dickdecent wrote:
Doesn't anyone else feel that this case is potentially bigger than say, the Franklin case, for exposing VERY high connections - Masonic and para-political/world bank.
The almost-too-obvious in retrospect role of The Islands' [all of them] multi-functioning as the elite playground, the tax haven friend of the launderer, the filthy Masonic HQ of depravity and slaughter of innocents.
The direct connections with Islington and Dorset.. via Islington to the Welsh cover-up.. via there to Kincora, and on to Dunblane and the Belgium\Dutroux [failed] cover up... Like a fucking circle of hell for those kids.
I definitely agree that this could be a case of extraordinary magnitude, much bigger than it already seems as yet another example of widespread 'historic' sexual abuse in children's homes.
Sadly, I was wrong about Lenny Harper though - there just can't be any direct link to Kincora. He was only in the RUC for eight months, from 1979 to 1980, at least according to his official bio. Kincora broke in 1980, but the inquiry wasn't until '82. I suppose he could've had some role in it, but not much. The question remains, though - which similar cases does he remember? Does he mean he remembers working on them, or just reading about them in the papers like everyone else, and if so, why bother mentioning it?
There haven't been THAT many cases like Haut de la Garenne.
http://www.jersey.police.uk/about/deputy-chief.html
I can't find anything shady in his past at all (apart from being a cop, obviously) and no evidence of any Masonic links, other than what you mentioned with him being in both the RUC and the Met, which certainly makes him more likely to be a Mason than if he'd been, say, a dentist - but there still isn't any real proof. The fact that his wife is a Catholic, which in Northern Ireland would make her unlikely to marry a Mason (if she knew), gave me pause - though a Catholic marrying an RUC man seems pretty unlikely to me as well!
Of much more interest, at least from what I can find, is his immediate superior Graham Power.
After attending the 28th Senior Command Course in 1991
he was appointed Assistant Chief Constable of Lothian and Borders
Police. He served as Deputy Chief Constable of Lothian and Borders
1994-1998, and during this time was responsible for the policing of
a number of major events including the Commonwealth Conference.
He represents the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man on The
Association of Chief Police Officers Terrorism Committee, and is a
candidate assessor for the Home Office Police High Potential and
Strategic Leadership programmes. He was awarded the Queen’s Police
Medal for distinguished service in 1994
What is of interest here is what is
not mentioned - namely, Fettesgate. It seems it's Power who has the requisite background in cover-ups rather than Lenny.
One year after he was appointed Assistant Chief Constable of Lothian and Borders Police, headquartered at Fettes in Edinburgh (right next to Fettes College, where Tony Blair recieved whatever education he supposedly has) there was a break-in at the headquarters itself. The burglars spent three hours there looking for specific documents and spraying Animal Liberation Front solgans on the walls. They got the docs they needed, and then began leaving them as dead-drops for Edinburgh journalists. The journalists are the only people ever to have been arrested in connection with the case, which lead to a rather strange wiretapping scandal, a typically botched inquiry whose results have never been made public (the Nimmo-Smith report), while the internal police inquiry was headed by... Graham Power.
What I thought might interest you is that there are a lot of rumours as to what the documents really contained - most commonly it was said to simply list prominent people (mainly criminal lawyers) who were known to use gay prostitutes, others say there were lists of police officers, their lodges, and their Masonic rank, plus the membership of the Edinburgh Speculative Society (since made available online). Some folk claim it was the equivalent of the P2 declaration and membership roll, except relating to the so-called 'Magic Circle' of which Lord Cullen, Lord Nimmo Smith, George Robertson, etc. were all said to be part. Dunblane again....
The question of what was really in the documents has never been answered, and the inquiry is sealed like Dunblane used to be (and, since much of the released inquiry was redacted, Dunblane effectively still is). Good old Tam Dalyell questioned Fettesgate in the House of Commons.
Details are here:
http://www.unlockdemocracy.org.uk/chart ... ilton.html
There were many rumours about who might have carried out the burglary. The IRA, the Animal Liberation Front, unspecified drug dealers and even MI5 were mentioned. There was also a persistent set of rumours about a gay network of semi-criminal elements who were alleged to have good police and legal contacts. Nobody has yet been charged with the crime, though some journalists who have covered the story in Scotland have come to believe that the identity of the burglar, said to be a police informer, is known to the police, but that the police fear he might embarrass the force in court.
I can no longer find most of the articles relating to the inquiry or the burglary itself online, but I remember it being a huge deal at the time. Even the Scotsman and Sunday Herald seem to have taken down their articles on these subjects. I take it they got sued sucessfully - one of the many dangers of saying anything against police, lawyers, and judges.
The only guy who seems to say much about these things is Martin Frost, but be warned - he's a bit of a nutter.
http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/magic_circle.html
dickdecent wrote:
For CIA read MI 5/6
For HellFire/Grovers read High ranking Masons
For Bohemian Grove read Channel Islands
I thought the Hellfire Club was founded in Ireland? I could be wrong, though.
dickdecent wrote:
I'm very afraid the fix is already in with our Lenny... he knows what he has to do... APPEAR to be open and honest while steering the press away from the cover up. Talk a lot about the past, and perps who are dead, and HIDE the true extent of the cancer. After all it's pretty obvious who's who...
I agree, I don't think the truth will ever come out fully. Everything's gone quiet for now. But the truth is ALREADY out there, really. We've all seen it, at least in part.
I should say, I'm not anti-Masonic, and I don't believe the Masonic aspect is significant to the abuse itself - but I think it could be significant in the cover-up in so far as they might back each other up without looking or questioning too deeply, particularly a lower-ranking Mason being asked to "stick up" for one of higher rank (that would go for non-Masonic cops, too). There is plenty of evidence in this panorama documentary that lower level workers at Haut de la Garenne often covered for their superiors, even when they
knew that children were being abused, and they weren't even bound by blood oaths.
Jersey - Island Of Secrets:
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Wyt-1u1aY
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjF7acSc ... re=related
Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iySfTgZk ... re=related