2016 Election Day Night

[MacCruiskeen]

Emphases added:

Rosa Clemente

3 hours ago

I have spent the last 16 months on the road, every college had students excited for Trump, they would listen to me speak then come up to me afterwards to tell me why they liked Trump and I listened, including some POC students. As much as I wanted to tell them why they were wrong, I listened, I understood, I also have a lot of people in my own family, not immediate family, but that second tier of family members that were proud they were going to vote for Trump. I am not shocked, surprised, I do feel a great sense of fear and dread especially for my brothers and sisters but I am an organizer and a realist at heart. Sleep tonight, work tomorrow, and next day and next day...

https://www.facebook.com/rosa.clemente. ... 4590033741

From her web page:

Rosa ran for Green Party Vice President in the 2008 U.S. election. Along with Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, the pair became the first women of color ticket in American history.

http://rosaclemente.net/biography-of-rosa-clemente/

[2012 Countdown]

Then there's this...

[tapitsbo]

Journalist, singular.

Many of these journalists have themselves been fond of calling for mass murder in unsubtle, literal terms.

A sense of proportion helps (it can help us appreciate moderate rebels like the one pictured above.)

[Morty]

I haven't been able to catch it myself, listening to various partial replays of his speech, but apparently Trump said words to the effect "however long this lasts, 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, 8 years..."

Does he know something we don't? (Is he thinking "well I might last two years before the courts catch up with me..."? Or maybe, at 70, today he's thinking "I'm too damn old for this shit!")

[RocketMan]

[stickdog99]

Did Democratic Underground really get hacked, or did it just close up shop after having finally served its ultimate purpose?

ya they so long and thanks for all the fish

"We are deeply disappointed that this has happened. But we'll be back."

I mean, does that sound like an actual response to an unexpected website hack?

[MacCruiskeen]

"We are deeply disappointed that this has happened. But we'll be back."

I mean, does that sound like an actual response to an unexpected website hack?

No. It sounds typically spooky.

ON EDIT: Their Twitter & Facespook pages (where "Skinner" and his two sidekicks promised to post regular updates about the "hack") have also been completely silent for at least the last seven hours. From the comments at Facespook:

Ben Ogden My DU handle is Truebrit71. I joined DU in 2002, but i was sent to Skinner purgatory four months ago. My crime? I said that Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate. Turns out i was right, and all you centrist DNC'ers were wrong.

I wish i could find some small token of comfort in that, but i can't. Why? Because this country in on the verge of electing an unstable, racist, misogynistic carnival barker to the highest office in the land.

Donald fucking Trump gets to pick the next two or three Supreme Court justices.

So, congratulations to you, the DNC and DWS for forcing a candidate on us that couldn't beat a man as despicable as Trump.

Great job assholes.

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https://www.facebook.com/democraticunderground

The Skinner Box, aka Operant Conditioning Chamber, has fulfilled its function.

Application to social media

Social networking services such as Google, Facebook and Twitter have been identified as using the techniques, critics use terms such as Skinnerian Marketing[7] for the way the companies use the ideas to keep users engaged and using the service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_c ... ng_chamber

[Morty]

From 13:35 in video below

"This has been a historic event, but to be truly historic we have to do a great job. I won’t let you down.

“And hopefully after 2 years or 3 years or 4 years, maybe even 8 years, you’ll say we did a great job.

“The campaign is over but the job is just beginning.

Sounds like he's just trying to tell us [edit: with the "2 or 3 year" thing] that there's every chance he'll deliver results well ahead of all expectations.

[8bitagent]

As one of the loudest anti Hillary cheerleaders, I will say I am beyond shocked at tonight. I also feel sick to my stomach seeing virtually everyone across my social
networks having a collective mental breakdown of grief. The combination of the arrogance of the DNC and Clinton campaign with regards to the primaries mixed with the
sheer smugness of HuffingtonPost media types was too much to take...but it doesn't feel fun to say the obvious. The obvious being they chose to ensure the most
unpopular and hated Democrat candidate would be the flagship instead of someone who inspired a generation. I think people know this. Some will say it was
Comey and Weiner that ruined Clinton's chances, or the hubris of the DNC annointing Hillary over Bernie. Most are saying its the "silent majority" of
bigots noone believed existed. Who knows. But ignoring much of the poor working class was going to come back to bite the establishment.

I think it's the zeitgeist. It feels like something fierce has been building up but the direction is unknown.

Gotta say I felt moved hearing Van Jones. I had CNN, NBC and other stations all on at once but Jones I thought was really profound.
Scary award goes to Richard Engle who looked extremely rattled the most, warning catastropic doom was coming. All this as riots have erupted across
California. Maybe a Warren/Van Jones 2020 run?

I was of two thoughts....that Brexit + the fact Dems haven't won a third term in almost a century, plus the anger for an outsider made Trump inevitable.
Yeah like many, the last few weeks I just assumed my original view: that Trump was an unintentional aloof spoiler. I became convinced they, the powers
that be or whatever, had it all sewn up for Hillary. Now Im wondering what scary new roadmap is going on. Or if anyone is steering the ship.

In a year that began with Bowie and Prince dying, and ended with the Cubs with an impossible win and scary clown hysteria...it seems almost
fitting Trump would win. People should be sending out good thoughts, not gloating. As much as I wanna say that its frustrating people dont flip out
over Western wars killing civilians as they are with Trumps win, regardless the deep psyche pain and trauma to half the country seems real.

To think, this is now the most powerful man in the entire world in two months.

