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elfismiles » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:11 pm wrote:So ... ??????


In an audio recording provided to Big League Politics by a source that currently wishes to remain anonymous, journalist Seymour Hersh confirms that Seth Rich had contacted WikiLeaks with sample emails from the leak. Hersh cites an FBI document as proof for his claim.

“There are no DNC or Podesta emails that exist beyond May 21 or 22, last email from either one of those groups. What the report says is that some time in late Spring… he makes contact with WikiLeaks, that’s in his computer,” he says. “Anyway, they found what he had done is that he had submitted a series of documents — of emails, of juicy emails, from the DNC.”

Hersh explains that it was unclear how the negotiations went, but that WikiLeaks did obtain access to a password protected DropBox where Rich had put the files.

“All I know is that he offered a sample, an extensive sample, I’m sure dozens of emails, and said ‘I want money.’ Later, WikiLeaks did get the password, he had a DropBox, a protected DropBox,” he said. They got access to the DropBox.”

Hersh also states that Rich had concerns about something happening to him, and had

“The word was passed, according to the NSA report, he also shared this DropBox with a couple of friends, so that ‘if anything happens to me it’s not going to solve your problems,’” he added. “WikiLeaks got access before he was killed.”

Blue » 02 Aug 2017 11:51 wrote:
How does Hersh have access to FBI documents? Has he posted that doc somewhere?

From what I have read about Seth, that doesn't sound like him to say "I want money." After all, he had recently accepted a new job with Hillary's campaign and was moving up in his political career. In fact he was on the phone for hours with his girlfriend and family right before he was murdered discussing his upcoming move to NYC and how that would affect their relationships. Not exactly someone on the verge of making a huge expose, ready to take the money and run.

Why have none of his friends come forward with the DropBox info? Where did Hersh get that info? Does the NSA regularly talk to Hersh?

elfismiles » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:16 pm wrote:All good questions ... all we know is that Hersh (if that's even really him in the recording) alleges to have contacts in the FBI/NSA who will leak him info.

Agreed, wanting money doesn't sound like what little we know about Seth but ... wtf do we really "KNOW" about any of this?

Blue » 02 Aug 2017 11:51 wrote:
How does Hersh have access to FBI documents? Has he posted that doc somewhere?

From what I have read about Seth, that doesn't sound like him to say "I want money." After all, he had recently accepted a new job with Hillary's campaign and was moving up in his political career. In fact he was on the phone for hours with his girlfriend and family right before he was murdered discussing his upcoming move to NYC and how that would affect their relationships. Not exactly someone on the verge of making a huge expose, ready to take the money and run.

Why have none of his friends come forward with the DropBox info? Where did Hersh get that info? Does the NSA regularly talk to Hersh?

Agreed, wanting money doesn't sound like what little we know about Seth but ... wtf do we really "KNOW" about any of this?

I'm a little concerned about the idea of "what we know of Seth" given that his parents, IIRC, seem to have been so vested in preserving his image based on their own predilection that leaking/whistleblowing is dishonorable.

Jerky » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:22 am wrote:Just by way of quick drive-by explanation, Hersh says that the recording in question takes him entirely out of context, and that he was describing the current state of the conspiracy theory / gossip, as it stands, and NOT describing reality as he saw it. I believe his exact words re: how this recording is being used were something to the effect of "They add 2 and 2 and get 47".

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mentalgongfu2 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:15 am wrote:Elvis, can we look at this another way - beyond the known facts that Rich worked for the DNC and was killed in a still-unsolved murder, what actual evidence is there that he WAS the leaker?

(Beyond the speculation and implications of the politically motivated)

the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.

And Butowsky lays out a different mission than aiding the Rich family. Butowsky says he became convinced that the FBI had a report concluding that Seth Rich's laptop showed he had had contacts with WikiLeaks after speaking to the legendary reporter Seymour Hersh, who was also investigating Rich's death. According to the transcripts in the lawsuit, Butowsky says Hersh had an FBI source who confirmed the report.

In an interview this week, Hersh sounds unconvinced.

"I hear gossip," Hersh tells NPR on Monday.

mentalgongfu2 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:49 am wrote:That seems like a fair general definition. I would only add that the individual facts that make up the body should be judged each on their own merits. I look forward to you having time to reply.

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