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On Paul Sanford
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:00 pm
by Seventhsonjr
theeKultleeder wrote:Seventhsonjr wrote:
and my friend Atty Paul Sanford, murdered just a year ago (christmas eve 2006) after asserting at a white house press conference that Karl Rove's outing of Valerie Plame was treason.
That's fucked. Someone should write a story about it. You should submit info (with family's permission) to a journalist we trust around here.
Reminds me of I worked with a lady who says her friend in college was a major Gulf "War" One protester who was harassed and went crazy - like hospitalized crazy - who remains disturbed and medicated to this day. But she refused to give me any more info or go on the record. She was scared.
If you google Attorney Paul Sanford you will get the story.
I have posted about him before when a mutual friend told me about the suspicious circumstances of his death and the months leading up to it. He also represented the man in the case objecting to "under God" in the pledge of allegiance.
He was a very good man and in no way do I believe his death was a suicide. No one close to him believes that it was.
heroes
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:19 pm
by sw
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:38 pm
by Joe Hillshoist
Cos they haven't been posted (in no particular order, there's probably more and I dunno if heroes is the right word for all them):
Ned Kelly
Joe Hill
Randolph Bourne
Glen Archer (tho I think hes actually younger than me.)
Datu Efren Mandipensa (who else could give a John Denver song meaning and call him a prophet and get away with it.)
Pemulwuy
Archie Roach
Edwin Moses
The magic pudding
Terrence McKenna
RAW
And of course
My parents and grandparents
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:37 pm
by theeKultleeder
Also this one (for real!):

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:00 pm
by compared2what?
Amen to Joe Hill.
I'd also like to add:
Leonard Peltier
Vivienne Westwood
Jeff Wells
The hero's narrative makes strange bedfellows.
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:48 am
by 8bitagent
theeKultleeder wrote:Also this one (for real!):

Oh hellll yeah!
Bill Hicks for the win. Some of Patton Oswalt's stuff comes close to being pretty edgy, but Bill Hicks...man. I could JUST imagine what he'd have to say in a post 9/11 world if he was still alive. (Alex Jones was spose to play him in a film incidentally...and now Jack Black is spose to play Alex Jones in "Them")
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:01 am
by judasdisney
So many great examples here that had escaped my own list. Time to make a real "masterlist" and keep it handy to remind me why I should keep going.
Thanks for all the great reminders.
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:53 am
by §ê¢rꆧ
Terrence Mckenna
Phoolan Devi
Sibel Edmonds
William Rodriguez
Robert Anton Wilson
Stephen Hawking
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz
Alan Turing
Srinivasa Ramanujan
Lots of 'outgrown' heroes, like Hakim Bey, Aleister Crowley, Tim Leary, Nivek Ogre, Pancho Villa. The list changes constantly, but the ones at top are the most recent. An interesting exercise.
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:56 am
by Jeff
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:05 pm
by thurnundtaxis
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:55 pm
by King_Mob
Robert Anton Wilson
Grant Morrison
Cynthia Mckinney
Neil Young
Gottfried Leibniz

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:24 pm
by jingofever
Elvis
Jim Morrison
Moses
Doc Holliday
Lieutenant Iceman Kazanksy

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:57 pm
by Seamus OBlimey
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:17 pm
by bringcosby
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:31 pm
by chlamor
Eugene Debs
Lou Brock
Sojourner Truth
Mr. Norskog
Vandana Shiva
Wendell Berry
Michael Parenti
Cesar Chavez
Steve Prefontaine
Muhammad Ali
Malcolm X
Martin Luther King Jr.
Peter Norman