A Toast to Banned and Disappeared Posters

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Nordic wrote:zionist racist and genocidal warmongering fucks
Nordic wrote:why you don't go somewhere where you can hang out with like minded zionist-loving war-criminal-loving, human-rights-violating fellators like yourself.
Nordic wrote: Pure human shit.
Sweejak wrote:Fascism is not an ideology. It's an attitude.
I'd say Nordic is showing some attitude of his own here.
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Jeff wrote:
Nordic wrote:
Jeff wrote:
- 17breezes
Breezes is gone not on account of his beliefs, but because of his conduct.

Well if that's the case you should really get rid of that "this is not a fascist board" nonsense in your "rules".

How, pray tell, are zionist racist and genocidal warmongering fucks NOT fascists?
How about "This is not a racist and genocidal warmongering fuckery board"?

I'm funny that way. Even when a member posts racist, genocidal, warmongering fuckery linking 9/11 to the Protocols of the Christ-killing Jews with the endorsement that "it sure seems to have a lot of good info," I like to think it must be an honest mistake. And eventually I get around to cleaning up my own mistakes.
That was a mistake on my part, and I admitted it. I had just started to read it when I posted it here. Didn't read far enough down, obviously.

Tell me again how there's no double standard here. Any hint of anti-Jewishness and a person gets jumped all over here, but someone who's a bonafide Zionist fascist and obvious troll, can come here and have a nice long stay, then the people who complain about him get banned.

And then it is said that it wasn't his views that were the problem ......

It's no wonder Mac isn't back. And others. You wonder why people go ballistic over this??
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barracuda wrote:
Nordic wrote:zionist racist and genocidal warmongering fucks
Nordic wrote:why you don't go somewhere where you can hang out with like minded zionist-loving war-criminal-loving, human-rights-violating fellators like yourself.
Nordic wrote: Pure human shit.
Sweejak wrote:Fascism is not an ideology. It's an attitude.
I'd say Nordic is showing some attitude of his own here.

Yeah, so, what's the problem with anything I said there? It was all quite true.

What's up with the "oh let's be nice to the fascist trolls" BULLSHIT?

WHY?
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Describing someone as "pure human shit" is hardly a statement of "truth".

It is a negative opinion, expressed in an inflammatory and dehumanizing way.
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I disagree.

I mean, literally he's not shit. He's flesh and blood. But as far as I'm concerned anyone who actively supports genocide, the ghettoization of a people, the murder of children and pregnant women, and high-tech explosive bullying of a population in general, the destruction of entire towns and villages, the destruction of farms and fruit trees ....

... is an extremely low form of humanity, and someone who does not deserve to be given ANY consideration whatsoever as to their widdle "feelings" or their "views" or any such bullshit.

Unless you want to hit me up with the "Hitler liked children and Disney cartoons" business. He liked those things, so he was just a fucked up human being who really just wanted to be understood.

Listen, I don't mean to be combative here, I'm bringing this up in the lounge because it's obvious that Big Daddy doesn't want us discussing this in the general forum, which is fine.

If it's not fine to discuss here, either. so be it, let me know and I'll shut up.

But I have to say, all emotional response aside, I do not understand how someone who basically came into the site and said to us all "Hi, I'm a troll and I'm gonna troll your site and basically make it unbearable" isn't dealt with accordingly. I mean, how much more obvious does a troll have to be here?

I just don't get it.
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I didn't like what 17breezes was doing at all and didn't agree with his position either, but I still say that calling someone "pure human shit" is a negative opinion, expressed in an inflammatory and dehumanizing way.

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I mean, how much more obvious does a troll have to be here?
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American Dream wrote:I didn't like what 17breezes was doing at all and didn't agree with his position either, but I still say that calling someone "pure human shit" is a negative opinion, expressed in an inflammatory and dehumanizing way.

Emphasis added...
Hm, okay, that's your opinion.

