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FourthBase wrote:Let's say a bunch of rotten bullshit-artists are fighting for power. Both sides have a rap sheet of transgressions and lies and black-ops and election-rigging, etc. One side's is far longer and worse than the other's. But, when it comes time to make a power grab by trying to impeach the other side, why bother reaching for a bunch of shit made-up out of thin air, when there'd be ample material that's true to use against your enemies? That is, if the material doesn't harm you or your shadowy allies by uncovering your own pile of rancid shit. Remains to be seen, if there's more than one pile of shit to be discovered here, not just donkey shit but elephant shit, too. I trust Cummings to bring the pachyderm feces up, if there's any to be found. Just like I kind of sort of, yeah, trust Issa in this one narrow temporary context, given his likely goal of undermining the Democratic executive branch, which, what, is there not reason to suspect this current administration of foul play in some places, some actions? Really? The GOPigs tried to bring down Bubba for lying under oath about a hummer. But, would there not have been more authentically-impeachable material to use, had those Repukes wanted to open up some cans of whoopass wormage? Are we supposed to excuse Clinton (and wife) for his corruption just because theoretically he might have been, what, blackmailed sexually or threatened physically for years, or something? That many years? What, he was that powerless to resist? Had to run for president, or else? Twice? He's a fucking slimeball, lol! He was handpicked by many of the same establishment elites who pick every other fucking president. Same with Obama. Dispense with the illusions, folks. There are few good guys who've ever served as one of the 536 elected reps we 250-300 million citizens get to "decide" to decide things on our behalf. The president has not been one of those few since at the very least 1963. Every president since, every year probably, has done some terrible thing worthy of an impeachment trial. This time, one of them might get caught. Do I wish it were Bush being investigated for a future impeachment by Democrats over 9/11. Of course!!! But, I'll take any justice as it comes. And try like hell to make sure Congress is populated by decent honest human beings of any party, for once, via elections.

FourthBase wrote:Let's say a bunch of rotten bullshit-artists are fighting for power. Both sides have a rap sheet of transgressions and lies and black-ops and election-rigging, etc. One side's is far longer and worse than the other's. But, when it comes time to make a power grab by trying to impeach the other side, why bother reaching for a bunch of shit made-up out of thin air, when there'd be ample material that's true to use against your enemies? That is, if the material doesn't harm you or your shadowy allies by uncovering your own pile of rancid shit. Remains to be seen, if there's more than one pile of shit to be discovered here, not just donkey shit but elephant shit, too. I trust Cummings to bring the pachyderm feces up, if there's any to be found. Just like I kind of sort of, yeah, trust Issa in this one narrow temporary context, given his likely goal of undermining the Democratic executive branch, which, what, is there not reason to suspect this current administration of foul play in some places, some actions? Really? The GOPigs tried to bring down Bubba for lying under oath about a hummer. But, would there not have been more authentically-impeachable material to use, had those Repukes wanted to open up some cans of whoopass wormage? Are we supposed to excuse Clinton (and wife) for his corruption just because theoretically he might have been, what, blackmailed sexually or threatened physically for years, or something? That many years? What, he was that powerless to resist? Had to run for president, or else? Twice? He's a fucking slimeball, lol! He was handpicked by many of the same establishment elites who pick every other fucking president. Same with Obama. Dispense with the illusions, folks. There are few good guys who've ever served as one of the 536 elected reps we 250-300 million citizens get to "decide" to decide things on our behalf. The president has not been one of those few since at the very least 1963. Every president since, every year probably, has done some terrible thing worthy of an impeachment trial. This time, one of them might get caught. Do I wish it were Bush being investigated for a future impeachment by Democrats over 9/11. Of course!!! But, I'll take any justice as it comes. And try like hell to make sure Congress is populated by decent honest human beings of any party, for once, via elections.

Canadian_watcher wrote:at the risk of embarrassing myself:

it had to be done. nice post, 4B

Jerky wrote:Wow, man. I think you're SERIOUSLY suffering from some false parity syndrome issues, here. Truth is, Bill Clinton is NOT George W. Bush. In no way, shape or form is he that. Unless you have something substantial that you know about Clinton that you'd like to share with the rest of us?

