What is #Pizzagate?
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?
I talked to a very old friend on Christmas eve and learned that a longtime friend of his and mutual acquaintance of mine has been harassed aggressively online over the past few weeks simply because his band played at CPP once. This is bullshit and it's frightening.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Actually, not total BS, because Breitbart and Fox started the fucking problem by really (in reality) blaming the family for the cancellation of the pageant.Searcher08 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:27 am wrote:This was all total BSLuther Blissett » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:44 pm wrote:A local Jewish family fled their home out of fear of reprisals after Brietbart reported that they were responsible for the local elementary school canceling their Christmas play (they were not, but their child was bullied for opting out of participating).
The family specifically cited the Comet Ping Pong shooting as the reason why they were fleeing.
I never thought I would be quoting the ADLbut...
According to Breitbart, the story was run as an established fact by PennLive, The Philadelphia Inquirer, Mediaite, Slate, Crooks and Liars, Raw Story, Media Matters, TalkingPointsMemo, The Daily Beast, The Huffington Post, and the Forward.ADL Calls Reports of Family Fleeing Lancaster County, PA "Untrue and Damaging"
Philadelphia, PA, December 22, 2016 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), like many, read many numerous local and national news stories reporting that a Jewish family allegedly “fled” Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. The reports claimed that the family feared retribution after being wrongfully blamed for the cancellation of the school production of A Christmas Carol. ADL investigated, and found that in actuality, the family left on vacation for winter break.
“News reports alleging that a Jewish family has ‘fled’ Lancaster County are untrue and damaging,” said Nancy Baron-Baer, ADL Regional Director. “We spoke with the family, who explained that they went on a previously-planned vacation for the holidays. Stories like this can sow fear in the Jewish community and beyond, and it is important to stop the spread of misinformation.
“There is no truth to the rumor that the school cancelled A Christmas Carol at the request of parents. The Hempfield School District released a FAQ clearly stating that the play was cancelled due to the inordinate amount of class time taken up by rehearsals. We commend the district for setting the record straight.”
What do you make of weaving in Comet Ping Pong? Funny that...
Some people (not you, Luther) are spinning "#Pizzagate as hate speech"
It even seems to have arrived on this very thread.
Philadelphia Inquirer essentially updated the story to note the problem with the term "fled." They left early for a pre-planned vacation. One could still say "fled."
The quote from the Lancaster reporter, attributed to the father, is still real as far as I can tell. What I make of weaving in Comet Ping Pong is that the father really did that, because Breitbart and Fox contributed to the family having their lives threatened.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Yeah, the more I think about it the more I think something's off. Why did George Webb, out of the blue, decide to do an entire series on a man who may or may not be missing. Some speculate Braverman's in protective custody getting ready to bring the Clinton Foundation down; some think he's dead, while others think he's hiding, yet, as you said, there is no proof of anything. Nothing "official"Wombaticus Rex » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:12 pm wrote:What evidence is there that Eric Braverman is even missing, though? Just because he stopped using Twitter?
He currenty lectures at Yale:
http://som.yale.edu/eric-braverman
https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-braverman-85b7184
Hit him up: eric.braverman@yale.edu
I sometimes wonder if the Clinton Foundation, like Tammany Hall, will be exposed and some prosecuted in order to give the impression that everything's cleaned up, as if the CF is the root and fountain of all the corruption. Of course, it will be Trump who will appear to cures the government of the infectious rot that is the CF, when, in reality, he's doing nothing more than attempting to cure cancer with a band-aid.
Anyway, my biggest fear is that they will make Trump a "hero".
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Yep - same thing here in AJ's stomping grounds...liminalOyster » 26 Dec 2016 20:58 wrote:I talked to a very old friend on Christmas eve and learned that a longtime friend of his and mutual acquaintance of mine has been harassed aggressively online over the past few weeks simply because his band played at CPP once. This is bullshit and it's frightening.
