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Doggone -- I saw that link about the winter sun reflected off jetliner contrails on google yesterday but got sidetracked and forgot; So thanks for bringing it up here. IMHO, I think that IS the best-fit hypothesis I've seen yet. The way the exhaust begins as a dark smudge but then fans-out into a wide swath of fiery orange-ish 'flames' just didn't conform to anything I'd seen re: missiles -- but thanks to the UFO researcher for pointing it out, it DOES, to my eyes anyway, look like what a jet's rapidly-expanding vapor-trails whose ice-crystals magnify and reflect the late-winter golden-yellow light of the setting sun, WOULD look like. Makes perfect sense. Ditto what apparently also lit the other two spotted aircraft. Sure had me bamboozled for a while there!

crikkett wrote:

Joe Hillshoist wrote:Space junk falls, and its obvious that its space junk.

You can tell from the way it falls. Unlike things which enter the atmosphere under speed, or are in there anyway under their own power. They don't appear to be falling.

(I know this sounds silly but if you have seen it you will know exactly what I mean. The only force acting on it is gravity, and that is obvious.)

Things don't fall upward at a 45deg angle. And they don't fall straight up either.

A grainy photo shot by Ms. Stewart shows a tube-like object flying at a 45-degree angle to the left against a grey sky, with an orange flame trailing behind. Ms. Stewart said she saw two other similar objects on the horizon, including one that appeared to be flying straight up into the air.

Yeah that was my point actually....

Although perhaps if you were directly under it and it wasn't heading straight for you ... tho that doesn't anything sound like this at all.

I have seen planes look a fair bit like the images in Cuda's pick if they are in the west above the sun, round sunset, especially just after it. They look like a cross between comments, rockets and something else.

the sun usually has to be below them on the horizon tho, and I've never seen them occur them low on the horizon, tho that may have as much to do with flight paths round here.

Its a brief thing tho too, usually lasts a second or two (maybe 10 at most) before it ends and becomes obvious its a plane.

Also ... there is a hint of a suggestion of wings in the things I've seen, unlike the photos.

Just saw your post starman .. the wings thing still makes me wonder, but if it was a misslie test then I'd imagine it'd be a similar effect. I've only ever seen it on planes flying straight and level on a n/s line in the west around or after sunset.

are there any other pictures than the one?

I believe there are three, justdrew; I posted two of them in the OP.

StarmanSkye wrote:Doggone -- I saw that link about the winter sun reflected off jetliner contrails on google yesterday but got sidetracked and forgot; So thanks for bringing it up here. IMHO, I think that IS the best-fit hypothesis I've seen yet. The way the exhaust begins as a dark smudge but then fans-out into a wide swath of fiery orange-ish 'flames' just didn't conform to anything I'd seen re: missiles -- but thanks to the UFO researcher for pointing it out, it DOES, to my eyes anyway, look like what a jet's rapidly-expanding vapor-trails whose ice-crystals magnify and reflect the late-winter golden-yellow light of the setting sun, WOULD look like. Makes perfect sense. Ditto what apparently also lit the other two spotted aircraft. Sure had me bamboozled for a while there!

Finnish UFO researcher says winter sun on jet streams creates rocket effect
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadi ... YySD29T-RA

I too had seen that link and forgot about it.

If this is correct though, then it should be easy to replicate the effect.

And where is this ufo researcher's 20 years of data? Does he have a website?

- SMiles

EDIT: well they do have a website...
http://www.ufofinland.org