[Novem5er]

8bitagent, good thoughts.

I've certainly been an anti-Hillary vocalist . . . but only hear. I want to make that clear. I did not spend my personal life or my public persona in the pursuit of talking down about Hillary. I came here, mostly anonymously, to release my angst about her. 9/10ths of my family were vocal supporters of Hillary and at least half of my personal friends. I made a couple notes to them about Lybia, etc, but I didn't campaign against her. Nobody I know changed their vote or didn't go out. They were too afraid of Trump.

I voted for Stein in Florida. *gasp* . . . but looking at the math, it didn't matter. Stein got 63,000 votes and Hillary LOST by more than 130,000 votes. If every Stein voter showed up for her, she still would have lost by 70,000 votes. I didn't know any Johnson voters that liked Hillary. In fact, most of them vocally hated Hillary, but couldn't stomach Trump, and thus went with Johnson. The overall vote in Florida INCREASED about 600,000 votes since 2012. Both bases came out in big numbers, but Trump's base came out more.

I do not regret voting for Stein. I voted my conscience and if I HADN'T and voted for Hillary, I feel like I would have wasted my vote. She still would have lost by 70,000 votes and I'd regret giving in to the DNC and ignoring my morals.

[8bitagent]

8bitagent, good thoughts.

I've certainly been an anti-Hillary vocalist . . . but only hear. I want to make that clear. I did not spend my personal life or my public persona in the pursuit of talking down about Hillary. I came here, mostly anonymously, to release my angst about her. 9/10ths of my family were vocal supporters of Hillary and at least half of my personal friends. I made a couple notes to them about Lybia, etc, but I didn't campaign against her. Nobody I know changed their vote or didn't go out. They were too afraid of Trump.

I voted for Stein in Florida. *gasp* . . . but looking at the math, it didn't matter. Stein got 63,000 votes and Hillary LOST by more than 130,000 votes. If every Stein voter showed up for her, she still would have lost by 70,000 votes. I didn't know any Johnson voters that liked Hillary. In fact, most of them vocally hated Hillary, but couldn't stomach Trump, and thus went with Johnson. The overall vote in Florida INCREASED about 600,000 votes since 2012. Both bases came out in big numbers, but Trump's base came out more.

I do not regret voting for Stein. I voted my conscience and if I HADN'T and voted for Hillary, I feel like I would have wasted my vote. She still would have lost by 70,000 votes and I'd regret giving in to the DNC and ignoring my morals.

I've been deleting all the anti hillary memes on my various social media networks:) I just don't get why the left isn't more angered by dropping bombs on people, especially from falsified premises (ie: Libya, Iraq)

I still don't get it. It just felt like the elites had it all sewn up for Hillary. Have our conspiracies about rigged "(S)elections" been false? Did they really let the people decide? Sure
seems like Trump won by a landslide. At one point tonight watching CNN, I thought Trump was going to win almost every state other than NY, NJ, HI and California.
People on twitter, facebook, etc are beyond pissed to say the least. But, it was a fair election, least on the surface. It was surreal to see the Clinton team mulling over not conceding.

I voted for Stein too(in California) I don't get why were not allowed to have more than two parties. I imagine people are going to get really into grassroots stuff now.
One more thing...so did we avoid war with Russia?

[stickdog99]

According to google, Clinton is now up over 100,000 in the popular vote:

https://www.google.com/search?q=electio ... //////////

[8bitagent]

My God Novem5er, just realized something....Alex Jones is now in the white house. Conspiracy culture dominated the Trump campaign, with Alex Jone's right hand man Roger Stone
being on the Trump team. Breitbart runs the Trump campaign. So nuts. Jeb and Obama said Trump would never insult his way to the White House... and yet, he did. Trump
4chan memed his way to 1600 Ave. Even crazier his new Trump hotel is a couple blocks away from the White House.

The idea of our president retweeting on the toilet 4chan /pol/ memes at 4am while being on the phone to Alex Jones is hilariously wtf.
What is Alex Jones and the anti government sort going to do now that they control the country? It'd be like Obama talking about 9/11 truth.
Maybe there was something to that whole kek/meme magic nonsense. I just never saw the raw authentic fervent enthusiasm for Clinton
like Trump supporters have.

As RI posters, its surreal...the anti government, anti globalist, conspiracy minded fervor a lot of us awoke to during Bush was inverted and used to annoint Trump
versus a liberal electorate who doesn't see a big scary conspiracy of "they". Talking about conspiracies and elites is now the realm of anti-semitism and trumpism
people will say. Like in the 90s when conspiracies were from the land of right wingism.


"Be sure you put your feet in the right place, then stand firm." Abraham Lincoln

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." - JFK

"Grab them by the pussy, you can do anything" - Trump

[Blue]

Goodbye Green Earth. We barely knew ye. The most powerful nation is now headed by someone who says "Global Warming is a Hoax." Who will not participate in any of the climate agreements, going against the rest of the world.

More fracking, more off-shore drilling, more strip mining, more evathin! We so smart. We gonna git jobs and stuff!

There is zero hope now that we can stay under 2C.

[Blue]

I haven't been able to catch it myself, listening to various partial replays of his speech, but apparently Trump said words to the effect "however long this lasts, 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, 8 years..."

Does he know something we don't? (Is he thinking "well I might last two years before the courts catch up with me..."? Or maybe, at 70, today he's thinking "I'm too damn old for this shit!")

He'll be bored in less than 2 years. He will be expected to actually um, work and he thinks he can just bail - hire top notch lawyers to get him out of it.