Yeah, been seeing that pattern a lot. Pizzagate narrative will continue to )1 take old news stories as new revelations and )2 rope every remotely related headline into "proof" that the story is about Break Wide Open and the community will be vindicated.
The arc from citizen research to 90's-Era UFOlogy is like ~4 months these days.
Still keeping an eye on Alefantis & Co just the same. That Instagram feed was real, it was his, and it was fucked up.
Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:42 pm
by Project Willow
Wombaticus Rex wrote:Yeah, been seeing that pattern a lot. Pizzagate narrative will continue to )1 take old news stories as new revelations and )2 rope every remotely related headline into "proof" that the story is about Break Wide Open and the community will be vindicated.
The arc from citizen research to 90's-Era UFOlogy is like ~4 months these days.
Still keeping an eye on Alefantis & Co just the same. That Instagram feed was real, it was his, and it was fucked up.
Agreed. "Chicken lovers" actually does has a history going back at least into the '70's. Meanwhile, every day on Youtube some historical case is relabeled Pizzagate. What a clusterfuck.
Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:45 pm
by Iamwhomiam
"The arc from citizen research to 90's-Era UFOlogy is like ~4 months these days."
Great line, yes. But I can't help but wonder if that isn't done on purpose.
The waters get muddied SO FAST now. It makes trying to seriously study these events almost impossible.
I first noticed this with Sandy Hook.
Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:39 am
by Searcher08
Wombaticus Rex » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:02 pm wrote:Yeah, been seeing that pattern a lot. Pizzagate narrative will continue to )1 take old news stories as new revelations and )2 rope every remotely related headline into "proof" that the story is about Break Wide Open and the community will be vindicated.
The arc from citizen research to 90's-Era UFOlogy is like ~4 months these days.
Still keeping an eye on Alefantis & Co just the same. That Instagram feed was real, it was his, and it was fucked up.
If the interaction with the Pizzagategear guy is legit, he threatened the guy and his girlfriend. The SMS exchange appeared to be very directly intimidating.
The pizzzagategear guy was so freaked out he filed a complaint with the Austin police department.
Alefantis is directly connected to Laura Silsby, as described here.
Great line, yes. But I can't help but wonder if that isn't done on purpose.
The waters get muddied SO FAST now. It makes trying to seriously study these events almost impossible.
I first noticed this with Sandy Hook.
The software used for "citizen research" is currently dreadful.
It lends itself to repetition, churn, gaming, shilling, copy pasta hurricanes, information flooding, information culling, throwing toys out of the pram, useless arguments.
Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:37 pm
by Cordelia
Wombaticus Rex » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:02 pm wrote:Yeah, been seeing that pattern a lot. Pizzagate narrative will continue to )1 take old news stories as new revelations and )2 rope every remotely related headline into "proof" that the story is about Break Wide Open and the community will be vindicated.
The arc from citizen research to 90's-Era UFOlogy is like ~4 months these days.
Still keeping an eye on Alefantis & Co just the same. That Instagram feed was real, it was his, and it was fucked up.
Can you remind me what that included? (Serious question because trying to find original information on Alefantis, et al. now is like trying to find a specific needle in a landfill.)
Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:24 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
Shots of actual adult pornography adjacent to lots of pics of children, many with odd captions and a few in very odd circumstances.
Wombaticus Rex wrote:Shots of actual adult pornography adjacent to lots of pics of children, many with odd captions and a few in very odd circumstances.
Searcher08 wrote:@Cordelia https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611 has the information in summary form but with links to a great deal of archived information.
Thank you both, very much.
Very disturbing...
Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:29 pm
by tapitsbo
Also: the instagram account was the #1 thing that was passed over in the discussion here and elsewhere in the "debunking" process - in favour of much patchier/less relevant data
Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:53 pm
by OP ED
(that and that several known suspects in human trafficking follow his Instagram which is weird in and of itself, none of them are MY FB friends, because I, you know, try to avoid pedophiles or suspects in trafficking or war crimes and/or whatever)
Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:51 pm
by Nordic
Yeah if you look up some of the people who liked or commented on his IG, there are some very creepy folks. Most of them have now gone "private" but I hit a few early on. (Shudder)
So even in this week when Epstein is back as a sort-of story, thanks to the labor secretary appointment, what do we see in terms of attention economy?
