Obsama: Sacrifice/Deification/Unification

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Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible. -- Lawrence of Arabia
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1. Plutonia, thanks for replying to my post. Makes a lot more sense to me, as I did have trouble fully digesting it all.


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I am wholly unqualified to make this comment being as I have only this minute been introduced to many of the concepts herein but:

WOW!
Fascinating, intriguing, well thought out, and really mind blowing.

Thank you, Plutonia.
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Canadian_watcher wrote:I am wholly unqualified to make this comment being as I have only this minute been introduced to many of the concepts herein but:

WOW!
Fascinating, intriguing, well thought out, and really mind blowing.

Thank you, Plutonia.
Thanks C_W.

The implications of Girard's Mimetic Theory are truly mind blowing, of which the Obsama thing is just a tiny, perfect drop creating the merest ripple. Potentially it reframes that sort of manipulation as warranted. Chreest! I can't believe I just said that!
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According to this theory, I would have to say that it perfectly fits with the public needing to supplant and project their hopes, dreams, hate and fear and extreme archtype ideals into polarized projections

11 4 2008

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5 1 2011

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I wonder how many days are between those two dates? I know Obama won 77 days before he was sworn in as 44th president(77-44=33)
Stanley Kubrick died 666 days before 2001, and the Madrid "al Qaeda" blasts were 911 days after 9/11
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Osama bin Laden =

barack ObAMA

joe biDEN

and mix in a little sarah pALiN

Mash it all up, and see what happens. I tried to tell you guys.
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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freemason9 wrote:Osama bin Laden =

barack ObAMA

joe biDEN

and mix in a little sarah pALiN

Mash it all up, and see what happens. I tried to tell you guys.

Oh definitely, I think a lot of people on here saw it in summer 2008.

The second I saw this poster, I thought "Osama bin Laden"

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I want to share some news -
1. I hit level 48 in Farmville
2. I asked Jeff to remove my account.
3. Wish to thank you for the lovely company during the "dark night of the soul".

The reason I am writing it in this thread, is because it kind of sums it up :wave: Will be lurking to read, and wishing you all a great time here, and happy spring season.


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8bitagent wrote:Image
I don't like that Biden.
8bitagent wrote:
Holy crap on a stick, once again I am blown away by a new blog discovery. Previous mind blowing came from reading Goro, Kotze, CopycatEffect and Wrong Way Wizard
References this one: http://littledynamo.blogspot.com/
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Stephen Morgan wrote:
8bitagent wrote:Image
I don't like that Biden.
8bitagent wrote:
Holy crap on a stick, once again I am blown away by a new blog discovery. Previous mind blowing came from reading Goro, Kotze, CopycatEffect and Wrong Way Wizard
References this one: http://littledynamo.blogspot.com/
Man, I definitely need to get a blog up soon and look into a streaming radio show.

And yeah, what ever happened to Biden? I haven't seen or heard about him in a couple years it seems like. Even Dan Quayle and Al Gore I heard and saw more of. What's he do all day, just mumble to himself in an office?
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8bitagent wrote:Man, I definitely need to get a blog up soon and look into a streaming radio show.
I've been thinking about getting a microphone myself, I think people would like to hear my opinions on youtube in glorious technicolour.
And yeah, what ever happened to Biden? I haven't seen or heard about him in a couple years it seems like. Even Dan Quayle and Al Gore I heard and saw more of. What's he do all day, just mumble to himself in an office?
I think it would be worse if he was more active. Very bad man.
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Stephen Morgan wrote:http://aferrismoon.blogspot.com/2011/05/sin-bin.html
I really enjoyed reading that essay.
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Fantastic thread, Plutonia!

Where has this Rene Girard been all of my life?
Christianity is the myth that reads all myths: …to read mythology right and to have a true anthropology are one and the same thing.
This perfectly sums up a concept that I've been clumsily trying to digest and communicate for a really long time.

Attempting to understand our situation here in this reality without synthesizing science, religion and myth is a useless endeavor, but unfortunately, I feel that the majority of us have paid far too much attention to the barbed wire fences that have been erected between the three.

The big answers, I'm afraid, will always be puzzles assembled from pieces gathered from those three disciplines that we've forever been taught to keep separate.

Again, WOW, just an awesome thread.

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hava1 wrote:I want to share some news -
1. I hit level 48 in Farmville
2. I asked Jeff to remove my account.
3. Wish to thank you for the lovely company during the "dark night of the soul".

The reason I am writing it in this thread, is because it kind of sums it up :wave: Will be lurking to read, and wishing you all a great time here, and happy spring season.

:cheerleader:
But...who's gonna keep Alice honest? Sad to see you go. All the best for now :partyhat
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Bruce Dazzling wrote:Fantastic thread, Plutonia!

Where has this Rene Girard been all of my life?
Christianity is the myth that reads all myths: …to read mythology right and to have a true anthropology are one and the same thing.
This perfectly sums up a concept that I've been clumsily trying to digest and communicate for a really long time.

Attempting to understand our situation here in this reality without synthesizing science, religion and myth is a useless endeavor, but unfortunately, I feel that the majority of us have paid far too much attention to the barbed wire fences that have been erected between the three.

The big answers, I'm afraid, will always be puzzles assembled from pieces gathered from those three disciplines that we've forever been taught to keep separate.

Again, WOW, just an awesome thread.

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