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Pizzagate conspiracy trolls harass Austin restaurant | KEYE
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APD questioning person of interest about threats to local pizza business
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East Side Pies Giving Back in Response to 'Pizzagate' Threats
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The Absurd 'Pizzagate' Conspiracy Theory Has Spread to New York and Austin
Roberta's and East Side Pies are the latest targets
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Saw this weeks ago elsewhere and it reminded me of old-school RI list of oddities.
PizzaGate Raid Anomalies
Coincidence?
- I find it odd the gunman, Edgar Madison Welch was an actor.
- I find it odd that the gunman's dad, Harry Welch Jr, was a former cop and firearms expert and a former actor and writer.
- I find it odd that his dad was the executive director for "Protect-A-Child" which is an organization to prevent the abuse and abduction of children.
-I find it odd the gunman's dad worked across the street from the pizza place at "Beyond Borders" an organization to prevent child slavery in Haiti.
- I find it odd that "Beyond Borders" is funded by the Clinton Foundation.
- I find it odd that the gunman and his dad both lived in Haiti.
- I find it odd the yellow police tape was put up outside the pizza place BEFORE the guy surrendered himself.
- I find it odd the traffic cameras were repositioned a day before the gunman entered the pizza place.
- I find it odd the gunman wasn't arrested by police in October when his car hit a 13 year old and almost killed the kid.
Do you think there might be enough smoking guns here? Nah. They are all coincidences. Nothing to see here. Please move along.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?
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(1) Yet another way to occupy the subculture of people so lacking in intellectual self-respect and political horse-sense that they would voluntarily call themselves "conspiracy theorists," thus practically announcing themselves as people to avoid, (2) with some totally confabulated bullshit scenario that plays to their reflexive hatred of city-dwelling educated persons that they think of as liberals and arty, also to their extremely narrow minds and behavioral norms, (3) providing a distraction from other criminal complexes that matter, and for which there is actual evidence, in this case including the real sex-exploitation happening on Epstein's flights, which included Trump and Clinton. Also, (4) a kind of test in understanding what actually constitutes evidence that slightly more than half of the active "voters" on RI have failed, as usual. It was probably set up as such by its originators, and they seem to understand what this mentality goes for better than I do. Clearly there are also people on this board who may as well believe professional wrestling is real.
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(1) Yet another way to occupy the subculture of people so lacking in intellectual self-respect and political horse-sense that they would voluntarily call themselves "conspiracy theorists," thus practically announcing themselves as people to avoid, (2) with some totally confabulated bullshit scenario that plays to their reflexive hatred of city-dwelling educated persons that they think of as liberals and arty, also to their extremely narrow minds and behavioral norms, (3) providing a distraction from other criminal complexes that matter, and for which there is actual evidence, in this case including the real sex-exploitation happening on Epstein's flights, which included Trump and Clinton. Also, (4) a kind of test in understanding what actually constitutes evidence that slightly more than half of the active "voters" on RI have failed, as usual. It was probably set up as such by its originators, and they seem to understand what this mentality goes for better than I do. Clearly there are also people on this board who may as well believe professional wrestling is real.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Believe me, in my life all it was was say something neutral about a topic without having no discernible position and I was called a conspiracy theorist. I only would bring up doubts and other ways to think about shit. It sorta forces you to keep your mouth shut when you see or hear about something that is obviously bullshit. Do we fucking know? Of course not. I may be good at a prank or two but I never let the mystery lie. I'm always c'mon you know I was just kidding! Well whatever.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?
You're really testing the limits of my tolerance.JackRiddler » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:28 pm wrote:]Clearly there are also people on this board who may as well believe professional wrestling is real.
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Don't impugn the Sacred Kayfabe again.
That is the purest American artform since Jazz.
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Sorry, I just couldn't resist.Wombaticus Rex » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:34 pm wrote:You're really testing the limits of my tolerance.JackRiddler » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:28 pm wrote:]Clearly there are also people on this board who may as well believe professional wrestling is real.
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Don't impugn the Sacred Kayfabe again.
That is the purest American artform since Jazz.
