he'd probably just call me a drunken jock and run away giggling. He only ever gets past stereotypes when talking about royalty.blanc wrote:Well, that was pretty racist wasn't it? Intentionally or not he seemed to say thuggery equals black culture, we have white thuggery too because they've adopted black culture. Stupid.
I didnt realise that you were also a qualified military strategist. Have you ever been on a naval vessel?kenoma wrote: and may she die the most gruesome death of God's invention.
And please do go fuck yourself you stupid Thatcherite cunt. If you're proud of her legacy, take upon your head the needless murders of hundreds of Argentinian seamen.
No, the people who are responsible for the deaths of the Hunger Strikers are the Hunger Strikers. The only people preventing them from eating were themselves and the fascist parasitic sick money-drven PIRA scum around them, themselves.kenoma wrote:
Take responsibility for the 10 Irish Hunger Strikers Thatcher let die.
Thatch in that role was Prefect for Capitalism. You are treating her like the source of it. Utter utter bollocks. The most useless SWP-esque drivel.kenoma wrote: And the decimated lives of tens of thousands of English and Welsh miners who curse her name daily.
I love how you glide like a hostess from supporting murdering fascist PIRA scumkenoma wrote: And the 3 million unemployed in cities she destroyed like Coventry, Glasgow, Bradford, Sheffield.
And go fuck yourself if you think those newsagents you applaud weren't left in a state of horrible, irrevocable debt by the
viciously pro-banker policies she intiated.
<My own offensive remarks removed on reflection as adding no value>>kenoma wrote:
You're a Thatcherite shit, SO.
Oh I see, bit of a fan of the ole’ nail-bombing knee-cappers in the H blocks are ye….so I can see a bit of murder & arson on the Mainland must be going down a treat…..kenoma wrote:....embarrassing, mouth-frothing rant...
Searcher08 wrote:I didnt realise that you were also a qualified military strategist. Have you ever been on a naval vessel?
Grantham. Less than twenty miles from where I am now. Never been there, so I don't know what they sound like. She always seems to have spoken the same sort of way since her earliest appearances. You do get posh people everywhere, I believe, who all speak about the same. The rich are like gypsies, they don't have any identity with particular regions, but have their own little culture with their own absurd voices.blanc wrote:When did thatcher change accents from what presumably was the norm for a Grantham child to toffier than thou does anyone know?
From a military strategy point of view, sinking the Belgrano was absolutely the right thing to do. The woman is totally missing the point. The only thing she is 'owning' is a lack of strategic insight.Stephen Morgan wrote:Searcher08 wrote:I didnt realise that you were also a qualified military strategist. Have you ever been on a naval vessel?
Both Thatcher and the Junta in Argentina made political capital out of it, but the Foreign Secretary Lord Carrington resigned - a lot of people were blindsided by it in the UK. The war was a pretty intense time - I was working with British Aerospace on ship protection systems. The Argentine AirForce pilots were awe-inspiringly brave. Imagine reading online at their memorial site the letters to their mothers and families, left at base in case they didnt return, seeing pictures of children who would grow up without a father. Yet if we did not everything we could have (wargaming/simulation etc), RN ships would have been turned into fireballs. Some were.blanc wrote:I seem to recall that the Falklands war was according to some commentators provoked by the withdrawal of forces in that area, due to cuts, and that it was politically fortuitous for Thatcher at that time in boosting her popularity.
She's pointing out relevant facts, that the ship was obsolete, heavily crewed and both outside the engagement area specified by the RN and heading further away. It was about as much of a target for proper military action as HMS Belfast.Searcher08 wrote:From a military strategy point of view, sinking the Belgrano was absolutely the right thing to do. The woman is totally missing the point. The only thing she is 'owning' is a lack of strategic insight.Stephen Morgan wrote:Searcher08 wrote:I didnt realise that you were also a qualified military strategist. Have you ever been on a naval vessel?
The Argentine navy never really did much throughout the war.It made no difference which direction it was going in - as the Argentine military said, the whole of the South Atlantic by that time seen as a theatre of operations. The Royal Navy were extremely concerned about the safety of Ascension Island
The Belgrano would have been taken out if it was heading to Antarctica. It had the effect of sending the Argentine Navy back to base.
Yes, the official position of the Argentine navy is that they were neither woefully incompetent nor pathetically obsolete. And the position of Osama bin Laden is that he reached out from his cave and swatted down the twin towers. It's a claim, not an admission.Admiral Enrique Molina Pico, head of the Argentine Navy in the 1990s, wrote in a letter to La Nación, published in the 2 May 2005 edition,[23] that the Belgrano was part of an operation that posed a real threat to the British task force, that it was holding off for tactical reasons, and that being outside of the exclusion zone was unimportant as it was a warship on tactical mission. This is the official position of the Argentine Navy.[24]
Yes, her defence cuts were supposed to get rid of the aircraft carriers, in fact one had to be got back from the scrap metal dealers, the other was soon to follow. Through-deck cruisers, if you prefer. Needed all her resources to fight the real enemy, her own countrymen. Changed her mind when she realised national defence can be a PR boost.blanc wrote:I seem to recall that the Falklands war was according to some commentators provoked by the withdrawal of forces in that area, due to cuts, and that it was politically fortuitous for Thatcher at that time in boosting her popularity.
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