Our personal experiences of the weird

maggrwaggr · Post by **maggrwaggr** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:00 am

I believe in the infinite. I believe that one of the dimensions of the universe is the dimension of scale, from the tiny to the large, from the nanosecond to the aeon and beyond, in both directions. Yet I believe that infinity ultimately is the same, regardless of what "end" of the spectrum it really is. I can finally get my head around the notion that a sphere is both flat and a sphere (the earth is flat, dontcha know?) I also believe that gravity is the result of "nature abhorring a vacuum" and that what we perceive as matter is actually the exact opposite, and that gravity results from the vacuum created from the accumulation of that-which-is-nothing. These are just things I like to think about. As far as "the supernatural" is concerned, one for-instance is my ability to be somewhat clairvoyant. My clairvoyance is not that helpful, because it works only shortly before an event. But just long enough to save my life sometimes. I am a very tall person, and to me, my particular clairvoyance is analagous to being tall -- i.e. I can see things coming before everybody else. I don't know how else to describe it. Sometimes it's just a few seconds before other people, sometimes it's an hour or more. The longer away it is, the more symbolic and "visionary" is the clairvoyant experience. In other words, I'll have a weird vision, out of the blue, that will be the end result of something that hasn't happened yet IF I don't take actions to stop it. For instance one time I had to drive across town to deliver a document and at one point I looked down and saw the document crumpled and covered in blood. This freaked me out, of course, and I thought it meant I'd better be damn careful on my way to deliver it. Nothing happened on the way there, so I relaxed, but then on the way BACK I was pulling onto the highway just as an eighteen-wheeler blew out a tire and came wheeling over to the curb and I was right in his path. I narrowly avoided being absolutely crushed by him. So sometimes the clairvoyance isn't that helpful. Another time I was in a helicopter and knew something really bad was about to happen right before it did -- we hit a telephone line. I should be dead from that, but it was pure luck (or maybe it wasn't my time yet) that none of us were killed. And I KNEW and was just about to shout something to the pilot, the words were actually formed in my mouth, when he suddenly saw the line in front of him and tried to avoid it. At any rate, read the book "Hyperspace" if you really want to have some real mind trips. Maybe you already have. It's written by a physicist and addresses much of what we call "supernatural" in terms of the reality of a multidimensional universe (multidimensional meaning 10 or 26 dimensions).

GDN01 · Post by **GDN01** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:31 am

Maggr - I know what you mean about knowing something right before it happens. It is different than a hunch. It is different than an educated guess. It is a knowing that hits you in the gut. It is all together different than knowledge. It is KNOWING. And it is impossible to explain to people. And it is impossible to prove, unless you tell someone before. I KNEW there was going to be a plane crash the night the flight from Columbia to NYC crashed back in '89. I didn't know which flight - but I was washing dishes and my husband at the time had boarded a plane out of Houston, headed to NY, a few hours earlier. I suddenly knew there was going to be a plane wreck, and I didn't know his flight #, and my KNOWING was that when they announced the plane crash on the TV, I would have no idea if it was his flight or not. Within 20 minutes, there was a break in regular broadcast to annouce a plane crash of a flight landing in NY. It was nearly 30 minutes before they confirmed the flight # and where the plane had come from. It was a very long 30 minutes for me. The one time this sense was helpful was when I KNEW this man was abusing his daughter. He was highly respected and appeared to all like the most loving father. I told two of my closest friends, "Do not let your children go to his house, or go anywhere with him alone." They told me I was nuts and I responded, "Don't be surprised when you read in the newspaper he's charged with sexually molesting his daughter." 6 weeks later he was arrested. And another "weird" experience occurred as he was being investigated. I had spoken to the prosecuting attorney because I was on a list of people who had "suspicions". I was never called to testify because all I could say was, "I KNEW". But I was put on the potential witness list, against him. In the early morning hours the day the prosecutor's witnesses were supposed to take the stand, I woke up at 4 a.m., on the dot, in a cold sweat, and KNEW someone was in my room, and I knew it was the father. And he was trying to search my mind to see what I KNEW. It was the one time I felt like I was in a psychic battle with someone who knew I knew and I was trying to fight him out of my mind. Very Scary. I didn't sleep after that, and my best friend called first thing in the morning, who was also on the prosecutor's witness list, and said, "The weirdest thing happened this morning. I woke up at 4 a.m. and had the distinct feeling that someone was in my room watching me, and that it was the father." We were both freaked out! It is hard to describe how these things happen. But they do happen.

