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Trust me. You'll like everything I ever post. You're totally taking this way too seriously as far as Alice. Chill, chief.solace » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:16 pm wrote:No. How bout YOU stop posting anything I don't like. How bout them apples?82_28 » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:08 pm wrote:Just drop it, solace.
Maybe you should read my full post, or would that ruin your trolling?solace » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:27 pm wrote:I don't recall any army checkpoints at any of the sites in Paris.
Indeed, I think that is exactly what you did, and very persuasively as far as trying to get at the motivations and purposes of suicide bombing as a war tactic, historically. There was no endorsement of suicide bombing or any other kind of bombing in what you wrote, and indeed I think there is a serious reading comprehension fail from solace (never mind 4B). This doesn't mean I endorse your view of ISIS as a hologram (a real beast borne and fed from the history of Western wars, yes, but a real beast), or as foremost a Zionist one, but your view, in turn, is clearly to abhor all that is attributed to ISIS, whatever its origins may be, and not to endorse any kind of terrorism, as some here are puzzingly implying.AlicetheKurious » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:33 pm wrote:JackRiddler asked two questions that I tried to answer as thoughtfully and thoroughly as possible. I don't think the questions were addressed to you, and my answer certainly wasn't.solace » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:08 pm wrote:Did you see her CONDEMN it? No.She offered up excuses for it. To lead up to a delusional ideological conclusion about ISIS "not existing," ie being, in reality, Israel and the West. So that would be her and all her delusional backers doing the twisting.
If there is something I wrote that you dispute, then quote it, and explain why you believe it is wrong. If you can't do that, then keep quiet. Stop the personal attacks, please, and stop derailing this thread and trying to drag it down to your level.
Given how Sorcha Faal somehow outranks everybody else in a search for his name, I didn't believe there even was an interview until I found the source link:stoneonstone » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:08 pm wrote:Me, well I'm much more curious about Mahoud Admo, the 26 year old who was staying at the Salvation Army hostel in Rue de Charonne opposite the Le Belle Equipe. His account of the shooting is disturbingly coherent...and yet, his observations, and Mr Admo, have both sunk to invisibility.
If I was a journalist over across the pond, I know who I'd be trying to get hold of, before he vanishes forever.
A few contradictory thoughts on the bits I bolded:Trembling as he recalled how the massacre unfolded, he said: “I was just in my room and had the window open on to the street below.
"I could see lots people sat outside the bar eating dinner and enjoying a drink. The place was full of people just enjoying themselves.
“At about 9.30pm a new looking black Mercedes pulled up outside with dark tinted windows at the back and the passenger and driver windows down. I could clearly see the passenger’s face as he was not wearing a hat or mask.
“As soon as the car stopped he quietly opened the door and got out in front of the restaurant.
“That is when I saw he was holding a machine gun that was resting on his hip. I could not take in what I was witnessing.
“People outside spotted the shooter approaching with his gun and tried to run inside but he shot them down in the doorway.
“Then people inside moved forward to see what was happening and he sprayed more bullets into them. I was trying to catch them on my camera phone but the gunman saw the light on my mobile and I ducked down behind the wall as they fired at my hotel. The gunman calmly reloaded his weapon several times. He then shot up at the windows in the street to make sure nobody was filming anything or taking photographs. It lasted over six minutes
“He fired lots of bullets. He was white, clean shaven and had dark hair neatly trimmed. He was dressed all in black accept for a red scarf.
“The shooter was aged about 35 and had an extremely muscular build, which you could tell from the size of his arms. He looked like a weightlifter.
“He was not wearing gloves and his face was expressionless as he walked towards the bar.
“The driver had opened his door shortly before the shooting began and stood up with his arm and a machine gun rested on the roof of the car. He stood there with his foot up in the door acting as a lookout.
“I would describe him as tall, with dark hair and also quite muscular.
“They looked like soldiers or mercenaries and carried the whole thing out like a military operation. It was clear that they were both very heavily armed and the gunman was carrying several magazines on him.
“They both then coolly sat back in the car and sped off in the direction of the Bataclan Theatre.”
Mr Admo added: “After about five minutes the police and ambulances arrived. There were about 20 bodies lying dead outside the bar and all the windows around were cracked from bullets. It was sickening. You could see where people had been shot.
“There were about eight ambulances to take injured survivors away. People were crying and screaming as they began to realise what had happened.
“Around 5am the dead bodies were laid out in the street under yellow blankets until they were taken away in ambulances.” Yesterday mourners began laying flowers and candles in tribute to the dead outside the bullet-ridden front of Le Belle Equipe.
Does it really seem so different (in its own context) from other quasi-intellectual death-and-honor glorifying periodicals?JackRiddler » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:25 pm wrote:Does this stuff in Dabiq appeal to anyone? If so, to whom? They aren't going to be like "us" here on this board, that is for sure. But do people who are attracted to this kind of thing exist?.
Are you sure about that? Is "white" an accurate translation? And in English, "white" means different things in different contexts. Even in the US. For example, "white/non-white" distinction in the northeast is often about European vs. African ancestry, while "white/non-white" on the west coast is more about western European vs. everything else (especially Latino). My point being that "white" is heavily contextual. What does "white" mean to an individual named Mahoud Admo?3. Light brown or olive-complected skin looks under street lights at night like Caucasian skin, inasmuch as anyone lighter than 50% gray would look in warm low-light conditions, regardless of hue. This guy says "white" but I just read that as "not dark-skinned compared to poorly-lit diners".
Wombaticus Rex » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:21 am wrote:And you're a fragile little thing, Jesus. Enjoy a week off.FourthBase » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:53 am wrote:Bull-fucking-shit.