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Pedophile Networking In the United States: Anatomy Of A Cover-Up - Nick Bryant and Geoff Brady Live at the Brooklyn Commons (388 Atlantic Ave) and on WBAI January 2, 2017 from 4:00PM - 6:00PM
As citizen journalists dug into the many levels of what's now termed pizzagate, disturbing pedophile-related images, art work and powerful associations were revealed on a pizza restaurant owner's instagram account and archived before it was switched to private. That visual data exploded online as a culture of outrage and cybermobs put Comet Ping Pong in the cross hairs of a potential child trafficking pedophile network. For many, the evidence online was enough to research deeper, despite the chorus call and implementation of filtering so called fake news, but what will it take for an official investigation to commence?
Join Geoff Brady host of In Other News (Mondays 11PM on WBAI) and returning guest Nick Bryant, author of The Franklin Scandal : A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse and Betrayal for a two-hour live interview on stage at the Brooklyn Commons. This production will be broadcast live on air January 2, 2017 from 4-6 PM. We'll also take your questions in the second hour of the interview. The massive resources being used to censor, debunk and lie about the information that could lead to evidence of a child-trafficking and abuse network in Washington DC is very telling. Lets examine the potential evidence and take your questions with Nick Bryant who will expound on the background of pedophile networks and related cover ups going up to the highest levels drawn from his 14 years of research.
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In Other News
Mon, Jan 2, 2017 4:00 PM
LIVE INTERVIEW WITH NICK BRYANT AT BROOKLYN COMMONS
Pedophile Networking In the United States: Anatomy Of A Cover-Up - Nick Bryant and Geoff Brady Live at the Brooklyn Commons (388 Atlantic Ave) and on WBAI January 2, 2017 from 4:00PM - 6:00PM
As citizen journalists dug into the many levels of what's now termed pizzagate, disturbing pedophile-related images, art work and powerful associations were revealed on a pizza restaurant owner's instagram account and archived before it was switched to private. That visual data exploded online as a culture of outrage and cybermobs put Comet Ping Pong in the cross hairs of a potential child trafficking pedophile network. For many, the evidence online was enough to research deeper, despite the chorus call and implementation of filtering so called fake news, but what will it take for an official investigation to commence?
Join Geoff Brady host of In Other News (Mondays 11PM on WBAI) and returning guest Nick Bryant, author of The Franklin Scandal : A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse and Betrayal for a two-hour live interview on stage at the Brooklyn Commons. This production will be broadcast live on air January 2, 2017 from 4-6 PM. We'll also take your questions in the second hour of the interview. The massive resources being used to censor, debunk and lie about the information that could lead to evidence of a child-trafficking and abuse network in Washington DC is very telling. Lets examine the potential evidence and take your questions with Nick Bryant who will expound on the background of pedophile networks and related cover ups going up to the highest levels drawn from his 14 years of research.
Geoff Brady - host of In Other News - http://www.inothernewsradio.com
Nick Bryant - author and journalist - http://franklinscandal.com/
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?
^^^^ This looks highly worthwhile, hopefully one can listen online (I'll try to record it).
P.S. It seems that 'Franklin' is a solid starting point for study; there are still names to be named and stories to be told, "dots" that could further connect Franklin to D.C. & other "power centers"—including who knows? DNC/CAP? DOJ/FBI? even CPP? and so on.
P.S. It seems that 'Franklin' is a solid starting point for study; there are still names to be named and stories to be told, "dots" that could further connect Franklin to D.C. & other "power centers"—including who knows? DNC/CAP? DOJ/FBI? even CPP? and so on.
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?
I would be disappointed if Nick Bryant wanted to tie Franklin to Pizzagate but not at all surprised if the sketchy Geoff Brady does....
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Already preparing to throw Nick Bryant under the confirmation bias bus, eh? A watershed moment for RI.American Dream » 29 Dec 2016 09:14 wrote:I would be disappointed if Nick Bryant wanted to tie Franklin to Pizzagate but not at all surprised if the sketchy Geoff Brady does....
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Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Not really. I have too high a regard for Nick Bryant to even be sure that he knows what sort of copy the questionable radio host wrote about the show.