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Way back in the day, there was a guy in my neighborhood who threw great parties. Always a good time, lot's of hot chicks, etc etc. They were AWESOME. But, after awhile, as word got around, it seemed that more and more loudmouth self righteous assholes showed up, one or two at first, then more over time. At the same time, I noticed fewer and fewer hot chicks, the cops were called more often, a few brawls and it wasn't long after that that we were all sitting around at a different party reminiscing about how great the other guys parties used to be...good times.

Two things. Don't be a loudmouth self righteous asshole at somebody else's party and two, if the self righteous loudmouth assholes show up at -YOUR- party, don't let them in.

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Nordic wrote:Listen, I don't mean to be combative here, I'm bringing this up in the lounge because it's obvious that Big Daddy doesn't want us discussing this in the general forum, which is fine.

I just don't get it.
You seem combative much of the time, and wtf is up with your continual slurs on Jeff and mods when you're free to leave?
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Cosmic Cowbell wrote:Way back in the day, there was a guy in my neighborhood who threw great parties. Always a good time, lot's of hot chicks, etc etc. They were AWESOME. But, after awhile, as word got around, it seemed that more and more loudmouth self righteous assholes showed up, one or two at first, then more over time. At the same time, I noticed fewer and fewer hot chicks, the cops were called more often, a few brawls and it wasn't long after that that we were all sitting around at a different party reminiscing about how great the other guys parties used to be...good times.

Two things. Don't be a loudmouth self righteous asshole at somebody else's party and two, if the self righteous loudmouth assholes show up at -YOUR- party, don't let them in.

:dalek:

Agreed. That's why you kick the trolls out. I mean, I'm glad he got the boot, finally, but learning that it wasn't for his views is what's got me trying to get an explanation. I still haven't gotten one, but hey, it looks like I won't.

As far as being combative, I'm only combative against trolls and fascists.

The rest of you? :lovehearts:
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Nordic wrote:I mean, I'm glad he got the boot, finally, but learning that it wasn't for his views is what's got me trying to get an explanation. I still haven't gotten one, but hey, it looks like I won't.

As far as being combative, I'm only combative against trolls and fascists.
Knock yerself out then...

As far as who the judge might be regarding who may or may not be a "troll", which to me is now quite a useless term, much like Nazi and Fascist, since they are tossed about here so freely without regard to true definitions, I know it ain't you, or Mac or anyone else here. WHY?

BECAUSE IT AIN"T YOUR FUCKIN PARTY - THAT'S WHY. We are all simply guest and ARE NOT owed explanations. Don't like it...find another party.

Justifying ASSHOLISM in the name of fighting the good fight is simply lame and weak. And it's insulting to the host, in that you somehow assume that Jeff and his crew are somehow unable to recognize -AND- deal with the situations on their own.

FWIW
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Cosmic Cowbell wrote:
Nordic wrote:I mean, I'm glad he got the boot, finally, but learning that it wasn't for his views is what's got me trying to get an explanation. I still haven't gotten one, but hey, it looks like I won't.

As far as being combative, I'm only combative against trolls and fascists.
Knock yerself out then...

As far as who the judge might be regarding who may or may not be a "troll", which to me is now quite a useless term, much like Nazi and Fascist, since they are tossed about here so freely without regard to true definitions, I know it ain't you, or Mac or anyone else here. WHY?

BECAUSE IT AIN"T YOUR FUCKIN PARTY - THAT'S WHY. We are all simply guest and ARE NOT owed explanations. Don't like it...find another party.

Justifying ASSHOLISM in the name of fighting the good fight is simply lame and weak. And it's insulting to the host, in that you somehow assume that Jeff and his crew are somehow unable to recognize -AND- deal with the situations on their own.



FWIW

We may not be owed explanations but we can certainly ask for them.

We are all free to do that.

And I'm not going to censor myself for the good of "the group" whatever that is. I will not be polite to monsters in order that I don't "rock the boat" or whatever the fuck keeps people silent in the face of monsterism.

But I will shut up now about this particular episode.
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chiggerbit wrote:
I haven't been around long but it was my impression that Mac was not at all boorish until breezes showed up.
Hah! That's almost funny;
Well, laugh your ass off then.

He was always a gentleman to me.
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