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Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:33 am
by 82_28
To some it actually is a big deal. I grew up around a burgeoning skinhead and KKK movement in Denver which I obviously rejected. But is still a thing as they say. I don't mind one thing that AD posts because it allows me to keep tabs on what I would have missed since I do not seek it out.

It is always good to keep tabs on this shit because it does exist.

Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:34 am
by jakell
The brave AD plods steadily onwards regardless of the extreme indifference he faces 95% of the time, only when challenged does he receive any support. In view of this maybe this should happen more often.

I would like to claim a modicum of acknowledgement as someone who works against this indifference. Providing a counterpoint to expressed personal views is not too hard, but doing this against a vacuum takes a fair bit of thought and imagination.

Re: Masculinities of neurotic projections

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:45 am
by Sounder
Can we please have a moratorium on giving AD shit?
Uh no, because the following is the truth of the matter, thanks Karmamatterz.
So ya, continue copy/pasta galore about simpleton individual right wing nutters who:

Do not command policy on trade of national economies
Do not command standing armies//navies/air corp
Do not make foreign policy
Do not sign legislation or veto it
Do not run enormous global corporations
Cannot command the press to broadcast a speech across all networks
Etc etc....
Anybody that is 'in the struggle' will resist the propaganda that depends on emotive signaling to distract the audience from issues that matter into circle-jerk self-righteous grooming.

But as has been said before, AD will not stop because his shit works.

As long as the struggle is all form and no substance, AD wins. Hussa.

Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:21 am
by 82_28
Alright, well I gave it a shot. There is a valued member here that knows him irl and says he is just fine. I just don't see the harm in letting people do what they do as long as it's not racist, sexist and all of the other things that are forbidden and stuff.

Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:18 pm
by American Dream
Misogynist Division: The Far Right & Violence Against Women

Well, it’s our 200th post and we were saving it for something useful. Our list of far right sex offenders has had nearly 6k hits so far but not only is the far right infested with nonces, there are also dozens of fascists who have physically attacked women, threatened sexual violence upon women, and carried out intimidation campaigns against women who live with children. The far right are also well known for domestic violence and many have been arrested and/or convicted of spousal abuse, including Tommy Robinson, Shane ‘Diddyfiddler’ Calvert and Shaun ‘Fatmess’ Jones. We will be updating this last with depressing regularity and keep you informed. Mal.

Shaun Jones, NWI/HMP, domestic abuse and boasted that beating his wife was his “party trick.”

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/insi ... ailed-4882

The Piss Poor Pie & Mash member Fatty Marsh attacked a woman. Full story here:

https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2015/ ... ourt-case/

Tommy Robinson, exBNP, exEDL, exBritish Freedom, exQuilliam, soon to be exPegida UK, battered his fiance:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12 ... 47794.html

Shane ‘Diddyfiddler’ Calvert jailed for assaulting pregnant girlfriend:

https://liveraf.wordpress.com/2012/05/2 ... -arrested/

Law abiding patriot Chris Jones, EDL, BAAI, wishes that a woman ‘gets stabbed to death.’ Wait in line, Ladies! He’s a charmer.
Continues at: https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2016/ ... nst-women/

Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:35 pm
by American Dream
There is some cross-over appeal, too:



Cory Bernardi defends linking to article by 'neo-masculinist' Roosh V
“Social justice warriors,” Valizadeh writes, “believe in an extreme left-wing ideology that combines feminism, progressivism and political correctness into a totalitarian system that attempts to censor speech and promote fringe lifestyles while actively discriminating against men, particularly white men. They are the internet activist arm of Western progressivism that acts as a vigilante group to ensure compliance and homogeny of far left thought.”

He goes on to write that social justice warriors, shortened to “SJWs”, aim to curtail free speech, particularly the speech of white heterosexual men. “Those who are high up on the privilege hierarchy (white men) have to speak through a careful filter if they don’t want to be subject to an SJW attack,” the piece warns.

He laments that people considered to be less privileged can get away with saying things that a powerful white man cannot and suggests that people who belong to this group “mixes and matches” their gender and sexual identity “to seek approval”.

He then questions why any white straight men would join in this criticism of other white straight men (“Most of these men are shy with confidence and low muscle mass,” Valizadeh notes) and concludes that it is “not a stretch” to predict that social justice warriors will turn violent and, eventually, be classed as terrorists by the FBI.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-ne ... st-roosh-v

Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:31 pm
by Sounder
82-28 wrote...
Alright, well I gave it a shot. There is a valued member here that knows him irl and says he is just fine.
I assume that AD is a fine person. I know many fine people, people that I love very much, who are also caught up in various and sundry ways of supporting the system while claiming to be fighting the system. People are complex like that, we both fight and support the system.