Sweejak · Post by **Sweejak** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:33 am

I'm not sure what I mean either but yes. Basically I'm thinking of string theory, and gravity as separating dimensions from each other. Also a little bit of what I can remember of the popular film 'What the Bleep Do We Know' which I'm told had a number of misrepresentations. I don't claim to understand it but I'm also thinking of an experiment done which shows evidence of an object... or maybe it was light, existing in two places at once and the idea was brought out that maybe you were just looking at the same object from different dimensions. The analogy was given of looking at a fish in a fish tank and seeing it from both the front and side simultaneously. Not really two objects. I forgot the name of the experiment which was done on a subatomic scale and I was wondering if you could scale that experience up to our normal scale. So, this is the sort of stuff I meant by "metaphysical physics". Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sweejak@rigorousintuition>Sweejak</A> at: 8/9/05 1:34 am

maggrwaggr · Post by **maggrwaggr** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:25 am

but I am blown away by the one that shows that observing an object affects the object. This was proven, somehow, with subatomic particles. Our minds actually do affect reality.

maggrwaggr · Post by **maggrwaggr** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:28 am

that's some creepy stuff you relay. The way those clairvoyant things are for me is that they come to me from "the outside" as opposed to "the inside". That's how I can tell they're real. All the neurotic fears, worries, hopes, etc., come from inside my head. The honest-to-god clairvoyant things come from, it seems, literally outside my being. Which is, I suppose, why I can't control the thing. I could only control it with my mind, I guess, but it exists outside of my mind and body, or at least that's what it feels like. It's really weird and sometimes can really freak me out. I've found that meditation is a way to get in touch with it very powerfully, almost, sometimes, to a point where it's more than I can deal with. I'm tired tonight, not up for writing much more. Sorry, this is a good conversation and I'd like to keep it going

Sweejak · Post by **Sweejak** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:14 am

I think it may be the same experiment, related anyway. I remember now, it was called the Two Slit experiment. The only time I have had an inkling or what you guys are talking about is when I'm painting. That feels like it comes from without, I suppose it's more like a meditation though.

Sokolova · Post by **Sokolova** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:12 am

Just bumping this up so it doesn't get lost. Anyone else have abny personal expreicnes to share? Ellie

sw · Post by sw » Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:16 pm

GDN01 · Post by **GDN01** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:51 am

I think it's time to call in Ghost Busters or something! Seriously - today I missed a work meeting because of her. I was supposed to be somewhere at 9 a.m. Got up and was ready to go and my keys were missing. This is actually the second set of keys to go missing in the past 5 days. The other set was my office keys - missing 3 days then found under my daughter's car in the driveway. So this morning, I looked everywhere in my bedroom where they should have been with my purse. And in the process realized my shoes were missing, too. I turned everything upside down, looked any and everywhere. Took all the bed sheets off and looked IN my bed. After an hour of looking I was fed up and announced "I NEED MY KEYS AND SHOES NOW." Then I sat at my computer for about 30 minutes and did email since I couldn't make the meeting. Got up, picked up the blanket on my bed which I had shaken out earlier - and there in the blanket were both my keys and my shoes. There is no way I slept with my shoes and my keys in my bed. And there is no way that they somehow were not seen there when I took the sheets off and looked in my bed earlier that morning. They fell right out of the blanket I had rolled up to get out of the way. Believe me - At times, I think I am as crazy as you probably think I am. I knew as soon as I couldn't find my keys where I had left them that it was my ghost up to her tricks. And I can't very well tell anyone at work - sorry I missed the meeting because a ghost took my keys! If it had been JUST my keys, I would consider the possibility they had fallen out of my purse or something. But I would have seen and felt the shoes in my bed! Anyone have advice here??

Dreams End · Post by **Dreams End** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:29 pm

Advice? Nothing you can do...but how about this: What if you avoided a car wreck by not leaving at the appointed time? Maybe they did you a favor!

ekstasis23 · Post by **ekstasis23** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:19 pm

