Odd UFO photographed over Poland

orz · Post by **orz** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:52 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>But I don't know much about double exposures or whether or not clotheslines would appear to be behind the object.<hr></blockquote> Yes, they would. Double exposure can only add light... any black/totally dark areas will be fully transparent, light areas will be visible over darker areas. Or yeah, a reflection would be even more simple an explanation. Few film cameras, unless jammed or broken, can easily accidentally double-expose.

4911 · Post by **4911** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:56 pm

look at the picture? Since when do they mount clotheslines on electrical posts supporting electrical wires?

anotherdrew · Post by **anotherdrew** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:05 pm

what's up with this acorn picture? where's the ufo? I don't see one at all.

Dreams End · Post by **Dreams End** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:10 am

Thanks for the spaceman pic,Pan. never solved, that one...complete with men in black. I recommend a read of the link pan provided.

Rigorous Intuition · Post by **Rigorous Intuition** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:59 am

I think this is fascinating: Not long afterwards the editor of the Cumberland News newspaper contacted Jim and asked if he could borrow the negative to send a copy out to Australia. Apparently the photograph had appeared in the press there and staff working at the Woomera test range area in Southern Australia had seen it. Jim was told that the day after he took his photograph, a Blue Streak space rocket was due to be launched from Woomera in Australia. The countdown was postponed when two automatic survey camera had independently spotted two large figures in the firing area during the countdown phase. They were very similar in appearance to Jim's mysterious visitor. At the time of the launch, the photograph had not reached Australia and the staff had no knowledge of the bizarre image. The Woomera missile test range was run by Group Captain Tom Dalton-Morgan from 1959-1963 and he came forward with his own story. Prior to the test firing of an earlier "Blue Streak" rocket, observers stationed 100 miles down range called to tell Tom that there was a "light" heading his way at incredible speed, towards restricted air space. Tom and several scientists watched as the light circled the facility, then shot away and vanished. He remarked that he "could not conceive of any plane or missile that was able to perform the maneuvers seen by my team". He said UFOs were frequently seen in the area and that in 1964 they had aborted the launch of another test when a "white being" was seen on the automatic security cameras. The incident seems to be vaguely mentioned in the "Flight trial of F1 - 5th June, 1961," report by Officer in Scientific Charge H.G.R. Robinson: "During the period immediately prior to 25th May outstanding problems concerning range safety and instrumental coverage were resolved with the Range Authorities." The report also lists a long series of various technical incidents with the several subsequent Blue Streak missiles test launches. Obviously no Blue Streak was launched on May 23, 1964 or before the first launch on June 5, 1964. Jim Templeton then also discovered that Blue Streak rockets were being manufactured in the UK at Spadeadam, a location several miles away from Burgh Marsh on the Carlisle to Newcastle road.  There is a letter in the Public Records Office in Kew, London uncovered by ufologist Jenny Randles which is dated 1964 December 29th referring to the Cumberland Spaceman by the Ministry of Defence (MOD). In it are references by the Department of Scientific and Technical Intelligence (DSTI) of an investigation into the matter. Another letter there dated 1964 June 15th is from a reporter enquiring about the aborted launch and the film in question which shows an extraordinary object hovering nearby that is 'impossible to miss'. A response to this letter from the MOD informs the reporter that he should contact them if he wishes to view the film. Mysteriously, in the series of film canisters holding the Blue Streak missile launches, one is missing. The missing canister is the film of the launches for the week beginning Sunday, May 23, 1964. [The "spaceman" photograph was taken on May 23, 1964.] <a href="http://www.ufologie.net/htm/solwayfirth64.htm">link</a> <a href="http://www.ufologie.net/press/dailymail13dec2002.htm">A letter </a> from photographer Jim Templeton, published in The Daily Mail Dec 13, 2002: As an amateur photographer on a day-trip with my family, I took the photograph on Burgh Marsh on May 23, 1964, using an SLR camera loaded with the new Kodacolor film which was processed by Kodak. I took three pictures of my daughter Elizabeth in a similar pose - and was shocked when the middle picture came back from Kodak displaying what looks like a spaceman in the background. I took the picture to the police in Carlisle who, after many doubts, examined it and stated there was nothing suspicious about it. The local newspaper, the Cumberland News, picked up the story and within hours it was all over the world. The picture is certainly not a fake, and I am as bemused as anyone else as to how this image appeared in the background. Over the four decades the photo has been in the public domain, I have had many thousands of letters from all over the world with various ideas or possibilities - most of which make little sense to me. It should also be noted that I have received no payment for taking this picture. The only suggestion that struck a chord with me was a letter from Woomera in Australia which came a month after the picture was shown around the world. The people there were keen to see a good colour copy of the photo, as they had stopped a countdown of the Blue Streak rocket within hours of my photo being taken. Apparently, two similar looking 'spacemen' had been seen close to the rocket. Only later did I find out that part of the Blue Streak rocket was made and tested within sight of Burgh Marsh. James Templeton Carlisle Cumbria England Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 8/18/06 12:00 am

