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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 11:38 am
by Karmamatterz
The Q thing is disinfo op most likely. I'm surprised there isn't already a thread on here to discuss how obvious the entire Q thing was used leading up to the election. It seems likely that Q is being used as a broad brush to target those who question the Covid narratives, and maybe other things.
The extremely off his rocker editor, and former friend of mine I mentioned who nearly died after his second vax, has accused me of being a Qanon follower. It was clear to me he was rather clumsy and stupid about it and was simply taking cues from the mainstream media to make the comments he did, similarly to Freemason's comment.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 2:08 pm
by dada
I guess the basic idea here, though, is that when the mass consumer takes a step back and thinks about what they've been thinking about, it appears dead and ugly, knows it is unsightful and would rather not be looked at, but simply loved on social media.
And when the thought consumer takes a step back and thinks about what they've been thinking about, it appears alive and not nearly so ugly as all that, and knows itself as the industrial production of thought.
So where the mass consumer "sees what it would rather not see," the thought consumer sees a strong foundation with which to re-build frame of reference.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 2:21 pm
by dada
Also that the impasse in the dialogue isn't between "the elite's narrative" and "those who reject the elite's narrative," but between "those who accept all elite narratives as utopian fantasy," and those who accept them as their own.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 3:40 pm
by dada
And again, that it isn't "mass consumers vs thought consumers," but that each individual is both a mass consumer and a thought consumer.
The idea is maybe like strength and mercy. For the mass consumer, mass "mercifully" pulls, and thought is severe and pushes away. For the thought consumer, mass thought is thought to be the severe mass that pushes away, and thought "mercifully" pulls.
When the mass consumer consumes the living mass thought to be produced by the "merciful pull, pulling away,'" its own mass begins to severly pull, and the thought consumer pushes mercifully, gently away. And the dead world of mass production becomes "a discovered mass of forces with a negatively-positive charge."
The mass consumer severly pulls, doesn't "get severe." It's only severe in the sense that it pulls so hard, the thought consumer will crash into it if it isn't super merciful.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 4:37 pm
by dada
Finally, it raises the question in the context of the message board. For me, having interacted with and through the Internet for the last twenty years or so, puts it in the perspective that the message board is a social media form. The Internet is maybe the original social media form, then, built by commerce and information engineering.
Without going any further back, I can already see clearly how the corporatization of the social media form inhibits thought production by flooding it with tailored information. So I'm saying something like, the Internet naturally inhibits thought production, all that can be found on it is remnants of thought production. But in the corporate form, all that can be found are remnants of remnants. So with the message board, we still have a social media form that is somewhere in between.
edited first to add "by flooding it with information," and second to add the "tailored."
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 4:39 pm
by stickdog99
liminalOyster » 09 May 2021 22:41 wrote:Belligerent Savant » Sun May 09, 2021 4:06 pm wrote:.
I'll add that -- for whatever it's worth -- while I believe the covid strain to be the result of lab experimentation, i'm agnostic, at the moment, about whether the leak was an
accident or
intentional.
It may well be this was all planned years in advance, timed in part for advances allowing internet connections to be fast and efficient enough to allow for white-collar work remotely, while also permitting smaller/supply chain business to be absorbed by/sold to larger entities, or otherwise die on the vine (in turn leading to long-term unemployed masses highly reliant on govt handouts, opening the door for eventual UBI and other Great Reset-esque
initiatives, etc)
If it was an accidental leak, no doubt power structures capitalized and improvised/refined their approach as months went by.
If it was purposeful from the start, it explains the efficiency of conditioning and psychological tactics inflicted at a wide scale from the onset, not to mention the READY TO DEPLOY marketing/propaganda campaigns that looked polished and crisp within the first ~month of this 'pandemic'.
One can argue, however, that these tactics have been fine-tuned for years, waiting for the right set of circumstances to be unleashed, intentionally or not.
Still, right now, as of May 2021, all things considered, my vote is this was no 'accident'.
Trying to understand this scenario/argument, how does vaccine fit in to this hypothetical scenario for you?
