Masculinities of the far right

[guruilla]

Sublime on so many levels. Thanks.

[Wombaticus Rex]

"To new victories in labor and sports"

Tongue-in-cheek but this thread could do with a counterexample. Kinda getting worried I should lay off the bicep curls lest they lead to starting an Ayn Rand book club.

Well, the biggest counterexample I can think of offhand is MMA fighter Jeff Monson, who is not only a liberal but an anarchist.

He's had an interesting career, many successes but was never able to break into the majors, ie defeat top talent.

Maybe if he read more Henry Makow...

[backtoiam]

Sublime on so many levels. Thanks.

Every now and then I need something to totally wreck my mind and make me smile. That did it for me today. Thanx for that....

[Joao]

Well, the biggest counterexample I can think of offhand is MMA fighter Jeff Monson, who is not only a liberal but an anarchist.

He's had an interesting career, many successes but was never able to break into the majors, ie defeat top talent.

Perhaps his precious bodily fluids were sapped by drinking something other than distilled water, rainwater, or pure grain alcohol. And anarchist has many meanings to many people, of course, but he sounds like an OK guy: "I am an anarchist, someone who would like to do away with all class hierarchy in society and the institutions that promote this inequality."

Regarding the video of OG Russians: I could swear I've seen footage of Czarist soldiers getting kissed on the lips by their commanding officer as part of a medal ceremony, but I can't seem to find it online.

[General Patton]

I can't keep track of what is or isn't gay anymore. I got into a weird debate a week ago about the relative gayness of having sex with a gender fluid person based off of how feminine their penis is.

[Belligerent Savant]

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A feminine penis?

A mind can explode with visuals...

Can a penis be feminine?

Is this based on physical attributes alone (for example: does it resemble a clitoris -- in which case, my condolences to this person if such resemblance is based on the length and girth of the average clitoris; can it have multiple orgasms in rapid succession -- in which case, I and surely many other men would be quite envious)?

Or is this more of a 'mental' thing? Or both?
(neither?)

[General Patton]

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A feminine penis?

A mind can explode with visuals...

Can a penis be feminine?

Is this based on physical attributes alone (for example: does it resemble a clitoris -- in which case, my condolences to this person if such resemblance is based on the length and girth of the average clitoris; can it have multiple orgasms in rapid succession -- in which case, I and surely many other men would be quite envious)?

Or is this more of a 'mental' thing? Or both?
(neither?)

Well, according to said friend, when you get on hormone therapy the penis is still very sensitive and can orgasm but doesn't get as erect. But this doesn't include the larger section of people who are not taking hormones and nevertheless have a feminine penis that is more like a clitoris. Not used for penetration but still an erogenous zone. I'm in the same boat as you, I'm still learning about all of this.

I'm not sure about the multiple orgasms thing, I may inquire about that. I do know that taoists have a sort of full-body orgasm without ejaculation that men can try and achieve.

[Belligerent Savant]

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Admittedly a portion of my prior comments were semi tongue-in-cheek, though I recall attempting various forms of the kama sutra in my earlier more flexible days in an effort to mimic the 'multiple orgasms within a short timeframe' action... not sure I was 'evolved' enough to succeed.

In my late teens/early 20s, prior to becoming an established cog in white-collar corporate America, I tended bar in various spots across NYC (restaurants, dance clubs, etc.) around the mid/late 90s. One of those venues was a latin gay club featuring cross-dressers and/or persons in various stages of gender transformation performing live shows each night (I didn't realize it was such a venue until my first night on the job; the job application -- listed in the Village Voice -- merely indicated, "Soon-to-open latin club looking for spanish-speaking bartenders". Spanish happens to be one of the languages I attempt in communications with fellow humans).

Quite a valuable/educational experience for a young straight lad from Queens. An ideal setting for an aspiring socio-cultural anthropologist, without a doubt.

Perhaps I'll write a book about it one day... or have one ghost-written for me.

[Perelandra]

Seems like a good place for this reminder. See the older productive conversation on relative anatomies here:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=33901&p=443623&hilit=Clitoris#p443623

[American Dream]

US ‘make rape legal’ group plans worldwide anti-woman event in 43 countries

“By attempting to teach men not to rape, what we have actually done is teach women not to care about being raped, not to protect themselves from easily preventable acts, and not to take responsibility for their actions,” he wrote at the time. “I thought about this problem and am sure I have the solution: make rape legal if done on private property.”