bvonahsen · Post by **bvonahsen** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:02 am

I hate that pitcure ProfPan. It gives me a deep creepy feeling that the UFO pic here doesn't. I'm not sure that I can say why, and I usually can. Same with the other one like that you posted on the pict thread. The one where the woman's deceased husband shows up behind her head. Is there any connection? Like... did the little girl marry an astronaught? (god I need to get my spellcheck reinstalled) Our maybe she became one herself, or works for NASA. Or some connection like that. It would be easy to fake that pict. You sure it wasn't? uhhhhhh.... it's still giving me the creeps here.

Et in Arcadia ego · Post by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:21 am

If you look at the arm that's visible you'll see that we're actually looking at the figure's back due to the way the arm is bent. Looks like a guy wearing a bee suit to me, but the story's pretty interesting. ____________________ Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.

Dreams End · Post by **Dreams End** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:34 am

As for our spaceman, take a straightedge and bisect his body from his head down to where the ground would be seen if the child's head were not in the way. Note the angle that it makes with the very flat ground. This bee keeper is a bit tilted to the right, eh?

Gouda · Post by **Gouda** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:48 am

<img src="http://www.ufodigest.com/images/acorn-wide.jpg" style="border:0;"/> Unfortunately the photographer did not capture the giant squirrel in flight above the frame.

snowlion2 · Post by **snowlion2** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:03 am

Probably nuthin', but my antenna start twitchin' when previously obscure geographic references seem to link up...So the timeline is...spot the spaceman...send in the MIB....fill the place up with depleted uranium for a few decades, then build a multi-million dollar wind farm to blow it all around a little. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Tuesday, 3 July, 2001 Testing of depleted uranium shells has been halted at the Dundrennan firing range in Kirkcudbright. Defence Minister Lewis Moonie revealed in a House of Commons written answer that the Ministry of Defence has put its firing programme on hold. The tests caused a storm of controversy after allegations of a possible link between depleted uranium and cancer. Mr Moonie said the firing programme - which is only half way through - could be resumed. The suspension of firing will be welcomed by some residents living near the Dundrennan facility who called for the shell tests to be stopped amid growing fears about the health risks posed by depleted uranium. The MoD insisted that the environmental contamination caused by the shells was negligible as they were fired into a cloth target and there was no known risk to public health. There has been no firing at the range recently because of the foot-and-mouth restrictions over access to land. On Tuesday afternoon, in a written Commons answer, Mr Moonie revealed testing had come to an end. He said the MoD was satisfied by the quality of the tests on the uranium penetrators - which are used in shells fired by Challenger tanks - and no more are needed. However, he did not rule out further firings in the future. Thousands of depleted uranium tipped shells have been test fired from the range into the Solway Firth in the past 20 years. 'Balkan syndrome' Public concern at the testing has grown following allegations about a possible link between exposure to depleted uranium and cases of cancer among British troops who served in the peacekeeping force in the Balkans. Nato warplanes dropped 10,000 rounds of depleted uranium ammunition in Bosnia in 1994 and 1995. Soldiers from several countries, including Britain, Italy, Portugal and France, have fallen ill with what has been dubbed Balkan Syndrome.<hr></blockquote> <a href="http://nucnews.net/nucnews/2001nn/0107nn/010703nn.htm">Link here</a> Or this: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>While most of the UK’s proposed offshore wind farms are south of the border, there is one proposed in Scottish waters- on Solway Firth. The Public consultation process began on that recently - on both shores of the Firth. TXU, which owns English electricity suppliers Eastern and Norweb, and Offshore Energy Resources Ltd, released photo montages showing 60 130m-tall wind turbines in the Firth, clearly visible from both shores. Capable of generating 180 MW - about 25% of Scotland’s 2010 Kyoto target - they would be in Scottish waters, meaning the Scottish Executive will be the planning authority, although the electricity would flow south. The £200m wind farm would interconnect with the United Utilities distribution network in Cumbria, via a sub-sea cable. The turbines would be built on Robin Rigg, a shallow sandbank approximately 6.4 miles from the Scottish coast and 7.1 miles from the English coast. They would supply about 160,000 homes, equating to 75% of Cumbrian households or more than one and half times the domestic energy requirement for Dumfries and Galloway. Construction would last around 18 months and bring more than 100 contracting jobs to the area. Several leading turbine and tower manufacturers, including Vestas at Campbeltown, are thought to be in the running for the construction work. Welcoming the plan, Richard Dixon, of Friends of the Earth Scotland, said: "Offshore wind turbines are going to be extremely important to the UK. It is a shame only one seabed license has been granted for Scotland." Based on a Report in the Herald<hr></blockquote> <a href="http://eeru.open.ac.uk/natta/rol38.html">Link here</a>