Still good people, but good people have been wrong about a lot of stuff, if this messed up expression of a World is any indicator.
I just don't see the harm in letting people do what they do as long as it's not racist, sexist and all of the other things that are forbidden and stuff.
I agree, still recognize that there are propaganda scripts designed for most all sub-groups. And they are easy to propagate because we all want to feel better about ourselves, on our own terms.

Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:25 pm
by backtoiam
American Dream wrote:

“Social justice warriors,” Valizadeh writes, “believe in an extreme left-wing ideology that combines feminism, progressivism and political correctness into a totalitarian system that attempts to censor speech and promote fringe lifestyles while actively discriminating against men, particularly white men. They are the internet activist arm of Western progressivism that acts as a vigilante group to ensure compliance and homogeny of far left thought.”

He goes on to write that social justice warriors, shortened to “SJWs”, aim to curtail free speech, particularly the speech of white heterosexual men. “Those who are high up on the privilege hierarchy (white men) have to speak through a careful filter if they don’t want to be subject to an SJW attack,” the piece warns.
82_28
I just don't see the harm in letting people do what they do as long as it's not racist, sexist and all of the other things that are forbidden and stuff.
"social justice warriors", glad I don't know any. What is your threshold for racism 82? I'm damn glad these "social justice warriors" are AD's buddies and not mine. We need to start posting all these videos of these "social justice warriors" spitting in peoples faces, intentionally physically getting in other peoples way and then screaming racist shit at the top of their lungs "don't touch me, don't touch me, don't touch me"....I'm starting to think they should be called Moronials instead of milleneals. This smiling young "lady of color" was smiling and willingly giving an interview until she was "saved" by this polite social justice warrior.



https://youtu.be/5HK1hFUD_d4

Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:43 pm
by backtoiam
More great social justice. We haven't even made it to the "Bernie Bro" vids yet either but we can and they are on the internet in scads and plethora. Great viewing as a study in social justice.

This moron doesn't even know the swastika was on this earth 5000 years before Hitler. I have a great article that traces the history of the swastika back to practically every religion on the planet including the Budda worshippers. :wallhead:



https://youtu.be/vWXZVgvSps4

American Dream:
“Social justice warriors,” Valizadeh writes, “believe in an extreme left-wing ideology that combines feminism, progressivism and political correctness into a totalitarian system that attempts to censor speech and promote fringe lifestyles while actively discriminating against men, particularly white men. They are the internet activist arm of Western progressivism that acts as a vigilante group to ensure compliance and homogeny of far left thought.”

He goes on to write that social justice warriors, shortened to “SJWs”, aim to curtail free speech, particularly the speech of white heterosexual men. “Those who are high up on the privilege hierarchy (white men) have to speak through a careful filter if they don’t want to be subject to an SJW attack,” the piece warns.


Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:17 pm
by 82_28
backtoiam, my threshold is this.

1: AD ain't been suspended or banned yet and Mr. Rex runs a pretty tight ship.

2: I'll make up my own mind.

3: AD may be a one trick pony but I have yet to see anything at all patently offensive.

4: It is always good to accept any and all without judgement and if you have to judge do so with kindness not ridicule.

Those are my "thresholds". It really is no big deal. It's not like we are poisoning each other's minds here. It's just discussion.

Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:26 pm
by backtoiam
1: AD ain't been suspended or banned yet and Mr. Rex runs a pretty tight ship.
About a month ago...guess you missed it, not that it matters to the subject material.

Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:57 pm
by American Dream
This place should not be used in any way to organize for the bigoted agenda of the far right, which has long been the agreement around here anyway.

Critiques of racists, misogynists, homophobes and others of that ilk are consonant with the principles of this board, and there are good reasons why.

Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:23 pm
by Harvey
AD, in my view, you keep us honest. Your copy and paste period did you a disservice but when you step out front to make an argument you do it very well.

Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:57 pm
by backtoiam
AD, in my view, you keep us honest. Your copy and paste period did you a disservice but when you step out front to make an argument you do it very well.
I must have missed the "argument"

Re: Masculinities of the far right

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:27 am
by 82_28
Sorry to have even brought something personal to another member up.