I know you didn't ask me, bit to me the whole purpose of Gain of Function research on viruses is to make new and improved diseases that we are then conditioned to believe (without
any long-term, large scale or otherwise convincing scientific evidence I might add) that only Big Tech Pharma can cure.
"We made the disease. So you have to trust u$ when we tell you we are the only one$ who can cure it."
Re: Wow.
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 4:40 pm
by stickdog99
JackRiddler » 09 May 2021 13:46 wrote:
Oh right. Remember that. Fucked up.
It's almost always the easy targets who do the risky stories, though. They've already lost their status, so there's a freedom in it.
In some cases it's more like they're providing inoculation against a real story being taken seriously, isn't it? Not with this story, I don't think. But we can name certain tireless parties whose job seems to be to always be first on the scene of a breaking phenomenon to get the details wrong, hype false or dumb angles, spin it for a party-line rendering, use it for their own schtick, divert blame and attention to their favorite target, trash any chance a story will be taken seriously once it's associated with the likes of them, etc. (Used to be Alex Jones...)
But I find it fucking amazing that some of the revelations herein are so little known and that so many useful idiots thought they were taking Trump to task by abandoning their critical, scientific, professional minds.
Years of corporate media activity in a nutshell -- #Russiagate, panic over the threat of a peace deal in Korea, talk of covfefe and being "orange" rather than moves toward actual fascism, the Ukrainian impeachment strategy, slam him not for being even more neoliberal than the last couple but for being 'populist', etc. In truth most of this was enabling Trump. Whatever they thought they were doing, corporate media were serving as adjuncts to a reelection that would have been assured if not for Covid and the 2020 depression.
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Exactly.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 4:50 pm
by stickdog99
The BlueAnon/QAnon frame has increasingly become the
only two frames of reference that US citizens utilize to process any and all information they are presented. Even the least political, most objective scientific information and analysis is reflexively reacted to not on its merits but on whether or not its dissemination "helps Trump."
For the hundreds of millions of people who intensely love or hate him, Trump
is cognitive dissonance personified.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 4:54 pm
by stickdog99
Yeah, it's pretty clear that you are a witting promulgator of the bullshit BlueAnon/QAnon frame.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 4:56 pm
by stickdog99
That's being charitable. In this case, our aethereal dada somehow finds himself beneath the fray.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 5:03 pm
by stickdog99
dada » 10 May 2021 13:22 wrote:I am a typical thinker, without a doubt. But typical thinkers are rare, and their words are so different than what you find in mass consumer culture, that they look like they are speaking in a foreign language.
It's pretty funny that you keep using that half-word, 'meta.' Meta is resharing reshared reshares of social media, the box inside the box in side the box, like dead matrushka dolls in coffins. Talking about what other people are talking about, what other people are talking about. Each box becomes another minus 1. If I'm writing about writing, or thinking about thinking, that is just normal thinking, plus 1. It only looks odd to you, because you have forgotten what real, active and lucid writing and thinking looks like.
And if you confine yourself to writing about yourself writing about yourself writing about writing and thinking about thinking, there's the added bonus of meta-narcissism.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 5:28 pm
by LolaB
stickdog99 wrote about Dada:
And if you confine yourself to writing about yourself writing about yourself writing about writing and thinking about thinking, there's the added bonus of meta-narcissism.
Exactly!!
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 5:35 pm
by dada
I'll be out of your hair soon enough, please be patient. Also know that other members have voiced appreciation of the effort that I'm making, and your snarky comments and emoticons say nothing that reflects on me or my words.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 6:11 pm
by dada
As well if you allowed me into your "little club," for the briefest moment, you might see that everything I've been saying in each thread has been relevant to the topics. It's like the narratives of the threads are feeling threatened by the foreign narrative and its weirding ways, and the "narrative representatives" unthinkingly attack it, like it's a virus to be expelled by the host's immune response, to make the threads "healthy" once again.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 8:53 pm
by stickdog99
If you want to be in my little club, you have to be able to laugh at yourself on occasion.