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FourthBase wrote:Let's say a bunch of rotten bullshit-artists are fighting for power. Both sides have a rap sheet of transgressions and lies and black-ops and election-rigging, etc. One side's is far longer and worse than the other's. But, when it comes time to make a power grab by trying to impeach the other side, why bother reaching for a bunch of shit made-up out of thin air, when there'd be ample material that's true to use against your enemies? That is, if the material doesn't harm you or your shadowy allies by uncovering your own pile of rancid shit. Remains to be seen, if there's more than one pile of shit to be discovered here, not just donkey shit but elephant shit, too. I trust Cummings to bring the pachyderm feces up, if there's any to be found. Just like I kind of sort of, yeah, trust Issa in this one narrow temporary context, given his likely goal of undermining the Democratic executive branch, which, what, is there not reason to suspect this current administration of foul play in some places, some actions? Really? The GOPigs tried to bring down Bubba for lying under oath about a hummer. But, would there not have been more authentically-impeachable material to use, had those Repukes wanted to open up some cans of whoopass wormage? Are we supposed to excuse Clinton (and wife) for his corruption just because theoretically he might have been, what, blackmailed sexually or threatened physically for years, or something? That many years? What, he was that powerless to resist? Had to run for president, or else? Twice? He's a fucking slimeball, lol! He was handpicked by many of the same establishment elites who pick every other fucking president. Same with Obama. Dispense with the illusions, folks. There are few good guys who've ever served as one of the 536 elected reps we 250-300 million citizens get to "decide" to decide things on our behalf. The president has not been one of those few since at the very least 1963. Every president since, every year probably, has done some terrible thing worthy of an impeachment trial. This time, one of them might get caught. Do I wish it were Bush being investigated for a future impeachment by Democrats over 9/11. Of course!!! But, I'll take any justice as it comes. And try like hell to make sure Congress is populated by decent honest human beings of any party, for once, via elections.

seemslikeadream wrote:The Holocaust Hoax Exposed
Victor Thorn ....your esteemed author

FourthBase wrote:I knew there was something huge today when Hicks testified that Mills discouraged him from talking to the Republicans without a lawyer. Others may say, "But that's good advice, Rethugs are scum!" Yeah, I know. They were wrong yesterday. They'll be wrong tomorrow. They were wrong at 9am, they are wrong at 9pm. But, they might have been right today, this afternoon. Elijah Cummings was right, too, don't get me wrong. And yeah, whatever arms-smuggling or torture was happening through that consulate, Stevens and Hicks and that other weepy guy probably have some of its blood on their hands, too. Hell, Hicks might be a neo-Nazi crisis actor intent to bring down a black president, for all I know. But something bad, very bad, happened at Benghazi. When you hear testimony about stand-down orders and jets not flying fast enough...your ears don't perk up? I watched the entire hearing. Just for the record: Saw not one single nose tap thing. This committee, this oversight committee, might be filled with Republican douches, Democratic douches, but maybe these are some of the few douches in Congress with a modicum of integrity. Even (yuck) Issa, the car alarm dude. So fucking annoying and usually wrong. But, what if he can't be totally bought? What if Trey Gowdy doesn't play ball for anyone? Well, at least when he's in the "opposition party", of course. Stephen Lynch is there. He indulges in some nepotism back here, a little, looks like a febrile alcoholic, lol, but I voted for him, and now I'm happy he lost, as he'll represent Southie well by belonging to this committee. Chaffetz's tears might be herpetological, but what happened in Benghazi may yet be something to cry about. It does make a difference. Brace yourselves Democrat-loyalists, because those wingnuts seem to have had half of a point all this time. Benghazi may be bigger than Watergate. Not nearly as big as Iran/Contra or 9/11 or other atrocious scandals, not least of which the financial variety, and maybe Benghazi was just infighting and backstabbing between crooks and craven spooks playing a dirty game, still playing it, but it's still big. Will the world be better off if this helps the Republicans take office? Hell fucking no, lol, the opposite. But. Is there no other way we may vote? There is! Stay tuned!

Alchemy wrote:

seemslikeadream wrote:The Holocaust Hoax Exposed
Victor Thorn ....your esteemed author

Ok definitely not good, my apologies for posting the fucking article, what more would like out of me? Just tell me so the rest of the discussion can continue, I made a mistake, I am sure I am the first one to do it so lets make an example of me.

I will happily delete the fucking article if you want to delete all your responses to it and clean the whole thread of this nonsense, just let me know.

Jerky wrote:"Every president since, every year probably, has done some terrible thing worthy of an impeachment trial."

That parity.

Jerky wrote:Hey now. You're not the first to make a mistake like this. The Conservative Movement (capital C capital M) gets its editorial footsoldiers from some particularly nasty fever swamps. It's not up to you to drain every one of them, but thankfully there are places like this, RigInt, that help us navigate the waters with a little help from our friends.

Jerky

Alchemy wrote:

seemslikeadream wrote:The Holocaust Hoax Exposed
Victor Thorn ....your esteemed author

Ok definitely not good, my apologies for posting the fucking article, what more would like out of me? Just tell me so the rest of the discussion can continue, I made a mistake, I am sure I am the first one to do it so lets make an example of me.

I will happily delete the fucking article if you want to delete all your responses to it and clean the whole thread of this nonsense, just let me know.

Alchemy wrote:

seemslikeadream wrote:The Holocaust Hoax Exposed
Victor Thorn ....your esteemed author

Ok definitely not good, my apologies for posting the fucking article, what more would like out of me? Just tell me so the rest of the discussion can continue, I made a mistake, I am sure I am the first one to do it so lets make an example of me.

I will happily delete the fucking article if you want to delete all your responses to it and clean the whole thread of this nonsense, just let me know.