Et in Arcadia ego · Post by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:50 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>As for our spaceman, take a straightedge and bisect his body from his head down to where the ground would be seen if the child's head were not in the way. Note the angle that it makes with the very flat ground. This bee keeper is a bit tilted to the right, eh?<hr></blockquote> Heh..He's kinda standing in the same position as the nekid Camel Man: <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/Camel_cigarettes.jpg" style="border:0;"/> Good thing the kid's blocking the view of his otherwordly whatsit..That tilted angle could be a case of manly pride, lol.. <img src="http://www.sickle666.com/images/camelnaught.jpg" style="border:0;"/> ____________________ Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sickle666.com/images/Arcadia.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 8/18/06 10:59 am

bvonahsen · Post by **bvonahsen** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:17 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Looks like a guy wearing a bee suit to me,<hr></blockquote> I saw that he wasn't facing us, but I couldn't figure out what he was wearing. A bee suit really seems to fit what we can see. Great suggestion. The image still disturbs me. UFOs I could understand, even giant acorn or cocktail olive looking ones, and fit into my model of the world. But this... uhhh.... I hate looking at it.

bvonahsen · Post by **bvonahsen** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:56 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Jim Templeton, a fireman from Carlisle in the North of England, took his young daughter out to the marches<hr></blockquote> Don't they sometimes call beekeepers "marchers" in the UK? I did a little photoshoping (then reinstalled WordWeb, great spell checker btw) and while there isn't much that one can do with web sized picts, I could straighten it out and sharpen it up a bit. BTW -- To easily straighten an image in PS use the measure tool to draw out a line, then go to image/rotate canvas/arbitrary and PS will have the correct value alread inserted for you. Straightened <img src="http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3106/solwayfirthcropdf3.jpg" style="border:0;"/> Enlarged <img src="http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2056/solwayfirthcrop2ki6.jpg" style="border:0;"/> Now what does a beekeepers suit look like? Google is my friend. <img src="http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5152/suitmd4.gif" style="border:0;"/> The Helmut <img src="http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8476/hatveilgi4.jpg" style="border:0;"/> sure looks like one to me. Down to the three ridges on the top of the helmut. And if I look hard enough, I think I can see where the veil is falling accross his shoulders. Sure would be nice to have a good scan of the oirginal though. I think I even have an answer for the creepy feeling I get looking at it. The shadow on the right hand side of the figures head forms "face" that is looking to the right. It's just an accident but it gives a subliminal creepyness to it. That's my theory for the time being.

Et in Arcadia ego · Post by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:03 pm

I'm convinced it's the Camel Man. ____________________ Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.

bvonahsen · Post by **bvonahsen** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:05 pm

BTW, could that little cloud on the right, just below his arm, really be a puff from his smoker? coooouuuuld beeee..... hmmmmmm.....

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