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Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:17 am
by 8bitagent
Anyone else catch Dave Chapelle hosting SNL? Sadly minus Alex Baldwin...but that monologue felt unreal



Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:20 pm
by JackRiddler
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“The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.” @realDonaldTrump, 6 November 2012

"We can’t let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!"
@realDonaldTrump, 7 November 2012

CBS News: "In several tweets he later deleted, Trump wondered how Obama won even though Republican nominee Mitt Romney had more votes (though in the end, Obama won the popular vote as well)." Note: Not "in the end" - Obama was clearly ahead in popular vote and electoral votes on election night.

“He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election,” Trump tweeted. “We should have a revolution in this country!”

Story:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trum ... weetstorm/

Screen shot including deleted messages on Twitter from 2012:
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intel ... 0.h473.jpg

First Twitter message above:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 6504494082

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Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:32 pm
by mentalgongfu2
Hey Jack, go ahead and post that in a few dozen more threads please. I missed it the first 17 times.

Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:34 pm
by JackRiddler
It's relevant to all election threads, and I didn't cause this proliferation alone.

Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:10 am
by 8bitagent
this young liberal girl explains why the yuppy liberals who loved Obama and angry Clinton lost
should screw themselves



and another young progressive saying the same thing against these precious snowflake SJWs

Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:12 am
by semper occultus
....so basically you've been perving over foxy looking chicks on You Tube...

..hey that's fine - a whole lot of mind bleach required to cleanse the mental palette after the last 18 months...

Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:44 am
by Iamwhomiam
8bit, do you think the RI member audience would watch videos like those, I mean, would we seek them out to share as though they had some inherent value or revealed some hidden wisdom?

I find it rather astounding anyone would post such trite tripe here.

Btw, the first is not a "Liberal,"nor is the second a "Progressive."

How about you telling us in your own words how you really feel?

Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:35 pm
by Searcher08
Iamwhomiam » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:44 pm wrote:8bit, do you think the RI member audience would watch videos like those, I mean, would we seek them out to share as though they had some inherent value or revealed some hidden wisdom?

I find it rather astounding anyone would post such trite tripe here.

Btw, the first is not a "Liberal,"nor is the second a "Progressive."

How about you telling us in your own words how you really feel?
They represent examples of generally young (20s - 30s) people who are atheist, rationalist, anti-intersectional feminist, anti-SJW, pro freedom of speech. Their vids are often caustically funny, entertaining and challenging in their own way to the worst excesses of the liberal and progressive echo chamber. Pointing out hypocrisy and contradictions. Throwing cream pies.
Good for them.
A lot of the reaction regarding Hilary's failure to win has been to avoid any form of looking at itself, to shame and hector various constituencies such as "white women", to suddenly declare the electoral process fuxored and demanding a re-run. It comes across just like the mountain of butthurt that ensued after Brexit. No questioning of assumptions or self-reflection - just "everyone else is wrong except us - and if you disagree you are a stupid wrong racist homophobic xenophobe".

Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:14 pm
by Belligerent Savant
Searcher08 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:35 am wrote:
Iamwhomiam » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:44 pm wrote:8bit, do you think the RI member audience would watch videos like those, I mean, would we seek them out to share as though they had some inherent value or revealed some hidden wisdom?

I find it rather astounding anyone would post such trite tripe here.

Btw, the first is not a "Liberal,"nor is the second a "Progressive."

How about you telling us in your own words how you really feel?
They represent examples of generally young (20s - 30s) people who are atheist, rationalist, anti-intersectional feminist, anti-SJW, pro freedom of speech. Their vids are often caustically funny, entertaining and challenging in their own way to the worst excesses of the liberal and progressive echo chamber. Pointing out hypocrisy and contradictions. Throwing cream pies.
Good for them.
A lot of the reaction regarding Hilary's failure to win has been to avoid any form of looking at itself, to shame and hector various constituencies such as "white women", to suddenly declare the electoral process fuxored and demanding a re-run. It comes across just like the mountain of butthurt that ensued after Brexit. No questioning of assumptions or self-reflection - just "everyone else is wrong except us - and if you disagree you are a stupid wrong racist homophobic xenophobe".
Nail. On. Head.

Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:26 pm
by seemslikeadream
Clinton won the popular vote by more than any other presidential candidate ever.......except for the black guy

Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:31 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
seemslikeadream » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:26 pm wrote:Clinton won the popular vote by more than any other presidential candidate ever.......except for the black guy
That's just a function of population growth, though.

It's a big total because it's a big country that's getting bigger. As a proportional percentage, things would stack up quite differently.

Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:32 pm
by seemslikeadream
so she didn't win more votes than the Con Man?

what ever she won more votes...more people voted for her period


At least four million votes are yet to be counted California.


Popular Vote Latest Count: Hillary Clinton Could Win By 2 Million Votes Over President-Elect Donald Trump

http://www.ibtimes.com/popular-vote-lat ... nt-2445684



Trump, speaking with his wife and children on “60 Minutes” Sunday night, chatted with interviewer Lesley Stahl about tweets he wrote during the campaign that claimed the electoral college is a “disaster for democracy”

Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:33 pm
by Luther Blissett
California has the 49th-highest voting power. If the Electoral College were fair, they'd have something like 194 votes.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... tates.html

Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:27 pm
by The Consul
I think it is interesting how at every rally Trump was screaming the whole system is rigged and the election is fixed. And the media, incuding polling organizations, why they were fixed, too. But there he was, talking to that little fuckwad Stepanopolous, predicting almost exactly how the states would go.
Gee, maybe Cheeto Hitler wasn’t lying after all. http://www.gregpalast.com/

Crosscheck in action:
Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922

Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824

Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393

http://www.gregpalast.com/

Re: 2016 Election Day Night

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:19 pm
by Freitag
Luther Blissett » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:33 am wrote:California has the 49th-highest voting power. If the Electoral College were fair, they'd have something like 194 votes.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... tates.html
I'm not sure how "fair" that would be. Low population states would never have their interests represented. Candidates would probably never even visit them. The 50 states are the building blocks of our federalist union, not individual Americans. States' power is weighted for population but it can't be directly proportional, or it would completely exclude low population states from being represented.

On the other hand, as a conservative Californian, it would be nice to feel like my vote counted for once.