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[orz]

Hugh here's the usual reminder: NOBODY agrees with you. At best they agree with the fragments of truth in your rambling, or the valid ideas and sources you do a decent job of finding but a terrible job of presenting/interpreting. EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE THE BOOKS/ARTICLES YOU REFERENCE WOULD UNDOUBTEDLY CONSIDER YOU A NUT. do they work for the CIA too?

[Code Unknown]

I know people here are always criticizing you for your lack of appreciation of art, and they have a point. This little painting alone, not withstanding the entirety of the artist's output, much less the import of the art movements he was allied with, has shaped culture and thought across the globe in ways that the CIA could only dream of:

Uh... WHAT????????

[Code Unknown]

Hugh here's the usual reminder: NOBODY agrees with you. At best they agree with the fragments of truth in your rambling, or the valid ideas and sources you do a decent job of finding but a terrible job of presenting/interpreting. EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE THE BOOKS/ARTICLES YOU REFERENCE WOULD UNDOUBTEDLY CONSIDER YOU A NUT. do they work for the CIA too?

Orz, here's a reminder for you: get a fucking life and stop e-stalking HMW everywhere he posts around here and talking shit - the same shit - about him over and over again without adding anything whatsoever to any of the conversations. It's fucking obnoxious. You think he's crazy: we get it. I'm sure this won't stop you but goddamn.

HMW doesn't need me to defend him, that's not why I'm writing this. As someone who values the information/insight/camaraderie/etc. this community is capable of, I'm just really sick on my own account of seeing this endless one-note campaign of pure mean, shrill, sadistic, bullying negativity from you (and a couple others here, to varying degrees), almost all directed at this one person. What are you, 10? And why is this considered OK here?

[Occult Means Hidden]

And why is this considered OK here?

4 realz homes.

I've been wondering lately. Who is HMWs? I wonder if he posts on other boards. I wonder if he's met with the same arguments. Why Rigint?- I ask myself. Is it the initial reaction to the 9/11 truth current on this board? So much else of it is anithesis to his views. Of course, I LOVE the fact that diverse views are on this board. Although, lately, its suffering a slow decline.

And what is the endgame? Is HMWs collecting his research for a book? Will he have a website or a blog in the near future?

How can he be so astute to the possibility of social control, but not occulted "high weirdness" and it's invisible reach in our psyches, our lives and the acts of those demented and enlightened alike, who try to appease this undercurrent with whatever sacrificial ritual they find best suited for purposes begging to be discovered by research AND intuition.

This is what i'm wondering to myself.

You know intuition right Hugh? The feeling of the hairs standing up on the back of your neck. The goose-bumps. The inexplicable longings? The unseen seen sturring from what was otherwise a normal blackness. Some see something other than the dark when their eyes are closed. What are they to you? Just chemical reactions?

I agree. FUCK the WOO. It's stupid and distractionary. But could it also be real? If so, what does that mean to you? What does that mean to the intelligence agencies and their motivations? What does it mean to everyone on planet Earth?

Welcome to Rigint Hugh. I'd like to pretend your archives of past material culminates to this moment when you realize the something beyond - and start brand new.

[stefano]

I got around to reading Bernays's Propaganda for the first time yesterday. It's online here, and short. I recommend it.

[IanEye]

Cap'n Smith and Pocahontas / Had a very mad affair / When her daddy tried to kill him / She said, 'Daddy, oh, don't you dare!'



Eye'd like to sigh on her OP....

[barracuda]

Uh... WHAT????????

You got me, I'll bite. What?

[just_dude]

Uh... WHAT????????

You got me, I'll bite. What?

Mickey Mouse, dumbshit.

[barracuda]

Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me.

[just_dude]

Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me.

Got any research to back that claim up?

[barracuda]

Well not in front of me, but a simple thought experiment should be enough to validate my contention.

Dali's Soft Construction with Boiled Beans (Premonition of Civil War) was painted in his small studio in Spain in 1936. It is undoubtably among Dali's most famous and popular images, but by no means his most famous. Let us see if we can assess the ripple effect in our culture of this artwork, bearing in mind that altough it is by no means the best example of my contention, it is a representative one.

Let's attempt to estimate the raw number of reproductions of this work that may have been made since it was first exhibited:

• - Consider the gallery and museum catalogues. Hard to say. Hundreds?
  
  - Consider the number of general art history books which may have featured this painting. Amazon lists 640 in english alone available in it's catalogue as of today. (These numbers are almost certainly low by several orders of magnitude in consideration of the publishing history of such books over the last seventy years in many languages besides English and many countries besides the U.S.)
  
  - Consider the number of books on Surrealism (Amazon - 220), or on the career of Dali (Amazon - 50), or on the Spanish Civil War (Amazon - 50)
  
  - And how about photographic reproductions of the painting used for illustrative purposes outside of the realm of art history? For example, in books or articles dealing with human emotional states, anxiety, mental illness? I can't really guess, but I know they are plentiful.
  
  - Now consider the number of books printed in each of these editions. The lowest number of a printed edition such as these would be 5,000. However considering the number of art history students in a fair-sized iniversity required to purchase a book possibly referencing this painting such as Gardner's Art Through the Ages certainly some of these numbers appraoch the millions.
  
  - Posters? Art history lecture slides? Postcards?
  
  - How about google searches? For the exact phrase, lest there be any confusion, "Soft Construction with Boiled Beans" I get 11,200 results.
  
  - An image search of the same exact phrase gives me 2,670 pictures, virtually all of them of this exact painting.
  
  - A google search for "Dali" gives 28,100,000 results.
  
  - An image search for "Dali" gives 3,430,000 results.

Now take into account that several generations of individuals have not simply looked at this work, but rather have actively studied it for one reason or another.

And consider that the Philadelphia Museum of Art, where the painting has been on virtually continuous display since 1950, welcomes one million visitors per year.

So, keeping in ind that this 40 x 40 inch painting was created by a single individual at a neglible materials cost over a period of a few months with a cumulative number of man-hours likely less than 200, I think you get what I'm aiming at - that the CIA can only dream of getting this kind of ROI from their psyops.



Have you ever seen it before, dude? It is a virulently and explicitly anti-fascist painting.

[IanEye]

[barracuda]

^X2

[IanEye]

[Code Unknown]

Well not in front of me, but a simple thought experiment should be enough to validate my contention.

Congratulations, you just proved people have seen that tacky painting. And that it's in books. Bravo! (I had no idea!)