Inception

[norton ash]

The pleasures of the text.

[brekin]

Simulist wrote:

Thank you for explaining that, Brekin. I appreciate it because I misunderstood your original point, and now I understand your meaning better.

My pleasure, it helped flesh out my thought.

While I was buying my ticket for Inception an older man asked what is was about. I told him from what I knew it was similar to the movie Dreamscape. He hadn't heard of it. I loved that film and recently watched it and was pleased to see it has stood up really well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamscape_(film)

I think because the film poster is so Indiana Jones like it turns people off. The trailer is also by the numbers but the film itself is really watchable. One of the few dream movies where the dream sequence feels like an actual dream. Inception's "dreams" didn't have that dreamlike feeling for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCrtOAC-wsE

[barracuda]

I haven't seen Inception yet, but it has some stiff competition for best dream sequences in film. Here's a few favorites:

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Implanting memories? duh. Propaganda.
Stealing them? Counterpropaganda.
The all-important spinning top prop? SPIN. P.R. Strategic communication, etc..
How damn obvious is that? C'mon!

'Inception' is a decoy of psyops culture, allegedly about to be renamed "M.I.S.O." culture but I doubt it. More likely just viral marketed as a semantic priming bridge to this film's Japan setting.

The current cover of the CIA's New Yorker Magazine also primes the decoy subliminal theme by using art hoaxes as an excuse for the headline, "Is That Leonardo Real?"

Get it? Leonardo DiCaprio and the dream theme? Art as reality? Psyops?
The spooks made the use of decoy mirrors and conditioning into another 'Mission Impossible' flik. Examine the character names and their roles to find the subliminal theme. s.o.p.

The 1993 version of Army Field Manual FM33-1 Psychological Operations even uses
the words "making memories" on page 7-3:

Elements of Effective Psyop Products
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Getting Attention
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Building Credibility
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Making Memories
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Displacing Aggression
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Arousing Emotion
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Repeating the Message
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This board should take special note of the name of the dream-surfing protaganist, "Dom Cobb," because it is a reference to one of our own, DreamsEnd.
Otherwise known as Ty Brown.

get it? Famous ballplayer named Cobb? Ty Cobb?
Why? Because Ty Brown/DreamsEnd got lots of internet exposure regarding Alternate Reality Games over the deaths of Theresa Duncan and Jeremy Blake.
So did this board along with all the exposure of psyops that's here.

How does the movie end? By having us not know whether that is a...Dream's End.
A classic example of creating a counter-association in entertainment psyops.

Think I'm kidding?
By no coincidence, the spook media carefully marketed a very different Ty Brown in Nashville in July on television just before this movie opened July 13 in order to steer any stray memories away from the blogger known as Dreams End.
They even threw in some discrediting-
http://www.bachelorettefans.com/article ... n-his-wife

Did Ty Brown Cheat on His Wife?

http://blog.cmt.com/2010-07-07/the-bach ... r-singles/

The Bachelorette's Ty Brown Looking for Singles
Posted: July 7th, 2010 at 3:08 pm | By: Alison Bonaguro


Ty Brown

The Bachelorette contestant Ty Brown was given the boot by Ali Fedotowsky this week, but he's now back home in Nashville, hard at work crafting country songs. So he may not have found true love on the reality show, but he found opportunity.
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His real name is Mathew Tyler Brown and I think we can be sure he ain't the same "Ty Brown" as Dreams End.


So now that kidz online are discussing this movie and the "dream's end," they are less likely to think of Ty Brown's blog with this-
http://dreamsend333.wordpress.com/2010/ ... ed-by-cia/

Atlanta Child Murderer Trained by CIA?

Some at this board get the game theory of counterpropaganda efforts by CIA-media but too many still don't. Meanwhile, this board is being countered because there's too much info here.

[brekin]

Hugh, I'm just curious. I have two questions if you don't mind.

