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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:35 am
by Luther Blissett
8bitagent » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:36 am wrote:…
One thing I really don't like is the reports of nazis planning to suppress votes. As much as I have fun digging on Clinton, Im horrified at the very notion
of voter suppression aimed at minorities. The African American support for Clinton seems to be way down, which is odd to me. Even in the wake of Bill Clinton apologizing for the 90s crime laws.
Yeah. I have off on election day and will be wearing my antifascist hat that day. I live in one of those heavily African American districts that went 0% for Romney in 2012 that they're so sad about so I'm concerned about violence and intimidation in my neighborhood. Really hard to imagine some out-of-town Klan off-duty Kops rolling around my hood.
The African American vote is divided pretty sharply along age lines and a left-center configuration. The younger and/or more radical my black friends are, the more likely they are to vote for Stein or say they're sitting out. Old folks are without a doubt voting Clinton in droves in my city.
Whatever happened to that video of her belittling a black lives matter protestor and ending the argument by saying, "then I'll only talk to white people"?
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:41 am
by Luther Blissett
I still think this essay has shaped my thinking on this election more than any other. Michelle Alexander is a titan in my mind. 8bit's comment about "Selma" got me thinking about Ava DuVernay's other film, "The 13th" and how that's also required viewing; Alexander features heavily in it. I think she's one of the most important public intellectuals today. Top 20 at least.
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... 83#p612583
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:54 am
by Harvey
Some automated server just blurted out the results of the election (
apparently this is a grab of the page) according to Jim Stone:
http://82.221.129.208/basepaget1.html
Anything leap out? BS?
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:01 am
by JackRiddler
"Soros and his minions will steal the election and make it illegal to stop them" sort of leaps out, yes.
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:02 am
by Harvey
Anything beside the obvious..? I read that he's 'controversial' figure, okay. Is there anything to the story? I don't have relevant knowledge in order to judge.
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:05 am
by 82_28
Yeah. All the easy ones (small districts) they have left alone with 0% so they will let those shake out. Hmm. Good find.
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:17 am
by Novem5er
Trump undoubtedly used race-baiting to propel himself into popular support during the primaries. Many Trump supporters are undoubtedly racist. I disagree, however, that anyone supporting Trump is ipso facto supporting racism. His campaign, correctly or incorrectly, has tapped into the heart of rural America, but it's not the first time. Have we all forgotten Sarah Palin? The rural Tea Party base of the GOP was riled up pretty good back in 2008.
I live in rural America. I live in Trump Country, which used to be Palin Country. There IS racism here, but it's not everybody. It's not even most people anymore. When the country folk I know are "racist", really they are expressing dislike of Urban culture, which goes for rap music as well as rich bankers and D.C. politicians. There are some hateful sons of bitches here, don't get me wrong, but it's not even most people.
So, no, a vote for Trump does not equate with support for racism, no more than a vote for Hillary is voicing support for bombing middle eastern children.
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:25 am
by seemslikeadream
Here’s how you destroy a democratic republic
Among the many manifestations of out-of-control factious spirit, none is more dismaying than the obeisance Republicans have paid their party’s patently unfit presidential candidate, Donald Trump, out of a combination of opportunism, blind factional loyalty and hatred of his opponent, Democrat Hillary Clinton.
None is more dangerous, though, than the potential partisan politicization of federal law enforcement, especially its investigative arm, the FBI.
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If you really wanted to destroy a democratic republic, the surest way would be to turn its prosecutors, investigators and intelligence-gatherers into the instruments — actual or perceived — of a political party.
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If Trump wins, Democrats would consider it an FBI-engineered victory. If Clinton wins, she would face the awkward predicament of working on anti-terrorism and other vital efforts with an FBI director still pursuing a Republican-encouraged investigation of her emails. Comey’s term expires in 2023.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... d9b0438904
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:26 am
by seemslikeadream
if you vote for a racist you are a racist ......you are voting for a racist policies ...you are saying a racist policies is what you want ...therefore you are a racist
vote for Trump does not equate with support for racism
of course it does
Novem5er » Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:17 am wrote:Trump undoubtedly used race-baiting to propel himself into popular support during the primaries. Many Trump supporters are undoubtedly racist. I disagree, however, that anyone supporting Trump is ipso facto supporting racism. His campaign, correctly or incorrectly, has tapped into the heart of rural America, but it's not the first time. Have we all forgotten Sarah Palin? The rural Tea Party base of the GOP was riled up pretty good back in 2008.