“I propose that we make the violent taking of a woman not punishable by law when done off public grounds,” Valizadeh said.

However, the planned meetings are already receiving opposition in some countries.

“Sex without consent is rape. There are no excuses. If someone is drunk or drugged they cannot give consent,” a spokesperson for Police Scotland told The National. “We must do all we can to prevent rape and sexual assaults amongst offering all the necessary support and protection to those who are victims.”




Roosh Vörek

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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/us-make ... countries/

[jakell]

Has this guy got anything to do with the far right? I know a whole bunch of lazy associations could be dragged up to weakly suggest such a thing, and that is probably enough for some folks, but not all.

[General Patton]

Has this guy got anything to do with the far right? I know a whole bunch of lazy associations could be dragged up to weakly suggest such a thing, and that is probably enough for some folks, but not all.

lol, the rape article was satire, and not his first satire article either. My fav was the fat girl jihad, where he channels Islam to wage a war against fat women. He's running the same old shtick of using lefties for free PR and street cred. This isn't the first time people have tried to ban Roosh. It's extremely easy to bait lefties into over-reaction to make fools out of themselves, it's not going to stop working anytime soon. This is the modern equivalent of getting your book banned so it gets more circulation.

He's been involved with Forney and has made appearances at NPI. He's part of the neo-masculinist alt-right, not the ethnonat alt-right.

[American Dream]

Of course most of those friendly towards the far right l say thought-stopping shit to avoid dealing with the ugly realities in which they may be personally entangled. One wonders if and when they would actually repudiate such bozos- mostly they never do...

[kool maudit]

Almost nobody asserts things like "men should rape women" or "more women should be raped". The only group I can think of that publishes stuff like that is ISIS, and they seem like they were created to be exactly the sort of devil that usually lies distinctly in the realm of fantasy.

I had a conversation about this guy (I've looked him up) with a friend in Montreal when he was there, and my friend was very adamant about the this-is-a-campaign-to-legalise-rape line. I told him, look, there's a lot to hate about this guy for you: he's alt-right, he's very into gender roles, essentialism, traditionalism... he's not your kind of guy.

But then I asked: do you believe that is what this is? That this man is going from town to town convincing groups of men to rape women? Like, is that something you think is objectively going to transpire in Montreal tonight?

Because it's a self-help workshop for guys who don't get laid that often, draped in a layer of paranoid, fashionable fash.

But that's to speak about it and not campaign against it. The two things are different and require different sorts of input. The latter one is a bit more touch-and-go, truth-wise, as well.

[General Patton]

Of course most of those friendly towards the far right l say thought-stopping shit to avoid dealing with the ugly realities in which they may be personally entangled. One wonders if and when they would actually repudiate such bozos- mostly they never do...

Yeah, like most highly successful actions there is a strategy behind it.

http://www.dailystormerdotcom/regarding ... azi-video/
Even if we don’t want to be marching through the streets in uniforms waving Nazi flags, trolling people and making them think we want to do that has no negative effects. Obviously if you’re a serious political party you don’t troll people in that manner, but the Daily Stormer and /pol/ are not serious political parties: this is just the internet.

I did not make this method up. This has been used by literally every single leftist revolutionary movement. They always have a group which is pushing the most hardcore positions possible for the purpose of making other less hardcore positions more socially acceptable.

Just an example here: the gay rights movement of the 1990s had NAMBLA, which was openly campaigning for the right to have sex with little boys. That was all in the media. The non-pedo gays never condemned them. They marched beside them. Eventually, the gays got their rights, not despite NAMBLA, but because of them. They had made the positions of the more mainstream activists seem significantly less dangerous and offensive by pushing the most dangerous and offensive positions imaginable.

Just another example here: The Black Panthers marching through the streets with guns chanting that they were going to kill cops made it a whole lot easier for people to accept Martin Luther King’s master plan.

What hardcore extremists are doing is helping to push a social climate wherein people who present themselves as the alt-right presents itself are in a better position to be viewed as reasonable. And yet, these people come out and attack us. It is utterly baffling. I have repeatedly asked these people to take a look at the way the leftist revolutionary groups carried out their agendas, and they are apparently refusing to do so. This is very, very simple stuff, even if it isn’t immediately intuitive.

A strategy much more successful than anything employed by antifa thus far to fight them. Though at least they are honest about the fact that they have no romantic illusions of fighting for free speech for everyone, even their political enemies. The days of the ACLU fighting for neo-nazis right to march are long, long gone.