20 members of OBL hit team killed in helicopter crash

[12#4]

Came here for de rigeur after seeing the MSM headlines on this.. much appreciated. The days leading to the 10th are increasing in high weirdness enough to keep RIers busy all day every day. Stay safe & thanks all!

[jingofever]

The story keeps changing.

As of 10:29pm on Aug 6, CNN online, the 20 were from Seal Team 6, but not from the OBL kill team.

That has been the story from the beginning.

[Nordic]

The military is looking into whether the helicopter was vulnerable to being shot down.

Idiocy. Chinooks are big and slow. They're used for transport. It's kind of ridiculous to think of them being used in combat. This story stinks.

"The Taliban are not that powerful," said Hezat, a police officer in Kabul who goes only by one name. "But if the international forces leave Afghanistan, the situation will get even worse."

PURE PROPAGANDA.

[8bitagent]

Came here for de rigeur after seeing the MSM headlines on this.. much appreciated. The days leading to the 10th are increasing in high weirdness enough to keep RIers busy all day every day. Stay safe & thanks all!

Oh we'll be sadly seeing a number of outta-left-field humdingers as the red carpel unfurls on the vessey and church grand ol oprey.

[Harvey]

Sounds to me like the seals died on May 2nd, this crash is just making it official.

[8bitagent]

No a crash did happen the other day, as locals describe it and other indications of it.

Now I saw this on another forum, so I'll just copy paste it...THIS could be the angle they will soon go with, especially given Baer's article last week that Israel is planning an attack this fall on Iran

It's hard for me to believe a typical rpg attack, which has happened every single day in Afghanistan for 32 years, could kill all 38 people on board(30 spec ops, 7 Afghan commandos, 1 interpreter)

Could THIS be the high level advanced weaponry Iran has been said to be sneaking into Afghanistan?

from july 2nd
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/02 ... ghanistan/

TEHRAN—Iran's elite military unit, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, has transferred lethal new munitions to its allies in Iraq and Afghanistan in recent months, according to senior U.S. officials, in a bid to accelerate the U.S. withdrawals from these countries.

The Revolutionary Guard has smuggled rocket-assisted exploding projectiles to its militia allies in Iraq, weapons that have already resulted in the deaths of American troops, defense officials said. They said Iranians have also given long-range rockets to the Taliban in Afghanistan, increasing the insurgents' ability to hit U.S. and other coalition positions from a safer distance.

Such arms shipments would escalate the shadow competition for influence playing out between Tehran and Washington across the Middle East and North Africa, fueled by U.S. preparations to draw down forces from two wars and the political rebellions that are sweeping the region.

From this morning on Al Jazeera English

Taliban used sophisticated weaponry(gee, I wonder who gave them that) to shoot
down SEAL chinook

[Harvey]

No a crash did happen the other day, as locals describe it and other indications of it.

Yes, there was. And bodies too. But can you tell me when they died?

[8bitagent]

No a crash did happen the other day, as locals describe it and other indications of it.

Yes, there was. And bodies too. But can you tell me when they died?

Nope. Well there were questions about the May Day raid, but wasnt there a live blogger? Then again, twitter is openly used for pentagon propaganda

[Nordic]

No a crash did happen the other day, as locals describe it and other indications of it.

Yes, there was. And bodies too. But can you tell me when they died?

and who they actually are?


i've been expecting a false flag attack on u.s. troops in iraq or afghanistan to be blamed on iran for years now. i've written about it.

now fox "news" seems to be leading this particular charge?

grab the popcorn.

[8bitagent]

Man they better not attack Iran. I know I will be on the front lines of the anti war movement big time if that shit goes down.

THIS is what Iran's youth looks like:







How is the media going to portray Iran as yet another Islamist dirtbowl?

[seemslikeadream]

[crikkett]

Man they better not attack Iran. I know I will be on the front lines of the anti war movement big time if that shit goes down.

THIS is what Iran's youth looks like:

How is the media going to portray Iran as yet another Islamist dirtbowl?

Everytime I see a gorgeous Iranian girl in a headscarf I think to myself, 'she is forced to wear that.'

I don't care how she makes it 'work'. The girl on the left can be punished if some guy arbitrarily thinks the scarf slipped too far back on the crown of her head. Amirite?

[Bruce Dazzling]

The thick plottens...

US bars media from covering return of 30 dead soldiers killed in Afganistan
Times of India
Aug 9, 2011

The Pentagon has ruled out media coverage of a ceremony marking the return of 30 US soldiers, including 22 Navy SEALs, who were killed when the helicopter they were travelling in was shot down in Afghanistan.

The return of the remains in flag draped coffins to the Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, possibly today, was denied media coverage because given the nature of the attack there were "no identifiable remains" of these servicemen, Pentagon spokesman Marine Col David Lapan told reporters during an off camera briefing.

The International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan said the CH-47 Chinook helicopter was reportedly shot down by an insurgent rocket-propelled grenade while transporting the US service members and Afghan commandos to the scene of an engagement between ISAF and insurgent forces.

As a result of the attack, the helicopter exploded in midair, killing everyone on board.

"Due to the catastrophic nature of the crash, the remains of our fallen service members will be returned to the US via Dover AFB in unidentified status, until they can be positively identified by the Armed Forces Mortuary Affairs Office at Dover," another Pentagon spokesman, Navy Capt Jane Campbell said in a statement later.

"Because the remains are unidentified at this point, next-of-kin are not in a position to grant approval for media access to the dignified transfer," he said.

Therefore, in accordance with the policy of the Department of Defence, no media coverage of the arrival and dignified transfer is permitted, Campbell said.

"Families will however, be given the opportunity to be present for the arrival," he said.

Coverage of arrival of soldiers killed in battlefield was banned for the media during the previous Bush administration.

The Obama administration permitted media coverage of the return ceremony for service members killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, subject to the approval by the next-of-kin. But this time the Department of Defence ruled against the media coverage.

Pentagon Press Association president Nancy Youssef said the organisation has protested the decision to ban media coverage and had sought to reverse the decision.

Edited to fix the link.

[MacCruiskeen]

The return of the remains in flag draped coffins to the Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, possibly today, was denied media coverage because given the nature of the attack there were "no identifiable remains" of these servicemen, Pentagon spokesman Marine Col David Lapan told reporters during an off camera briefing.

Ah, that makes perfect sense. They are returning something that either doesn't exist at all or is entirely unidentifiable. Or both.

"So you see, a McGuffin is nothing at all."

[2012 Countdown]

Just listened to these, recommended.