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Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:00 pm
by seemslikeadream
Except that for the Soviets and for China, it doesn't end at state-capitalism, state-capitalism is just a remedial transition on the road back to Communism. Different script.
and so what is the United States on the road back to?

Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:09 pm
by slimmouse
slimmouse wrote:Both Russia and China are dominated by monopoly capitalist and state-monopoly capitalist enterprises. In Russia, state-monopoly capitalism has been a reality since the Khrushchev reforms of 1957, which changed the Soviet Union’s economy from socialist to a state-capitalist mode of production, while China, from the days of Mao’s ‘New Democracy’ to Xi Jinping today, has always pursued varying forms of state-monopoly capitalism.
I think that this is probably one in the eye for anyone who has ever distinguished capitalism from communism almost forever. State-capitalism
The very term shows Theyre one and the fukn same when you get right down to it.
With the usual suspects writing the scripts.
seemslikeadream wrote:Except that for the Soviets and for China, it doesn't end at state-capitalism, state-capitalism is just a remedial transition on the road back to Communism. Different script.
and so what is the United States on the road back to?

rinse and repeat

Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:14 pm
by slimmouse
Oh, and if you have to vote go for Sanders if you get the chance.
Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:34 pm
by American Dream
Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:42 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
AD, this trend of sharing idiot facebook memes is depressing.
That's not even a real fucking screenshot, the response is 20+ characters over Twitters limit. It is a real post, but it's not a real person running that Twitter account - the original version of that MS Paint ass meme didn't have her face or username blacked out -- it's "Uma Kompton," you can get some
background here.
Manufactured responses to manufactured signals -- political conversation in Post-Reality. Ghosts arguing forever.
Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:51 pm
by American Dream
Thanks for pointing that out.
Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:13 am
by Joe Hillshoist
It was refreshing to see him write something critical of Russia.
Dunno about the Stalin worship tho.
Still don't agree with his channeling The Protocols of the Elders of Zion either.
What does he really know about Hezbollah's motivations for anything or Iran's for that matter wrt to the Arab Spring.
Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:55 am
by seemslikeadream
he hasn't said anything yet about the pyramids in Egypt or the moon landing so who knows
Still don't agree with his channeling The Protocols of the Elders of Zion either.
and now that AD has finally starting to become a more reasonable person here I guess you have to channel his old warn out mantle?
Since solace is gone and AD doesn't do the dirty work any longer I suppose it's your turn..... someone has to....thanks for stepping up
gee and it only took 17 pages to produce that fucking bullshit
Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:23 am
by jakell
seemslikeadream » Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:55 pm wrote:he hasn't said anything yet about the pyramids in Egypt or the moon landing so who knows
Still don't agree with his channeling The Protocols of the Elders of Zion either.
and now that AD has finally starting to become a more reasonable person here I guess you have to channel his old warn out mantle?
I agree he's toned it down a bit, but the basic tune hasn't changed at all:
In his defence, I will admit that he is an equal-opportunity witch burner, even Wombat has come under the microscope lately. It seems there must be more than one bad-boy around though in order to give the toxic fungus (yes, he really said that) meme some bite, and here I am sharing the Satanic throne with Tapitsbo.
Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:48 am
by seemslikeadream
Since the inception of this place no one...that is
NO ONE has
EVER posted that they agree with
"that fucking thing"
...
NO ONE has
EVER come to the defense of
"that fucking thing"...the
ONLY people who have
EVER posted
"those fucking words" are the
VERY people who need to personally attack a poster for views that have
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with
"those fucking words" but hey it's a great conversation starter....an undercover personal attack so to speak.....a
DIRTY TRICK ....when you ain't got nothin' else use it....it is a lazy man's sledge hammer...or something

Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:17 am
by seemslikeadream
Nasrallah had fallen for Zionism’s great deception, for we have proven since 2011 that the Arab Spring was a well thought-out, well executed geostrategic project to design a New Middle East in accordance with Israeli hegemony.
I was speaking with Alice the other day about that quote from the last article by Colmáin. Here is part of the conversation we were having...she gave me permission to quote her here and I thank her for that.
He's absolutely correct. Nasrallah did fall into the trap, just as too many of us did. He and Hizbullah had their own, unforgivably narrow reasons for wanting Mubarak and Qadhafi to be overthrown, and these blinded them to the reality of what was really going on. In that way, we all fell for the deception, each of us driven by our own opposition to Mubarak, Gadhafi and Bin Ali and the rest, but neglecting to look at the bigger picture, and we saw only what we so badly wanted to see, and what we were allowed to see, of course.
As for Iran, that's a totally different story. Iran indeed has big plans to be an empire, and the "Arab Spring" was the great opportunity it's been dreaming of. Iran's pattern is to exploit instability and fragmentation -- it doesn't cause them, but they provide the ideal conditions for Iran to penetrate and grab a foothold in countries that would have otherwise been closed to it. This is true even when the instability and fragmentation are caused by Iran's mortal enemies, as part of their own plans.
I strongly disagree with those who dismissively describe Hizbullah as merely "Iran's proxy". This is not true. Hizbullah is highly dependent on Iran for money and arms to defend Lebanese territory, but its agenda is very much an Arab nationalist one. That is in direct contradiction to Iran's agenda, for whom Arab nationalism is anathema. Saudi influence has literally forced Hizbullah into Iran's arms, and Saudi blindness and stupidity (if not insanity) keep it there. Nasrallah has all but spelled it out, in one memorable speech when he described how Iran's help was crucial in liberating and defending Lebanese territory from Israel's repeated invasions and 18-year military occupation, and asked when the Arabs had ever offered to help and been refused, or offered to help, and the Iranians had been chosen instead? Basically, the choice presented by the Arabs (led, of course, by Saudi Arabia) has been either to submit to Zionist occupation and enslavement, or to accept Iran's help.
By the way, I really enjoyed the whole article, which I found enlightening.
Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:58 am
by American Dream
Yes- jakell is your friend, he is an anti-fascist, and he would never, ever attempt to manipulate you.
Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:17 pm
by Searcher08
Can one tell the difference?
Sets himself up as an interrogating WitchFinder?
Posts masses of material he admits he has not even read
Posts the same piece multiple times
Admits he has very little life experience around actually combatting anti-Semitism
Supports and celebrates violence against the people he dislikes
Posts the same material multiple times
Gives Israel a free pass as a "Settler Colonialist state"
Avoids getting in factual debates
Argues by ad hominem and invoking "critical thinking" rather than displays it
Displays profound guilt by association behaviour "Six Degrees of David Icke"
Very seldom incorporates feedback
Gets suspended multiple times
Engages in debate
Brings excellent new material to the forum eg John Michael Greer
Provides real world experience of debating far right people in England
Supports action that works,
Doesn't engage in Otherings or CopyPasta Monsoons
Shows humour
Refuses to be put off by clouds of "fogweed"
Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:48 pm
by jakell
Actually, I don't
claim to be an 'anti-fascist'. This is part of a theme that I started to develop when you used to throw the term around pretty carelessly, have reinforced a fair bit and revisited yesterday in connection with that 'Dover' article of yours.
Re: Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:24 pm
by American Dream
Anti-fascist or just "friend" of the cause, jakell can always count on Searcher...