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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:19 pm
by NeonLX
Drumpf is bad. Very bad. Bad enough to be a caricature of bad.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:22 pm
by Belligerent Savant
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SLAD:
what I can't understand is why it seems to be so verboten here to talk about how bad trump is?

I've never seen this happen with anyone else...I can see the view that he's not that bad....but not that bad so stop talking about him?
You slay me with your humor.

this thread has TRUMP in the subject heading and is now at 112 pages; there are at least several other threads in GD actively discussing TRUMP in all his 'glory'.

Whatever do you mean? What HASN'T been said here about TRUMP?

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:25 pm
by 82_28
I have yet to see any one of our esteemed members defending TRUMP whatsoever. I, like it seems everyone else here are deeply worried about his chances.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:29 pm
by seemslikeadream
ok I am sorry ...carry on ...I'm in pain and I'm taking it out on you all

any thought that it's ok if trump becomes president or that it wouldn't matter ....or that he really is the lesser of two evils ......just really irritates me



and being called a neo con supporter ...really got my Irish up :leprechaun:

I don't think there is enough space on this website to say how much I can not stand that guy.... :)

I do have a problem with the orange ...it's genetic ...can't help it

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:38 pm
by kelley
Trump is so insultingly bad it's nearly beyond belief. Call it denial, but it's difficult to take him seriously. He represents something like the extinction of the species as we've known it, and all that encompasses. That, of course, is serious. Even so, he's playing a role, and that's what makes this difficult.

This isn't an election. The cognitive dissonance created by that assumption is so great that these events are barely discussed in terms other than 'electoral' ones. i find this increasingly problematic. The citizens of the US are being blackmailed.

If this thread takes a speculative turn, as suggested above, IMO William Gibson got alot of things right in 'Neuromancer'. In this day, imagining an off-world, post-transnational, dynastic elite unencumbered by mere finance and possessed of a disembodied consciousness with its own AI isn't difficult. It could take two generations for something similar to the Tesser-Ashpool SA entity to appear. When a rearrangement of subjectivity occurs at that level, all bets are off.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:43 pm
by brekin
Hilarious Trump easter egg in the following review:

Honest Game Trailer: The Division

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:49 pm
by seemslikeadream

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:03 pm
by 82_28
I've been saying it for quite some time that we might as well just put a computer in "office" using social media. It immediately occurred to me a number of years ago when Watson beat all the best Jeopardy champions and I was constantly logging in to make the Empire State Building turn orange for the Broncos (I just wanted to see the gradual algorithmic changes). I'm not saying it works works. But we are nearing that day.

I think.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:18 pm
by JackRiddler
Agent Orange Cooper » Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:18 am wrote:Thought experiment for anyone who wants to partake: if there were ever an actual insurgency of an anti-establishment, anti-deep state, anti-Nazionist cabal, etc, candidate with real 'juice' (meaning no namby-pamby Green or Libertarian outlier candidate) entering the mainstream political arena of the US, what would you imagine it would look like?
The implication being what, it would look like Trump? You gotta be fucking kidding me. Sure it would, in a professional wrestling script. In fact, I mean it seriously every time I say that Wrestlemania XXIII is the first draft for Trump 2016 -- battle of the billionaires, establishment pushed out by hostile takeover.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NsrwH9I9vE

If it happens, when it happens, it will look like Sanders, but with five times as many people on the ground -- and they will be the thing, not the candidate. It will be people power, and it may carry a candidate, but it will be people power first and last. Or it will be nothing.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:33 pm
by Novem5er
@ brekin, that's a pretty good video and review of The Division. I actually have the game and played the heck out of it a few months back. I enjoyed it, but yes it is very silly in a lot of ways (although quite haunting in other aspects).

Here's another video review of the same game with Donald Trump in mind.
The game takes place a week after Donald Trump has been elected president. As a member of The Division, you are brought in by Ubisoft to shoot the shit out of black people. Pretty much, you are just shooting black people for the first third of this game. . .
Not true - but hilarious.


Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:09 pm
by seemslikeadream
'America is Back,' Trump Declares, Announcing Tax Cuts for Billionaires
"It was self-contradictory word salad," one critic said after Donald Trump's economic policy speech in Detroit

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/0 ... llionaires

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:24 pm
by Agent Orange Cooper
JackRiddler » Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:18 pm wrote:The implication being what, it would look like Trump? You gotta be fucking kidding me. Sure it would, in a professional wrestling script. In fact, I mean it seriously every time I say that Wrestlemania XXIII is the first draft for Trump 2016 -- battle of the billionaires, establishment pushed out by hostile takeover.
You're probably right about that. We are definitely living out a kayfabe script, but I'm not convinced our elected overlords have any say in where the story goes. Trump was booked as the babyface there, you may recall.
If it happens, when it happens, it will look like Sanders, but with five times as many people on the ground -- and they will be the thing, not the candidate. It will be people power, and it may carry a candidate, but it will be people power first and last. Or it will be nothing.
There's no time for that. The 60s are dead. 'People power' doesn't work. They've long since got a handle on that (see Bernie's campaign for an example of exactly how they mold and manipulate public sentiment to exactly the end they desire), and anyway, Americans are far too dumbed down, poisoned, brainwashed, and distracted to ever organize to any real effect (how'd Occupy work out?). What they have trouble with is someone playing their own game against them, which is what I feel Trump and who- or what-ever is backing him are doing.

Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:28 pm
by seemslikeadream
Trump is only playing one game and it's called Trump...there is no other thoughts in that little orange head but what can I do for myself

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:21 pm
by Agent Orange Cooper
Fear not everyone! Here is your GOP-backed ex-CIA Republican nominee to save the day!

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/a ... .eveyO2qwa

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:42 pm
by General Patton
Ex CIA, Goldman Sachs, ex a lot of stuff. He's connected to various NGOs involved in Syria, some Israeli connections through friends of friends, still looking through it all. Rick Wilson, Max Boot, Bill Kristol, all the usual suspects are behind him.

Ofc the optics on this are total shit for countering a populist campaign and he won't be able to do much no matter how much Israeli money gets thrown his way. But it's the thought that counts.