1. Do you have a favorite movie? If so what is it?

2. Do you know of any films that are free of psyops/keyword hijacking?

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Hugh, I'm just curious. I have two questions if you don't mind.

1. Do you have a favorite movie? If so what is it?

'Metropolis.' The original, of course.

2. Do you know of any films that are free of psyops/keyword hijacking?

Sure, they exist. But not showing at your local psynaplex and very few are even at your local video rental store.

The USG made propaganda movies for World War One.
Psyops has dominated production since the early thirties back when J. Edgar Hoover's FBI had a heavy hand in image-mongering and so did the Catholic church.

That covers most of film history.
And ALL films express values, beliefs, and attitudes.
The question is whose?

[Simulist]

Nope. That's definitely not the Twit of the Staircase.

[barracuda]

Think I'm kidding?

No, but I'm holding out hope. Now you actually think Ty Brown is important enough for a psyop campaign costing over two hundred million dollars. Serious narssicism. But thanks for the tell. Interesting.

[slomo]

Hugh, as I've said before, I don't doubt that the CIA/NSA/other alphabet agencies have an interest in counter-propaganda. My objection to your theories is that I still don't see how many of your proposed examples of KWH would accomplish anything demonstrably effective. In other words, I agree with your presumptions of motive, but not with your hypotheses of method. What is the psychological mechanism of action?

Please answer this question: in your most immediate example of KWH, which seems to apply specifically to this very board and its closely associated boards, how would seeding the collective mindscape of American culture with alternative references to Ty Brown and DreamsEnd countervail any RI influences on the general public, if indeed there are any? Please be as specific as you can about actual psychological mechanisms, because the extent to which you can describe a plausible mechanism is the extent to which you will convince people that your hypotheses are in fact correct.

[barracuda]

Please answer this question:

And please consider giving your answer on a new thread.

[Fresno_Layshaft]

Almost all effects were done in-camera, very little CGI. As for your other points, I have to wonder if we were watching the same film.

Not true.

“...the more spectacular imagery of the film — the street folding over in Paris, characters creating architecture out of thin air — are VFX shots that we created from a combination of live action and copious amounts of digital animation,” Franklin told Wired.com in a phone interview.
Read More http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/07/ ... z0uGNWkZ6f

Nolan does use miniatures more than most directors and I applaud him for that. But to suggest that "almost all the effects" were done in-camera is totally ridiculous. All of the imagery in that film (and almost every film) is digitally manipulated.

Some people seem to have a fanatical attachment to this film that borders on the religious (not saying you do, 8bit). Has anyone else noticed that? Look at Rotten Tomatoes and look through the comments on the negative reviews. Its really strange.

[vince]

I give it a 'meh'. Like "The Dark Knight", it gets a little 'long-in-the-tooth' in the third act. That snow fight just goes on WAY too long......
Maybe I found it mediocre 'coz of the fact that I went to see a really GOOD movie just before it: "Toy Story 3"!

[RocketMan]

I was/am really surprised how I really didn't have that much affection for The Dark Knight at all. Heath Ledger was, in the end, deserving of most of the praise he got, but the entire exercise felt somehow oppressive, clinical, detached, stuffy... Like all the elements in the film existed solely for the purposes of the film's script and dramatic structure.

I actually liked Batman Begins more, despite the rather clunky plot mechanics. My favourite film of Nolan's is probably Insomnia, followed close behind by The Prestige. Now THAT film melded beautifully an emotional depth with seriously dense plot mechanics.

Probably going to see Inception in the cinema come what may, it's such a dull movie summer otherwise.

[operator kos]

Saw Inception when it first came out, wasn't that impressed. The floating hotel sequences were sort of interesting, although a fairly tame Matrix +1. The other two dream world were utterly boring Hollywood gun battles-- considering the possibilities, what a let down!!

[norton ash]

Oy, the gun battles/car chases. At least they're an opportunity to hit the washroom.