I live in rural America. I live in Trump Country, which used to be Palin Country. There IS racism here, but it's not everybody. It's not even most people anymore. When the country folk I know are "racist", really they are expressing dislike of Urban culture, which goes for rap music as well as rich bankers and D.C. politicians. There are some hateful sons of bitches here, don't get me wrong, but it's not even most people.
So, no, a vote for Trump does not equate with support for racism, no more than a vote for Hillary is voicing support for bombing middle eastern children.
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:29 am
by Novem5er
SLAD, then I'll counter that if you vote for a child-bombing war hawk, then you are a child-bombing war hawk yourself. You are voting for international policies that will bomb children. You are saying that bombing children is what you want.
It goes both ways or it doesn't go at all.
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:31 am
by seemslikeadream
please link to where Hillary Clinton has personally killed or raped anyone
and when her trial starts
Trump has been indicted and will go to trial on fraud charges Nov. 28 on rape charges Dec.13
and has already been convicted of discrimination
Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar,
rampant xenophobe,
racist,
misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.
I'm not voting for this guy
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:42 am
by Novem5er
Don't be ridiculous. You're implying that politicians bear no responsibility nor guilt for the consequences of their policies. In that vein, G.W. Bush is an innocent man who has no guilt for the atrocities in Iraq. Nixon is innocent to anything that happened in Vietnam and Cambodia.
You've said yourself that Clinton is a bitter pill to swallow, so why is that? You seemed to have justified your vote, which is fine . . . I'm not condemning you; but it's the same with for millions of Trump supporters. You can't have it both ways.
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:45 am
by seemslikeadream
we only have two choices ...that's it...one of them is going to be president...I will not voting for the one that the KKK is voting for or the one that has been indicted
there is a reason they are supporting him.....he is a fucking racist
that's just the way it is
vote for the racist or not
I don't hang around with racists
I have no time or energy or intention of spending any time with racists or why they are racists or why they are too stupid to realize they are racists or why they would love a pimped out scumbag racist
Did I mention he is a child rapist? Trump is a child rapist ...then there's that
Why would you think I need to spend my time trying to "understand" racists.....I already understand racism...I ain't gonna change a racist point of view
I'm not trying to have it both ways.....I'm just not voting for the racist...period
do you not see this?
this is TRUMP
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:04 am
by divideandconquer
Novem5er » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:17 am wrote:Trump undoubtedly used race-baiting to propel himself into popular support during the primaries. Many Trump supporters are undoubtedly racist. I disagree, however, that anyone supporting Trump is ipso facto supporting racism. His campaign, correctly or incorrectly, has tapped into the heart of rural America, but it's not the first time. Have we all forgotten Sarah Palin? The rural Tea Party base of the GOP was riled up pretty good back in 2008.
I live in rural America. I live in Trump Country, which used to be Palin Country. There IS racism here, but it's not everybody. It's not even most people anymore. When the country folk I know are "racist", really they are expressing dislike of Urban culture, which goes for rap music as well as rich bankers and D.C. politicians. There are some hateful sons of bitches here, don't get me wrong, but it's not even most people.
So, no, a vote for Trump does not equate with support for racism, no more than a vote for Hillary is voicing support for bombing middle eastern children.
I totally agree!
This election is a huge psyop! An indoctrinated public is being
forced to choose between two blatantly wicked candidates. Well, the only way to overcome cognitive dissonance that this choice creates is to make their chosen candidate sprout wings. The indoctrinated do not realize that their choice doesn't matter....that these candidates are merely puppets. They don't realize they don't have to make a choice...the don't realize that whoever "wins" will continue to carry forth the global elite's dehumanizing, depopulating agenda that will continue to strip away their rights and carry on the immense transfer of wealth. In other words, they foolishly think their choice matters.
Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:08 am
by seemslikeadream
This election is a huge psyop!
what a lovely cop out
Yea there is no racism in America.....
ask a black person if their vote matters
ask a woman if her vote matters