thurnundtaxis wrote:Yeah, 8-bit, I'm kind of baffled by a work of this sort coming from a guy with a background like Mr. Bain's. At first it seems like a lark or an exercise in an extended symbolic metaphor. But apparently he's being rather literal. Either that or he's a deliberate CIA funded disinfo-spewing agent of W.O.O. I'm also intrigued that Peter Levenda would be writing an introduction to a book of this sort since in the past I thought he pretty much bought the straight story on 9/11.
Whatever the case, I 'm certainly glad that there's someone out there like Kris Milligan whose publishing house has been a vanguard purveyor of works which consistently deliver a very interesting and vital historical perspective for the 21st century.
Yeah Trineday is like RI overload(so not surprising Jeff Wells got published with them) Ive seen a number of Trineday books at Barnes and Nobles and other bigger book retailers.
What's curious about Bain's book, least from the chapter online, is that he is well aware and plays with the "new pearl harbor/new american century/neocon" meme regarding 9/11. But instead of a book(like Ronson's) that is a journey through weirdo conspiracy land; he does indeed seem ultimately pretty serious about what he's writing. It looks like he starts the book off with the usual inside job discussions and talks of Dan Brown/Masons/Illuminati, but then leaves that and goes into some really dark waters. I always found the "Illuminati" meme silly conspiratainment pop, safe words for the masses. I notice more serious writers will use words like "black lodge" or "black brotherhood" to denote actual occult links to political events.
Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:52 pm
by 8bitagent
Forgot to add this one:
Anyone remember the "phantom planes"? In 2006 I read that long Vanity Fair article and released NORAD audio tapes.
We all know the "is this real world or exercise?" sentiment at NORAD that day. But what about the phantom blips that existed on NORAD and FAA screens
as false blips? Even the 9/11 commission talks of a "phantom 11". And according to the NORAD tapes, there appeared to be a Flight 93 blip that kept going toward DC even after the 10:15ish crash of the real Flight 93.
Nordic wrote:
I mean if 9/11 is suppose to be an "inside job", why would it be shot down?
Please. You're smarter than that. By that time, the cat was out of the bag, the thing had a life of its own, somebody somewhere who actually wasn't in on the conspiracy knew that plane was heading for the capitol, or NY, and decided to shoot it down. At that point, Cheney, or whothefuckever couldn't AT THAT POINT say "no, don't shoot it down".
Well are the family members who heard the Flight 93 cockpit tapes lying? I just never bought the loose change theory that the voices were fudged.
Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:00 pm
by 8bitagent
I wonder, if in an alternate reality where a replica of the twin towers existed and you could fly a fully loaded passenger jet at roughly the same speed and to the same points that were hit...
if the thing would stand...or begin to bow and buckle. I just cant imagine a big team of hard hats lining up ginormous skyscrapers with all the explosives itd take to bring it down.
Let alone super duper special silent ones, giving the sounds of the collapse do not match what you hear in a controlled demolition.
If I *had* to make a theory about the towers, despite no longer believing much in the CD theory, Id say youd need cutter thermite on certain columns that become triggered by the plane impact and fuel fires. Ive seen more evidence of the Murrah building being rigged, but again nothing surprises me.
An odd instance was in the so called english translation of the 'bin laden confession video', he seems shocked the towers collapsed and wonders where the air defenses were.
Im like "is bin laden a truther too?"
Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:13 pm
by Luther Blissett
82_28 wrote:I always wondered about your name, Blisset. Seeing so many mentions of your handle in those essays, I had to go look it up. It never occurred to me that it meant something.
Without giving away too much personal information, I hope, I did my design thesis on Luther Blissett after the Blissett project had already ended. I was very attracted to their version of anti-fascism targeting Berlusconi throughout the latter half of the 90's and went on to adopt as much of a situationist stance in my work since school, which still influences me.
When I first got here, I got schooled that the LB project had involvement in a European satanic panic hoax. I believe that the founders or perpetrators of that hoax came to regret it, because it's not something that the put into their literature after.
Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:11 am
by elfismiles
Would love to hear more about yours / others Luther Blissett projects - but understand the desire for discretion.
Anywho ... so, the last time 911 fell on a Tuesday was ... 2007?
Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:17 am
by 8bitagent
elfismiles wrote:Would love to hear more about yours / others Luther Blissett projects - but understand the desire for discretion.
Anywho ... so, the last time 911 fell on a Tuesday was ... 2007?
Nary a peer from the media, friend's facebook walls, or the collective consciousness. *whew*
Maybe it's finally done. The working has been worked, the spell has been lifted. The egregore has been gored.
"Nine eleven whatsits? Oh yeah, I vaguely remember that".
Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:53 am
by justdrew
my latest video...
Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:00 am
by Hammer of Los
...
edited
And so it came to pass.
Unfri**in' believable.
We partook not of their terror.
The little Hamster was not afeared!
Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind killer.
Heed the words of the witches.
We sent them back their gift.
They have yet to taste its full flavour.
Remember the Golden Rule.
Also remember;
They reck not what they wreak.
Always hoist by their own petard are they.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:05 pm
by Luther Blissett
I'm experiencing the opposite today, total 9/11 overload. Has this been posted yet? The AE911 PBS doc "Explosive Evidence":
"The 9/11 attacks were a global state terror operation permitted by the administration of the USA, which had foreknowledge of the operation yet remained intentionally unresponsive in order to make war against Afghanistan and Iraq. To put it briefly, the 9/11 events were an instance of the strategy of tension enacted by political and economic powers in the USA to seek advantages for the oil and arms industries.
Italy too was a victim of the “strategia della tensione” of the CIA, enacted in Italy from the time of the Portella della Ginestra massacre in Sicily in 1947 until 1993.
There is much evidence of this strategy, both circumstantial and scientific."
NBC has received widespread backlash over its decision to skip its annual 9/11 moment of silence and instead air an interview with Kardashian matriarch Kris Jenner.
In the past, the struggling network has often observed a moment of silence at 8:46 a.m. to mark the moment that the first plane hit the World Trade Center building on September 11, 2001 in New York City. On Tuesday, however, viewers were stunned to see an interview with Jenner in which the 56-year-old discussed her recent breast implant surgery.
President Barack Obama and the First Lady Michelle Obama led the White House in a moment of silence and Vice President Joe Biden delivered a keynote address at the Flight 93 National Memorial in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
Most major cable networks aired live footage from various memorial services including one in New York City at Ground Zero where the FDNY and Port Authority police gathered. However, NBC opted to air the candid interview with Jenner in which she also discussed the new season on her main E! reality TV show.
Outraged viewers flocked to social networking sites and vowed to boycott NBC for what many perceived to be blatant disrespect towards victims who were killed in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/nbc-b ... HeF8odo.99
Later on MSNBC "terror expert" jerkoff Roger Cresey talked about why Americans should still be worried about al Qaeda terrorism. Even though al Qaeda is quite the boon for Western forces in Syria and elsewhere.
I'm not quite sure what more can be said about the event, 11 years on. It's been exhaustively analyzed from a philosophical, political, even spiritual angle. To me the most interesting stories are one of syncs, odd premonition dreams, and random connected tissues.
Anyways, that "Most Dangerous Book Ever Written", thanks for pointing that one out 82_28. Probably will go down as the most accurate 9/11 interpretation book ever.
Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:42 pm
by 8bitagent
That whole LIHOP/MIHOP stuff still makes my head hurt.
CIA did it. Israel did it. Bush let it happen. Incompetence. Reno Wall.
Shouldn't it be painfully obvious that al Qaeda soldiers are simply drones, wind up toys that come in an ACME box?
Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:29 pm
by 82_28
That's ACME, I think you meant. ACNE boxes are filled with clearasil.
Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:45 pm
by 8bitagent
82_28 wrote:That's ACME, I think you meant. ACNE boxes are filled with clearasil.
Ha, fixed. Tho then again "Islamic jihadists" are the controlled whack a mole zits the black hand provides for their client tentacles.
Before Alex Jones went totally off the deep end, he once quipped in 2002 how "radical muslims come in to provide the pretext for big brother, when in reality
big brother is behind the whole thing". My analogy is that if I were an exterminator, I could secretly let insects into a house. Then await the call for when the tenants complain about bugs. The bugs are real, but I'm controlling them and their flow. Or a sneaky kid starting a whisper campaign to get kids to fight on a playground.
11 years on, I see little evidence Cheney/Rumsfeld/CIA were "engineering" 9/11. If I was a black wizard, hell no would I want any of those fools to even know my early Christmas gift to them was coming. Only to assure myself, they would greatly value my gift to them and really run with the football.
Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:02 pm
by 82_28
One thing I note the date September 11, is that, at least this far north, the Sun begins to become annoying with it's angle. It's this not quite fall and not quite summer feeling and I noted it on the day, the year after 9/11/2001. There's just a feeling in the air, in the glancing sun, that somehow leaves me uneasy. It's like when you first finally realize that it's over kind of Sun. I can't tell whether it's because of 9/11/2001 itself or if maybe the date was chosen, because in the northern hemisphere the Sun could be at a spot in the skies that signals a great shift in psychological meaning to the Circadian Clock. Because unlike other dates and I don't know why, it seems more noticeable than at other times of the year. But just around now and no other other day seems quite like it as far as the solar angle.