I have two experiences that have really meant a lot to me. One was about 6 years ago. The brother (who I'll call Mi) of a longtime friend of mine (who I'll call Ma) had died suddenly and accidentally at the age of 13. I was working as a teller at a local bank at the time, and my friend was in the military, and had to come back to town for the funeral. At the time this happened, I didn't know when he would return, or if I would see him at all besides at the funeral. During a busy day at work, I glanced up to scan the lobby and saw -out of the corner of my eye- a child who looked to be about 7 years old, duck behind one of the counters where people would fill out their deposit slips. What struck me was how much the child looked like Mi, who I best remembered as being a wild, rambunctious 7 year old who would pester me and Ma whenever we would get together. Curious, but still busy, I dove back into my work. No more than a minute later, Ma walked through the doors of the bank lobby and up to my workstation to greet me. He had just gotten into town that morning. I looked past him into the lobby, trying to find the little boy who was a look-alike of Ma's very recently deceased brother, but there were no children anywhere. The only people in the lobby were a few elderly folks, none of them anywhere near the right age to be the parents of a young child. I feel like I saw some sort of ghost of Mi; acting as playful as ever, and showing himself right before his brother came to visit me. * * * * * The other incident took place a few days after my wife's grandfather had died. We were lying in bed together late at night talking about death and the many possible things that come after death. It was a warm summer night, and we had the windows open. It was also a clear night, with no clouds and nearly-full moon. As we talked, three things happened all at once. - The alarm clock on our nightstand lost power momentarily, and then came back flashing "2:30...2:30...2:30" over and over again. A later check of the house showed that now other clocks or appliances had been affected, which seems to rule out a power surge or brief outage to the entire house - There was a loud sound outside, almost like a thunderclap. - There was a bright flash, as from a bolt of lightning. My wife's grandfather had died at 2:20 AM just days before. Our alarm clock was always set ahead 10 minutes, so we'd have extra time on weekday mornings. We took this as a clear communication from her grandfather. It was an amazing moment.

Sokolova · Post by **Sokolova** » Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:59 am

At 3.20 am, BST (UK time), my bedside phone rang. A distant, Asian-accented male voice said: "This is Mr Atkins, from the pet shop, do you want the guinea pig we have put by for you". I said "pardon me?" And he repeated it very calmly and politely, but with a slight edge of impatience as if I really ought to know what he was talking about. I then asked if he knew what time it was. He said "I don't have access to the time." I asked "where are you calling from?" With even more impatience he gave the name of the town I live in, which I suspect was a lie, given the poor and distant quality of the connection. At this point I lost patience, being foggy with sleep, and put the phone down. Needless to say, I am not awaiting the delivery of a guinea-pig. This morning I would have thought it was a dream, but for the fact that my husband remembered it too, and the phone had registered a call at 3.20 AM, with the caller withholding his number. It was probably just a dumb prank. I'm almost totally sure it was just a prank. But thing is, for the past few months we have been getting numerous calls (sometimes five a day) from people with exactly the same indefinite Asian accent, and exactly the same odd distant-sounding connection, like old time collect calls used to sound. They talk very stiltedly and sometimes take ages to get round to saying what they want. Mostly we hang up before they do, but sometimes they claim to represent obscure phone companies or similar. I didn't give it much thought until now and have always assumed the persistent Asian accent to be explained by telesales companies employing people from poorer nations to keep down their wage bills. Am I right about that? Would such guys be likely to pull such a stunt during work hours? Anyone know? Ellie

RollickHooper · Post by **RollickHooper** » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:19 pm

A recent post of mine on a different thread on this board seems to have been edited, and not by me. I have since deleted the post, and now it says, "Edited by RollickHooper" but it didn't, before. I was, in effect, censored; I do hope someone can explain this to me.

proldic · Post by **proldic** » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:24 pm

I'd like to get to the bottom of what is going on here, because shit is happening, and it's either Jeff or EZ Board (or ?) with the capability to do it. Reminder that a query I made about a missing/f'd-up post went unanswered for quite awhile before someone posted on top of it. Maybe it's for our own good?

Dreams End · Post by **Dreams End** » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:30 pm

To Ellie, Five calls a day? It's surely more than a prank. I don't know what your "real life" is like, but somebody is messing with you. What are the other calls like...what are they asking for? I can't really think of any reason somebody would do this, but it doesn't sound random, to me. In the event that you are rather politically active, I will say this. It is possible to use phones (they have to be landlines) as a listening device. The agent will call and will do something that keeps the phone from "hanging up" and allowing it to be used as a listening device. If you should use the phone, they'd have to repeat the process. given the state of technology these days, this seems rather an improbable scenario, as there are so many easier options...but not from Asia, perhaps. I don't want to make you paranoid, but if you are involved in anything that governments or other individuals might want to monitor, it's worth a passing thought, anyway. To Rollickhooper: Jeff doesn't censor and no one else will have your password. If you included threats of violence or something, (which I'm sure you didn't) he would censor that, but he'd leave the post and add "censored by Rigorous Intuition." He'd also communicate with you the reasons. It was probably an EZ board fluke. IF it's anything more sinister than that, it likely will not have been done by anyone actually on this board.

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