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Forthbase, yeah I re-read this. Wow. Just the connections alone and implications. http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/05/04/t ... nnections/

And lest we forget Kazakhstan and the energy connections to the world elite power brokers.

8bitagent wrote: he had a bone pegleg. So horrific. I cant see how people can call that "fake".

I felt the same way on the day of when I saw the image of him in the wheelchair - ashen and mutilated. I've gotten over it after having seen the many other images of him.

Alchemy wrote:The only evidence we have is still pics that they were there at the marathon but even then those could be faked I suppose, they claim to have video evidence but havent released it and I am sure they wont, most evidence will be preserved for trial so we wont see much before then if ever.

Right, and this forum has done a great job of finding and sorting what "evidence" that there is out there. Consider that this is not a courtroom. And decrying the lack of evidence while proclaiming Dzhokhar Tsarnaevs innocence seems awful... premature at least. Wouldn't almost every mother defend her child? Also what about the video barracuda posted? Everyone is a plant? Even a random guy on the street? I do wonder what became of the one victims claim that he looked Dzhokar in the eye right before the bomb went off? I am guessing that as we do become acquainted with more evidence that Dzhokar will not be considered "innocent". Maybe a a pawn, but not "innocent".

Yeah, even if the dude is a patsy, that does not necessarily mean he is "innocent", come on. Everyone here has read Dick Russell's book about Richard Case Nagell? A decent amount of JFK assassination research is spoiled by a relentless determination to prove that Oswald was innocent, just a poor misguided wannabe, oh the pity. Uh, yeah, no. Oswald and Nagell were up to something unsavory and illegal. Nagell was smart enough to get himself arrested. Oswald was either not that smart or did not have second thoughts. So...did any central Asians, Chechens, or Russians, or anyone get conspicuously arrested in the Boston region leading up to the bombing?

Looking at the family dynamics this seems like classic MO of the americans in "second world" countries of interest, tapping into organized crime, via marriage (or other such connections). coming from not so different background myself, this stinks a lot. The focus on this board, as usual, is so americano-centric, the "others" are viewed as objects duplicating the precise state of mind of the rogue governmental units that pull those stunts. This is leading no where, the stupid questions of whether they are "bad" or not, and so forth. its not the god given right of the usa to foster organize crime in other countries, then claiming "they were bad before", and lumping all "those other people" in a basket of "pawns we can use and recycle".
Not to mention how those CIA people traffick their daughters to create the family settings, by those bizarre marriages between the future "uncle of the patsy" and the handler's daughter. My very own sister is now married to a spooky (non jewish) american guy, I see the way it is done, Mengele would be proud. Deal with your own Nazis, and then with the intricacies of the chechens or what not.

hava007 wrote:Looking at the family dynamics this seems like classic MO of the americans in "second world" countries of interest, tapping into organized crime, via marriage (or other such connections). coming from not so different background myself, this stinks a lot. The focus on this board, as usual, is so americano-centric, the "others" are viewed as objects duplicating the precise state of mind of the rogue governmental units that pull those stunts. This is leading no where, the stupid questions of whether they are "bad" or not, and so forth. its not the god given right of the usa to foster organize crime in other countries, then claiming "they were bad before", and lumping all "those other people" in a basket of "pawns we can use and recycle".
Not to mention how those CIA people traffick their daughters to create the family settings, by those bizarre marriages between the future "uncle of the patsy" and the handler's daughter. My very own sister is now married to a spooky (non jewish) american guy, I see the way it is done, Mengele would be proud. Deal with your own Nazis, and then with the intricacies of the chechens or what not.

Appreciate your insight, hava!

The uncle and the widow's connections do substantiate your life story a little, don't they?
For anyone who has ever doubted hava's autobiography: Look at Tsarni, look at Russell.

But we kind of have to examine the second-world in order to detect who our bad guys are.
Ignore Chechnya, e.g., and we also wind up ignoring the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya.
We can't refrain from scrutinizing anything, anywhere. No tree can be left unbarked-up.

I, for one, would appreciate a link to somewhere where I could be updated as to hava's autobio. Color me very curious!

Jerky

Well well ...if I didnt know your government is funded by my rich jewish uncles I'd really think you might look into anything worth reading. but given the economic motivations that lie behind ALL of the us foreign policy, from all sides of political map, this is crap. ahah, but some second world places have been yielding more gold than others...the whores from my clan are better at blow jobs, contrary to chechens they can also write dissertations, play chopin and work miracles at the stock market.

I am not holding any expectation from any US related inquiry, as this is the main source of income for all of ya there, including those who purport to critique the order of things, perhaps mainly those...

So, if I need to deal with your rogue agents, wouldnt it be better to go to the top, namely, the crooks who fund the presidential elections, no ? they happen to be related..and you are not only useless fucks here, but bent and can be bought in very small crumbs. not to mention, dear 4th, your hacking attempts...