Alice, specifically, is fucking evil.
C'mon fellas, you really think FB is either fragile or an idiot? (or both?!) I submit that he is neither. I would think that this would be obvious to most who are gathered here.Nordic » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:27 pm wrote:My first response to FB's outburst: the guy just isn't very smart.
To Solace: why is he/she even here. They contribute nothing. They are the very definition of a troll. And they're also pretty fucking stupid.
Alice's piece was a fantastic bit of writing and extremely informative. Anyone who sees what she wrote as a celebration or justification of suicide bombing is simply an idiot.
[Scratches head] Gee, wonder why they would want to imply such a thing!JackRiddler » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:59 pm wrote:Indeed, I think that is exactly what you did, and very persuasively as far as trying to get at the motivations and purposes of suicide bombing as a war tactic, historically. There was no endorsement of suicide bombing or any other kind of bombing in what you wrote, and indeed I think there is a serious reading comprehension fail from solace (never mind 4B). This doesn't mean I endorse your view of ISIS as a hologram (a real beast borne and fed from the history of Western wars, yes, but a real beast), or as foremost a Zionist one, but your view, in turn, is clearly to abhor all that is attributed to ISIS, whatever its origins may be, and not to endorse any kind of terrorism, as some here are puzzingly implying.AlicetheKurious » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:33 pm wrote:JackRiddler asked two questions that I tried to answer as thoughtfully and thoroughly as possible. I don't think the questions were addressed to you, and my answer certainly wasn't.solace » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:08 pm wrote:Did you see her CONDEMN it? No.She offered up excuses for it. To lead up to a delusional ideological conclusion about ISIS "not existing," ie being, in reality, Israel and the West. So that would be her and all her delusional backers doing the twisting.
If there is something I wrote that you dispute, then quote it, and explain why you believe it is wrong. If you can't do that, then keep quiet. Stop the personal attacks, please, and stop derailing this thread and trying to drag it down to your level.
That is an incredible find. No wonder it's been buried. (BTW, as far as I know, there's no such name as "Mahoud"; it must be "Mahmoud")psynapz » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:10 am wrote:Given how Sorcha Faal somehow outranks everybody else in a search for his name, I didn't believe there even was an interview until I found the source link:stoneonstone » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:08 pm wrote:Me, well I'm much more curious about Mahoud Admo, the 26 year old who was staying at the Salvation Army hostel in Rue de Charonne opposite the Le Belle Equipe. His account of the shooting is disturbingly coherent...and yet, his observations, and Mr Admo, have both sunk to invisibility.
If I was a journalist over across the pond, I know who I'd be trying to get hold of, before he vanishes forever.
http://mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paris- ... ck-6834503
Here's the entirety of the section about Admo:Trembling as he recalled how the massacre unfolded, he said: “I was just in my room and had the window open on to the street below.
"I could see lots people sat outside the bar eating dinner and enjoying a drink. The place was full of people just enjoying themselves.
“At about 9.30pm a new looking black Mercedes pulled up outside with dark tinted windows at the back and the passenger and driver windows down. I could clearly see the passenger’s face as he was not wearing a hat or mask.
“As soon as the car stopped he quietly opened the door and got out in front of the restaurant.
“That is when I saw he was holding a machine gun that was resting on his hip. I could not take in what I was witnessing.
“People outside spotted the shooter approaching with his gun and tried to run inside but he shot them down in the doorway.
“Then people inside moved forward to see what was happening and he sprayed more bullets into them. I was trying to catch them on my camera phone but the gunman saw the light on my mobile and I ducked down behind the wall as they fired at my hotel. The gunman calmly reloaded his weapon several times. He then shot up at the windows in the street to make sure nobody was filming anything or taking photographs. It lasted over six minutes
“He fired lots of bullets. He was white, clean shaven and had dark hair neatly trimmed. He was dressed all in black accept for a red scarf.
“The shooter was aged about 35 and had an extremely muscular build, which you could tell from the size of his arms. He looked like a weightlifter.
“He was not wearing gloves and his face was expressionless as he walked towards the bar.
“The driver had opened his door shortly before the shooting began and stood up with his arm and a machine gun rested on the roof of the car. He stood there with his foot up in the door acting as a lookout.
“I would describe him as tall, with dark hair and also quite muscular.
“They looked like soldiers or mercenaries and carried the whole thing out like a military operation. It was clear that they were both very heavily armed and the gunman was carrying several magazines on him.
“They both then coolly sat back in the car and sped off in the direction of the Bataclan Theatre.”
Mr Admo added: “After about five minutes the police and ambulances arrived. There were about 20 bodies lying dead outside the bar and all the windows around were cracked from bullets. It was sickening. You could see where people had been shot.
“There were about eight ambulances to take injured survivors away. People were crying and screaming as they began to realise what had happened.
“Around 5am the dead bodies were laid out in the street under yellow blankets until they were taken away in ambulances.” Yesterday mourners began laying flowers and candles in tribute to the dead outside the bullet-ridden front of Le Belle Equipe.
Actually, that's one of the lessons of history that targeted peoples and nations need to learn. All other considerations aside, suicide bombing or even guerrilla warfare as a sole or primary tactic of war against any state is by far the least effective weapon there is, and has inevitably led to defeat; that's why I emphasized its emotional parameters, and that historically, in real cases, it's been the weapon of last resort, when no other means are available to correct a vast imbalance of military power.tapitsbo » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:56 pm wrote:It's interesting however that the LTTE ultimately seem to have been losing their war whereas other groups have had great success with other less direct methods.