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What I said before still applies. "Pizzagate" is the confusionism to distract and immunize against discussion of real crimes and real issues. Sort of like "Benghazi" before it, but in this case not handed down by the Republican leadership, but generated by some Nazilites online.
JackRiddler » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:54 pm wrote:The correspondence can't be denied. Be it through irresponsibility, stupidity, ignorance, plan, whatever, the attention grabbed by the Alt-Right/Nazilite fakery of "Pizzagate" aids & abets & serves to discredit real scandals involving the same crime and personages, but with the conspicuous omission of the beast whom the Alt-Right/Nazilite works for.
Re: What is #Pizzagate?
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:01 am
by Searcher08
@JR
Your analysis of the data is based on inaccurate assumptions, reeks of mendacity and is just flat out wrong. Seriously, if you are going to attempt to pontificate using statistics, don't parade a pisspoor piece of work, and then repeat it later. Inspect the data, please? This is confirmation bias personified, with added charts - a tedious faux "analysis" at the level of rigor from Buzzfeed windbaggery. What's next? Are you going to graduate to "50 Reasons why Trump is going to gas us!" "10 Reasons Nazis are coming for yer Mom" "20 Techniques for punching Nazis without breaking your nails!"?
Epstein has had a cyclical attention profile in the US and the UK for years. Epstein's profile was actually tailing off steeply *before* Pizzagate arrived.
James Patterson had a best selling book on Epstein. Might have had something to do with it?
The repetition of your mendacious nonsense doesn't make it anything different. Perhaps a remedial course in data analysis might help? Meanwhile, in the post :
There were three "Nazi" and two "Alt" references in just a couple of paragraphs, well done on the virtue-signalling! BUT you let your self down by not having some Copy Pasta, and the lack of inclusion of [racist, misogynist, xenophobic, homophobic, transphobic] epithets was... problematic. Just calm down, think of Shia and repeat...He Will Not Divide! Us He will Not Divide Us!.
@Luther
You have been saying in this thread "Show me the victims. What are their names? Who is missing?"
A scenario to consider:
What if there are victims that "do not have names"? Because they are too young
What if there are not families "to come forward"? Because they are dead
What if children were not missed? Because their community had more essential things to do?
As a thought exercise, which route offers potentially the greatest safety / return on investment for a pedo network in the 21st century?
Abduction / abuse from within the US care system / runaways / institutions (Boy Scouts etc)
or
Children from war / disaster zones taken under top level Pol-supported rushed 'adoption programs' ?
There were over 700 orphanages in Haiti
From Wiki
An estimated three million people were affected by the quake.[10] Death toll estimates range from 100,000[6] to about 160,000
Many countries responded to appeals for humanitarian aid, pledging funds and dispatching rescue and medical teams, engineers and support personnel. Communication systems, air, land, and sea transport facilities, hospitals, and electrical networks had been damaged by the earthquake, which hampered rescue and aid efforts; confusion over who was in charge, air traffic congestion, and problems with prioritisation of flights further complicated early relief work. Port-au-Prince's morgues were overwhelmed with tens of thousands of bodies. These had to be buried in mass graves.[20]
This is the environment that Laura Silsby was operating in. Hilary Clinton took a personal interest in what she was doing.
Hillary Clinton was sent email updates on the prosecution of Laura Silsby, who was caught trafficking children in Haiti. Laura Silsby was got off the hook by Jorge Puello, who was later convicted of sex trafficking, and was wanted on charges of sex trafficking in four countries. Additional source. Izette Folger, a close friend of James Alefantis, gave a statement in support of Silsby. Folger is the daughter of Michael Maccoby, who gave an emphatic and lengthy statement of support for Comet during a contentious neighborhood commission meeting. The relevant portion of the audio file starts at 31:40. Maccoby coaches leaders of Nuestros Pequeños Hermanos, or NPH, a large organization that runs orphanages all over the world. His son, Max Maccoby, is on the Boards of Directors of an NPH orphanage called Friends of the Orphans, which is one of 760 orphanages operating in Haiti, and happens to be the orphanage from which Silsby was caught trafficking children.
There is something that stinks at the dark heart of Pizzagate, and the drive-by cognitive crop spraying attempt by Mr "OMG! the Alt Right! Nazis!!! Trump! Charts!" Hysteria isn't masking it.
One of your best lines yet, WRex.