Moon landings---a partial 'hoax'?

[zangtang]

No. Jerry Garcia was MI6.

[elfismiles]

Yeah that "Kubrick" footage is SO obviously bogus ... there is a segment someone uploaded where the videographer coaches him on his response / acting.

As I said to a friend on fb about this last night before I was aware of the "coaching" ...

This is recent footage shot on a cellphone. Is someone claiming Kubrick is still alive? Because this is not footage of him before his death.
Watch how the image distorts around the periphery of the footage. That is an artifact of certain cellphone video cameras I've only started seeing in the last year or so.

There are other tells, like jargon / phrases used by the interviewer that are anachronistic. And of course as someone said, "Jerry Garcia!"

[BrandonD]

Though (IMO) the Apollo missions were definitely faked to a greater or lesser degree, the man in this video is not Kubrick. Watching and listening to actual interviews with Kubrick online, facial and vocal comparisons might pass a cursory glance but they clearly aren't the same person. Most obvious to me is the heavy lidded eyes, arched eyebrows, and more measured vocal cadence.

There does exist an extended video where the actor is called "Tom" at around the 5 minute mark.

[tapitsbo]

BrandonD, what's your take on the "gravity" explanation for the landings being real

(I am not well versed in this topic but my impression is that the mission was real but aspects of it are suppressed/distorted and there's a cloud of disinfo noise, the usual UFOlogy hocus pocus)

[elfismiles]

There does exist an extended video where the actor is called "Tom" at around the 5 minute mark.

Yeah someone pointed this clip out to me...

"Watch at 14:09 when "the interviewer" coaches the actor Tom about how to tell the story about Kubrick meeting Nixon. It's fake."

https://youtu.be/KPHRpFFRDUk?t=14m9s

[guruilla]

Intentionally implausible? Or just the work of a couple of stoners that is somehow made relevant through a combination of the internet with ever-decreasing levels of viewer-discernment?

[Nordic]

We're Jerry Garcia and Kubrick ever seen together in the same room? Hmm?

[Agent Orange Cooper]

http://blackbag.gawker.com/did-stanley- ... 1747558774

Seems like some folks are taking this seriously enough for a spokesman for Christiane Kubrick to come out and deny the allegations.

[guruilla]

http://blackbag.gawker.com/did-stanley-kubrick-fake-this-video-of-stanley-kubrick-1747558774

Seems like some folks are taking this seriously enough for a spokesman for Christiane Kubrick to come out and deny the allegations.

Which will only lend credence to the meme.

[guruilla]

Compare the voices in this clip: http://auticulture.com/wp-content/uploa ... n-Hoax.mp3

First voice: "..amateur night ... that's not a toy" = "Bill Hutchinson" as "Moon Crater Controller" in the fake moon landing film-set sequence from Diamonds Are Forever (1971). (Video below)

Second voice: "Villains ... serve in Hell," = Stanley Kubrick, in a 1972 interview, here.

Bill Hutchinson is a bit player who did about 20 movies and TV shows between 1966 & 1992, making it hard to find any online footage of him to compare his voice to "Moon Crater Controller." I did find Carry on Emmannuelle, in which he plays "First Reporter," seen in the sequence beginning 1:12:05, here. No obvious similarity of voice that I can detect (unlike that between Kubrick & MCC).

Ken Adam, who did the production design on Diamonds Are Forever, worked with Kubrick on Dr. Strangelove (1964) and Barry Lyndon, in 1975.

Not a smoking gun, for sure, but better than a poke in the eye. Of course voice recognition is highly subjective, so I'm curious to know if others hear it too, and to what degree.

Here's the full sequence from the Bond flick:

[BrandonD]

BrandonD, what's your take on the "gravity" explanation for the landings being real

(I am not well versed in this topic but my impression is that the mission was real but aspects of it are suppressed/distorted and there's a cloud of disinfo noise, the usual UFOlogy hocus pocus)

Can you elaborate on the gravity explanation?

[tapitsbo]

The patterns of dust being kicked up by the astronauts supposedly could only happen on the moon; this entire topic is something I haven't really delved into, however.

[BrandonD]

BrandonD, what's your take on the "gravity" explanation for the landings being real

(I am not well versed in this topic but my impression is that the mission was real but aspects of it are suppressed/distorted and there's a cloud of disinfo noise, the usual UFOlogy hocus pocus)

If I were forced to draw a conclusion, it would be that the entire program was a staged psychological operation. This conclusion is the simplest and requires only what I currently know about human nature, without any additional assumptions. The conclusion that the mission occurred and Nasa is hiding alien ruins (or something like that) requires many additional assumptions that I'm not ready to make.

Having said that, I'm ok with any situation being true, even the situation that Apollo happened 100% as described. It just doesn't appear that way to me.

[Elvis]

BrandonD, what's your take on the "gravity" explanation for the landings being real

(I am not well versed in this topic but my impression is that the mission was real but aspects of it are suppressed/distorted and there's a cloud of disinfo noise, the usual UFOlogy hocus pocus)

Can you elaborate on the gravity explanation?

OpLan posted this video which purports to calculate the gravity indicated by a the movement of a swinging strap:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kojsfbN8ulc

[tapitsbo]

Who here thinks the moon landing "hoax" theories were a testbed for reductive "hoax" theories of today?