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barracuda wrote:

Nordic wrote:I'm only back on the assumption that the fascist troll was finally banned. I'm not quite sure if he was or not.

That doesn't seem like a very mature attitude, to be honest.

Like I give a shit what your opinion is as to that.

C'mon.

I explained myself earlier and if you don't like it I don't really give a flying fuck.

Life's too short to have to put up with that bullshit and the fact that so many people ARE willing to put up with it disgusts me.

He's as bad as any stormfronter or KKKer or any other piece of shit pond scum you might want to dredge up as an example. Pure human shit.

Just leave him be. We'll all take care of his online ass. You're well liked here, Nordic. Everybody can see through 17. No more animosity. I love your fighting spirit -- I have it myself. Just know that as far as I go and those I have met, you are among friends. We all know who the dickhead is. Remember those old "Stomper" truck toys, they'd climb over everything you put in front of it? Well they always ran out of batteries far too soon. Same thing here.

OMH, yours is a superbly economical explanation of the linguistic trickery that we all seem to be taken in by. This is great work; to become conscious of our unconscious drivers.

Hierarchy endures not by its virtue, but rather because it’s validated by how we consider reality to be. Power will only become distributed horizontally to an extent that reflects conscious understanding of how power is currently generated and distributed vertically.

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Occult Means Hidden wrote…

Merely stolen ideas meaning the opposite to opposite people as a means to disempower.

Yup

JackRiddler wrote: You're almost George Carlin!

And all of it is true.

Nordic?

If you can't demonstrate grace then at least move on, or you won't be coming back from the cornfield next time.

Jeff wrote:.....you won't be coming back from the cornfield next time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C34g5mz1ZQ

I thought that it was found that trending towards progressive ideals or trending towards regressive "ideals" is genetic - at least on a straight 50/50 spectrum. I'm not advocating that liberalism and conservatism are the end-all / be-all political philosophies of humanity, but that we're going to be naturally predisposed to value one method of making the world a better place over another.

I've come to believe that it's a combination of nature/nurture, Luther. Anyone who's been around a lot of infants soon realizes that they're born with different basic hardwiring--the whole "blank slate" theory is hogwash (sometimes mixed with wishful thinking or a desire to flog an agenda). Some babies are extremely irritable and others calm, some exhibit a strong startle response and others are more stoic, to mention just a couple of basic, apparently genetic or gestation-linked differences. And then comes the "nurture" (and I use that term loosely) part that can make any child fearful and wary of authority. In some, the response will be to conform and placate authority figures and in others, to rebel.

This board is really interesting reading for someone like me who was born into a Conservative family, had family and non-family childhood trauma and then, in my teens, began to reject my tormentors and stand up to authority. People can change their programming, at least to an extent. In my case it wasn't a clean or neat transition and I still have to self-monitor for impulses to placate bullies. But my sister bought the package and is a Conservative to this day. Even though we've agreed not to talk politics, over the years that I've been reading here, I've begun to notice all the ways in which her reactions are fear-driven. To me, that's the most basic difference between the Liberals and the Conservatives that I know--the reaction to fear-mongering by authority figures.

And that difference is profound. When I hear people insist that there's no real difference, they come across to me as being out-of-touch with reality in a significant way. The ability to question Authority--whether in-born or learned--is either present or not. It forms the cognitive framework that underlies our daily interactions with each other and the world. Coming from a Conservative family and painfully learning how to question Authority has made that clear to me in a visceral way. This board has helped a lot, since the Conservatives here tend to be smart people who seem to me, from my point-of-view, to marshall interesting arguments to justify what is essentially, IMHO, justification for their fear-driven stance. It's not necessarily divisive to differentiate between Conservatives and Liberals--it's a realistic way to describe very different ways of relating to the world.

LilyPat

The Democrats and the Republicans are quite different — in how they go about manipulating the American public on behalf of the oligarchs.

The Democrats and the Republicans are quite similar — in that they go about manipulating the American public on behalf of the oligarchs.

Simulist wrote:The Democrats and the Republicans are quite different — in how the go about manipulating the American public on behalf of the oligarchs.

The Democrats and the Republicans are quite similar — in that they go about manipulating the American public on behalf of the oligarchs.

The current word for what they do now is called "branding".

It's done throughout our universe, whether it be for products of politicians or radio shows (NPR is just the same old same old right-wing corporate news "branded" for the liberal mindset for instance).

The latest thing in the PR/advertising universe is "branded entertainment". A lot of it is now aimed at children. Go to Millsbury.com. It's a virtual world for kids created by General Miills. (strangely the site rhymes with "Pillsbury" which I'm sure was deliberate and was arrived at after much psychological study). BMW started a big part of this craze with those short action films they did about 10 years ago and released to the internet. In a sense, everything is "branded entertainment" these days, but they're now giving awards just for this.

Nordic wrote:

Simulist wrote:The Democrats and the Republicans are quite different — in how they go about manipulating the American public on behalf of the oligarchs.

The Democrats and the Republicans are quite similar — in that they go about manipulating the American public on behalf of the oligarchs.

The current word for what they do now is called "branding".

It's done throughout our universe, whether it be for products of politicians or radio shows (NPR is just the same old same old right-wing corporate news "branded" for the liberal mindset for instance).

The latest thing in the PR/advertising universe is "branded entertainment"...

When applied to the two major political parties (the Republican Party™ and the Democratic Party™), this "branded entertainment" is known as an "election."

Nordic wrote:In a sense, everything is "branded entertainment" these days, but they're now giving awards just for this.

And for the Best Dramatic Presentation in a pre-election category, Barack Obama should win "The Dickie."

Simulist wrote: When applied to the two major political parties (the Republican Party™ and the Democratic Party™), this "branded entertainment" is known as an "election."

Looks like you're joking, but I think you're absolutely accurate about this. The whole partisan/election nonsense is really just a PR stunt (a stunt that goes on 24/7) to keep people from blowing a gasket. Everybody thinks "well we can change things in the next election". HA.

It's also a big industry. A lot of money changes hands. I see it in the media, where just the campaign commercials generate a lot of dough for various folks (not the least of which are the media outlets themselves which sell the time).

Nordic wrote:

Simulist wrote: When applied to the two major political parties (the Republican Party™ and the Democratic Party™), this "branded entertainment" is known as an "election."

Looks like you're joking, but I think you're absolutely accurate about this. The whole partisan/election nonsense is really just a PR stunt (a stunt that goes on 24/7) to keep people from blowing a gasket. Everybody thinks "well we can change things in the next election". HA.

It's also a big industry. A lot of money changes hands. I see it in the media, where just the campaign commercials generate a lot of dough for various folks (not the least of which are the media outlets themselves which sell the time).

I tend to joke most when I'm really serious about something — it keeps me from screaming.

The whining partisan nonsense in the media annoys me, fiercely.

(A whine is just a scream, coming through a very small hole.)

Simulist said:

I tend to joke most when I'm really serious about something — it keeps me from screaming.

The whining partisan nonsense in the media annoys me, fiercely.

(A whine is just a scream, coming through a very small hole.)

Love that

LilyPat

Yes, this board is for the "left-wing" only.

It has been declared to be an anti-fascist board.
The "right-wing" is fascism, anti-socialist when humans are social animals.
Thus "right-wingers" are anti-human.