Well, AD, it's not missing any more, because you've added it!
Iamwhomiam wrote:I could agree with you, Nordic, but what happens when your community is suddenly told that it's no longer your community and that you will have to leave, or face brutal discrimination, if you don't?
Many folks have dual Israeli-US citizenship. So do citizens from other parts of the world have dual US-? citizenship.
Sadly, your comments seem to me to reflect a tribal, separatist form of thinking. I'm more of a why can't we all just get along, kinda guy. Pardon me if I've misunderstood you intent and please do correct me if I have.
Alice, I'd love to see a thread on the Rothschilds. I once read and interesting and fairly comprehensive history of the family. But I'm not sure such a thread would be welcome here; it's difficult for some folks to discuss this family especially, without revealing their deep prejudices. And inevitably, that will draw radicals from both sides.
But few families have had the impact upon history that this one has.
I think you have misunderstood. Ultimately, yes, we are all citizens of the earth, and the community of humans should belong to everyone.
Maybe it's because I live in Los Angeles, but Los Angeles is a perfect example of what happens when a "community" gets so big that nobody really gives a damn about it because, well, it's just too spread out. and nobody feels like they can be a part of it.
In what we call "Los Angeles" most of the truly desirable places to live are those little islands which actually are their own municipalities. Santa Monica, Culver City, Beverly Hills are a few examples. When you live there, you actually have a sense of community, and it shows. The schools are far better, there's less vandalism, the standard of living is simply higher, and there's a community spirit and a feeling of some ownership in the community.
Call that "tribal" if you want, so be it, but humans need that, since we've spent probably 99% of our evolution in tribal situations and it's where we thrive.
Again "tribal" can be good or bad, like "love" or "loyalty".
I have a bit of a different perspective in that I was born in another country, and lived there quite a bit growing up. Germany to be exact. And while I loved living in Europe and wouldn't have traded the experience for anything, and even had dual citizenship for a while when I was a kid (until my mother got rid of it because she didn't want me getting drafted into the German army), I never felt like I was a citizen of "Germany". I was always American.
(At the same time when I came back to America, I never really quite felt like I was an "American" either that much, always felt like a bit of an outsider, but I think that was because most of my fellow Americans had never been out of the country, or even out of their home states, and they seemed really strange to me that way)
Like I said, I am an idealist, and I think if everybody took care of their own communities in an educated and loving and enlightened way, we wouldn't have to worry about the world at all.
what happens when your community is suddenly told that it's no longer your community and that you will have to leave, or face brutal discrimination, if you don't?
Well obviously that's where the notion of the common community comes in, and where we recognize that we're all of the Human Community and we help each other out.
And I too would like to have a thread on the Rothschilds, because they're quite the tantalizing figures and I know almost nothing about them. It seems you can't utter their name without being called "antisemetic". So there must be something there, right?