So, i mentioned this only in order to raise an eyebrow, as to where, officially, this thread has stooped, namely, to assist the mechanism supposedly under scrutiny, namely, false flag domestic terror (and foreign terror) using nazi methods of mind control, along with financial black dealings by all parties involved. it appears this is a racist, antisemitic AND STUPID board ?...well...

hava007 wrote:Looking at the family dynamics this seems like classic MO of the americans in "second world" countries of interest, tapping into organized crime, via marriage (or other such connections). coming from not so different background myself, this stinks a lot. The focus on this board, as usual, is so americano-centric, the "others" are viewed as objects duplicating the precise state of mind of the rogue governmental units that pull those stunts. This is leading no where, the stupid questions of whether they are "bad" or not, and so forth. its not the god given right of the usa to foster organize crime in other countries, then claiming "they were bad before", and lumping all "those other people" in a basket of "pawns we can use and recycle".
Not to mention how those CIA people traffick their daughters to create the family settings, by those bizarre marriages between the future "uncle of the patsy" and the handler's daughter. My very own sister is now married to a spooky (non jewish) american guy, I see the way it is done, Mengele would be proud. Deal with your own Nazis, and then with the intricacies of the chechens or what not.

keep looking at those two awful boys

missing the 'why'


the why

If you were a 19-year-old student and really intending to STRIKE A BLOW FOR ISLAM by risking your own freedom and entire future and perhaps your very life, would you -

- contruct two pretty crappy and relatively ineffective little bombs?

- set them off at the tail end of the Boston Marathon, and thereby succeed only in killing three harmless bystanders at random, one of them a child and one a foreigner?

- worry not a whit about the presence of a thousand cameras (including surveillance cameras AND TV CAMERAS) at the Boston Marathon finishing-line?

- go to a party and go to the gym next day?

- post no message or manifesto or demand?

- post (instead) numerous trivial and nonchalant messages on Twitter and Facebook?

- be so ice-cool in your EVIL MURDEROUS ISLAMIST RUTHLESSNESS that not one of your friends and acquaintances noticed even the tiniest change in your normally pleasant and friendly demeanour?

- hang around the city of Boston for days on end doing your normal everyday thang, indoors and out, while the world's mass media reported on the FBI's "feverish" efforts to find the culprits?

- make not the slightest effort to hide or escape?

Would you? Would you really?

Like hell you would.

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the brothers Tsarnaev just didn't want anyone to notice Syria and the last step to Iran


Syria: Israeli strikes aim to support terrorists


did Obama get and ignore a memo stating Chets determined to strike in U.S.?

see ? the loonies are loose here.

Yes, so your government is turning people to nuts, then blows them off at some point, or in other cases uses them as hard disc, or whores, or guinea pigs - and then you run a guessing game if this is meant to divert attention from this or that. really intelligent board..wow.

Let me see, if zombified people are blown off to divert attention from US pres deciding to free palestine, bring peace on earth and give candies to disabled poor kids, then its ok ? (rhetorical, sure its ok,in fact some people on this board masturbate on this possibility, and heat up the brain cookers for the poor human sacrifice, preferably non americans with really bad breath).

First we had this board suggesting to kill all victims of mind control,(except those who are friends of the speaker), then we heard that some victims deserve it coz their families are not nice to start with, then we had to endure the self righteous and self promoting dominatrixes who made us realize that american victims of american nazi tortures are better and superior, to "less important" (loud, impolite and ugly...) victims from other countries, and now its out - it takes two dubious chechens to sneak two wars on the american people. wow

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such human kindness, such anti fascism, such compassion...i am all in tears.

there is no 'this board' no one speaks for everyone here...and I will not have you lumping us all into one mega persona....and I LOVE this place and everyone here so just stop it.... we are all individuals with individual minds...they are my friends, some for over 12 years now...take the bullshit elsewhere

hava007 wrote:Well well ...if I didnt know your government is funded by my rich jewish uncles I'd really think you might look into anything worth reading. but given the economic motivations that lie behind ALL of the us foreign policy, from all sides of political map, this is crap. ahah, but some second world places have been yielding more gold than others...the whores from my clan are better at blow jobs, contrary to chechens they can also write dissertations, play chopin and work miracles at the stock market.

And if we somehow stop looking into Chechnya, that will help? I think not. Every tree.

I am not holding any expectation from any US related inquiry, as this is the main source of income for all of ya there, including those who purport to critique the order of things, perhaps mainly those...

So, if I need to deal with your rogue agents, wouldnt it be better to go to the top, namely, the crooks who fund the presidential elections, no ? they happen to be related..and you are not only useless fucks here, but bent and can be bought in very small crumbs. not to mention, dear 4th, your hacking attempts...

Okay, then, right. So, in order to be able to give survivors of abuse the respect they need in order to be believed (personally, I give them the benefit of the doubt, but that's just me) one seems to have to endure with maximum patience the occasional batshit-craziness, no doubt part of the curse of having been subjected to an extremely-improbable-but-real crazy-making life. As a rule, I keep private messages private. Except for an exception, like when I'm being accused of some crazy shit I have absolutely nothing to do with. Sorry, hava, but you should have just communicated with me more instead of running with whatever nonsense "4th tried to hack me" fantasy you seem to have settled on.

April 6th I get a Facebook friend request from hava.

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Moderator's NOTE:

I have excised this portion of the post, as it contained quite a bit of private information from hava007's messages that should remain private.

Sincerely,

Bruce Dazzling

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If you don't remember our email exchanges five years ago, I can dig into my ancient inbox and find them.I don't blame you for being suspicious of everyone, including me. I don't even blame you for making an ugly accusation about me on the board. I consider the batshit-crazy side to be the price of interaction and discussion, and even the price of being your friend, in whatever way virtual strangers can be friends. No harm, no foul. No foul, no harm.

So, i mentioned this only in order to raise an eyebrow, as to where, officially, this thread has stooped, namely, to assist the mechanism supposedly under scrutiny, namely, false flag domestic terror (and foreign terror) using nazi methods of mind control, along with financial black dealings by all parties involved. it appears this is a racist, antisemitic AND STUPID board ?...well...

If you feel that way, then: Bring the thread to a better, smarter place.

Keep the private messages (RI and Facebook) private.

Back on topic, please.